The Belt Onion club
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@HardwareGeek Particularly since the freezer part is never more than 60cm high. In hindsight I should have gone with separate fridge/freezer units. The standard width is because these are often integrated in a kitchen cupboard, rather than being standalone units.
'American' fridges like @remi linked exist here as well, generally 90cm wide and always free-standing units.
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@PleegWat said in The Belt Onion club:
In hindsight ...
... I should have measured the available height. I measured width and depth, but I screwed up on the height. It's supposed to have something like 5 cm clearance from objects above it, but it has 0. (At least from the facade; behind the 2 cm thick facade, it has ~5 cm that is open to the sides for warm air to escape. It's not as good as if it had proper clearance, but it does have some ventilation.)
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@jinpa I'm considering how to work calling the talking clock into the solution of that.
EDIT: Misread 'USE' as 'LEAVE'. Damn block capitals.
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@jinpa said in The Belt Onion club:
They should incorporate that into one of those escape room things!
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@dcon said in The Belt Onion club:
They should incorporate that into one of those escape room things!
Escape the 70s!
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@HardwareGeek said in The Belt Onion club:
@PleegWat said in The Belt Onion club:
they're all 59 cm wide
My 90 cm wide refrigerator/freezer (with 7 cm to spare) laughs at your puny European refrigerators.
There's a "this is because Americans overeat" joke hidden in here.
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@remi said in The Belt Onion club:
Even what is called here "American fridge" (i.e. two doors side-by-side, and things like cold water/ice distributor on the front -- probably not what you want, but typically the more expensive range of things) starts at 700-800 EUR:
Funnily enough, double door fridges are often called "French Door" fridges here (unless they're "Side By Side" fridges with the fridge on side and the freezer on the other):
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@Zecc said in The Belt Onion club:
@HardwareGeek said in The Belt Onion club:
@PleegWat said in The Belt Onion club:
they're all 59 cm wide
My 90 cm wide refrigerator/freezer (with 7 cm to spare) laughs at your puny European refrigerators.
There's a "this is because Americans overeat" joke hidden in here.
You probably can't see it however because someone is standing in front of it
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@Luhmann said in The Belt Onion club:
@Zecc said in The Belt Onion club:
@HardwareGeek said in The Belt Onion club:
@PleegWat said in The Belt Onion club:
they're all 59 cm wide
My 90 cm wide refrigerator/freezer (with 7 cm to spare) laughs at your puny European refrigerators.
There's a "this is because Americans overeat" joke hidden in here.
You probably can't see it however because someone is standing in front of it
But at least it gives you a wave of cold air.
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@loopback0 And Facebook gained popularity because they gave you better control of your privacy than Myspace.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Belt Onion club:
@loopback0 And Facebook gained popularity because they gave you better control of your privacy than Myspace.
Did they? I'm not sure anyone gave a shit about privacy back then.
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@loopback0 I thought it was because you could browse and not be assaulted by shitty MIDI, or shitty MP3s made or chosen by the person whose profile you viewed.
That and MySpace didn't have FarmVille.
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@loopback0 That was always my understanding, anyway. Privacy in the sense of limiting who could see and respond to your posts, not necessarily in the sense of the platform compiling dossiers on every aspect of your life. But I could be wrong; I never gave a shit about either MySpace or Facebook.
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@Arantor said in The Belt Onion club:
I thought it was because you could browse and not be assaulted by shitty MIDI, or shitty MP3s made or chosen by the person whose profile you viewed.
That and basically everyone I knew joined including people who didn't have Myspace. It was just better "social" media than Myspace.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Belt Onion club:
Privacy in the sense of limiting who could see and respond to your posts, not necessarily in the sense of the platform compiling dossiers on every aspect of your life
I don't think a lot of that existed back then but I wouldn't say for sure either way.
I remember things like groups being more tightly controlled - i.e. you needed a university email address to join a university's group, and a corporate email address to join a company's group so I guess that did limit visibility a bit and was better than Myspace.
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@loopback0 said in The Belt Onion club:
As someone who remembers: the difference is that back then, we got all the litter before
searchingeven trying to find something, in vain. In Google today, we get it after, as part of the search results.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in The Belt Onion club:
@loopback0 said in The Belt Onion club:
As someone who remembers: the difference is that back then, we got all the litter before
searchingeven trying to find something, in vain. In Google today, we get it after, as part of the search results.Google was the first search engine whose search engine was worth anything at all. Others distinguished themselves not by the quality of the search result, but by their hand-curated directories.
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@PleegWat if only it were still true.
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@PleegWat said in The Belt Onion club:
Google was the first search engine whose search engine was worth anything at all. Others distinguished themselves not by the quality of the search result, but by their hand-curated directories.
Before Google, you either had AltaVista for automated discovery that was literally awful but might have something, or Yahoo for a hand-curated directory that was only OK for selected topics (that I never cared about).
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I missed this thread's anniversary.
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@dkf said in The Belt Onion club:
Before Google, you either had AltaVista for automated discovery that was literally awful but might have something
Ah yes. AltaVista. I remember it well. I actually saved this search I did many years ago just because I was surprised by how bizarre it was:
Warning: Offensive Language
Filed Under: WTF Were They Thinking?
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@Arantor said in The Belt Onion club:
MySpace didn't have FarmVille.
Its Zynga games were arguably more fun but definitely more evil around the monetization gills.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in The Belt Onion club:
WTF Were They Thinking?
There was a while that you'd get a "Find __________ at eBay!" ad for literally any search term. Find racist slurs at eBay! Find stage 4 pancreatic cancer at eBay! Find sadness at eBay! I don't think that was limited to AltaVista, either. eBay was where you could "buy anything", and that's how their advertising worked.
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@Gribnit And yet by today's standards I feel they would be considered tame, even quaint. How things have changed, and not for the better. The irony, of course, is where I am posting this opinion.
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@dkf said in The Belt Onion club:
AltaVista
Yeah, that was a great thingy. Because they invented the
Search Voyeur
. That is, when you clicked that link, you were shown the 10 latest requests sent to AltaVista.
Though you should not refresh too often (because back then there was something like 1 request per minute), it was eye-opening what could be search for in the world wild web...
Like e.g.girl dog sex
...
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@BernieTheBernie said in The Belt Onion club:
@dkf said in The Belt Onion club:
AltaVista
Yeah, that was a great thingy. Because they invented the
Search Voyeur
. That is, when you clicked that link, you were shown the 10 latest requests sent to AltaVista.
Though you should not refresh too often (because back then there was something like 1 request per minute), it was eye-opening what could be search for in the world wild web...
Like e.g.girl dog sex
...
These days it's called "autocomplete".
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Back then, if your PC didn't make noise, it meant it was broken.
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@Zerosquare you could tell how fast your dial-up was going to connect by the alien noises it made.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Belt Onion club:
@loopback0 And Facebook gained popularity because they gave you better control of your privacy than Myspace.
I don't think it had much to do with privacy. I remember that Facebook just seemed more interesting somehow.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in The Belt Onion club:
As someone who remembers: the difference is that back then, we got all the litter before
searchingeven trying to find something, in vain. In Google today, we get it after, as part of the search results.Yahoo was a pioneer in the notion of maximizing "stickiness", making things difficult for the visitor so that they would have to stick around longer (and thus see more ads) before finding what they were looking for. Google thought that was messed up, so stole Yahoo's lunch by making it easy to find what you were looking for.
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@Arantor said in The Belt Onion club:
@Gribnit And yet by today's standards I feel they would be considered tame, even quaint. How things have changed, and not for the better. The irony, of course, is where I am posting this opinion.
Really? Nowadays, people lose their jobs because they wrote something like that 20 years ago.
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@jinpa yes, I think FarmVille’s monetisation techniques are not nearly as aggressive or abusive as what came later. Or did we jump to a slightly different context and I didn’t notice?
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@Arantor Zynga monetization schemes were like suddenly getting boarded off the coast of Somalia when you had just debarked from Trieste.
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@Gribnit and yet, it still feels somehow like Zynga is less bad than the current round of game shysters with their microtransactions, lootboxes etc.
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@Arantor said in The Belt Onion club:
@jinpa yes, I think FarmVille’s monetisation techniques are not nearly as aggressive or abusive as what came later. Or did we jump to a slightly different context and I didn’t notice?
If someone has a pattern of nonsensical replies, I don't pay much attention to their context.
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@jinpa said in The Belt Onion club:
If someone has a pattern of nonsensical replies, I don't pay much attention to their context.
I see you've met @Gribnit‌wit.
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@Arantor said in The Belt Onion club:
@Gribnit and yet, it still feels somehow like Zynga is less bad than the current round of game shysters with their microtransactions, lootboxes etc.
Yeah they're doing a much more data-supported approach now. It looks nicer initially but/and/because it's magnitudes more insidious.
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Remember when this song was new?
That was somewhere between 100 and 4,000 years ago.
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There’s only one surfing song worth listening to.
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@Gurth Been a minute.
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YouTube video said:
Imagine being alive in the 1980s...
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