WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else
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Mine has "Microsoft WinRT Storage API" as the default for
.stl
which just throws an unhelpful error when attempting to open it.Presumably though this is because I previously removed 3D Paint and Print 3D and Windows Update has kindly not reinstalled them.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
both windows 10 and 11 have worked just fine
^
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@topspin Let me put it this way.
I have
- a home-built Windows Professional desktop that's been upgraded piece by piece since Windows 7 (7, 10, 11). Without a full wipe cycle between those installations.
- a work provided Macbook Pro (one of the last intel ones).
- a Debian linux box running on server hardware.
Previously, I had two other devices:
- a macbook air (work provided)
- a Lenovo Windows laptop.
Of those 5 machines, the order of stability and "general good behavior" goes like
- my current windows machine. I've only had hardware issues (a faulty motherboard, a CPU that wasn't seated so was overheating badly, etc). Heck, I've never had it restart on me to install updates.
- the macbook air. But it was only running "productivity" software, so not really stressing it.
- The Lenovo. It wasn't a great machine, and most of the issues came from the lenovo software doing stupid things or drivers.
- the macbook pro. Some of that may be xcode's fault, but it has issues fairly frequently that are purely software. Including the wifi management getting into a boot/sulk loop because of a custom DNS resolver.
- the debian box. It was headless and I constantly had to fight it to actually do its very simple job as a file server. Some of that may be due to Samba being stupid.
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@SirTwist said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
pops up the app selection dialog.
That wasn't the complaint. It does it on his machine too. The difference is that you're apparently not allowed to set the default program through that dialog.
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@SirTwist said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor But it doesn't fuck up the association. I tried two different Win11 PCs that never had any other 3D software installed. Creating an empty .stl file and attempting to open it pops up the app selection dialog. Suggested apps are 3D Viewer, Paint 3D, and Print 3D.
Who nose, maybe Asus fucked it up. The only 3D software I installed was OrcaSlicer (which doesn't touch associations) and Papa's Best, which I wasn't able to associate when I explicitly wanted to. And 3D Builder itself wasn't preinstalled but was pre-associated somehow, and in a way that I couldn't change it without having to give the OS a full body cavity search
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@Benjamin-Hall: say hi to from us, please.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Heck, I've never had it restart on me to install updates.
You skipped 8/8.1 though. That's when Windows was truly "Fuck you, have updates".
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Windows 11 23H2 reportedly has a nasty bug slowing down PC games
“I could add an endless list of benchmark results here but just let’s say it’s always 23H2 5-8% slower in every single one be it single or multi-thread compared to 22H2.”
also also:
December's Windows 11 KB5033375 update breaks Wi-Fi connectivityThe KB5033375 cumulative update released during the December 2023 Patch Tuesday causes Wi-Fi connectivity issues on some Windows 11 devices.
"This issue affects enterprise wireless networks (ubcsecure, ubcprivate, eduroam), but does not affect home wireless/internet usage."
New year drinking started early at MS?
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Status: Should I stop seeing notifications?
What notifications, Windows? You don't show them to me anyways. Can you prove you show them to me, and that I'm deliberately not opening them?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Can you prove you show them to me
You just posted the proof yourself as a screenshot
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Can you prove you show them to me
You just posted the proof yourself as a screenshot
That is merely proof it thinks it shows "something" to me. Whether that actually happens is what's up for delivery.
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They're a small company, but they
alwayssometimes deliver
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: Should I stop seeing notifications?
What notifications, Windows? You don't show them to me anyways. Can you prove you show them to me, and that I'm deliberately not opening them?
Yeah, I've started seeing this one too. The last time was for the program that monitors my UPS, which only shows notifications if the power goes out or the battery needs to be replaced.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Have you ever been working on your PC and Windows 11's File Explorer randomly popped up in the foreground without you launching it?
No, actually, out of all the stupid things that Windows 11 does/has done, I've never experienced that one. Just lucky I guess.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Have you ever been working on your PC and Windows 11's File Explorer randomly popped up in the foreground without you launching it?
No, actually, out of all the stupid things that Windows 11 does/has done, I've never experienced that one. Just lucky I guess.
For me, the bug manifests as all open File Explorer Windows navigating to the Desktop folder. Luckily hitting the back button takes me back.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
For me, the bug manifests as all open File Explorer Windows navigating to the Desktop folder. Luckily hitting the back button takes me back.
Yes, that has happened to me a couple of times.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Have you ever been working on your PC and Windows 11's File Explorer randomly popped up in the foreground without you launching it?
No, actually, out of all the stupid things that Windows 11 does/has done, I've never experienced that one. Just lucky I guess.
For me, the bug manifests as all open File Explorer Windows navigating to the Desktop folder. Luckily hitting the back button takes me back.
I haven't had either of those regularly enough to notice; I think I've had the window-pops-up one, just not very often. The bug I get is every open File Explorer window will eventually show the menu bar, despite having it turned off.
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@Parody you're all . As a real I am using my Norton Commander clone and thus don't experience any of this nonsense.
File handling hasn't materially changed in the last few decades, so why should the tooling change all the time....
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@robo2 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
so why should the tooling change all the time....
Because your lords and masters dint show you enough ads yet.
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@robo2 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody you're all . As a real I am using my Norton Commander clone and thus don't experience any of this nonsense.
File handling hasn't materially changed in the last few decades, so why should the tooling change all the time....Norton? Who needs that? We still have
xcopy
.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
For me, the bug manifests as all open File Explorer Windows navigating to the Desktop folder.
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I haven't had either of those regularly enough to notice; I think I've had the window-pops-up one, just not very often. The bug I get is every open File Explorer window will eventually show the menu bar, despite having it turned off.
How do they even have bugs like that? Why does Explorer randomly do shit for no apparent reason?
The answer, as usual, has to be "Microsoft ".
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
For me, the bug manifests as all open File Explorer Windows navigating to the Desktop folder. Luckily hitting the back button takes me back.
Yes, that has happened to me a couple of times.
It just happened to me again this morning but I'm running the latest Win11 with the alleged fix. I think the "Explorer Windows navigating to the Desktop folder" is a separate bug that hasn't been fixed yet.
In the past when this happened I closed and then went back into Explorer. I wasn't aware of using the backspace key -- but it works.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
We still have xcopy.
What is that newfangled stuff? Isn't
copy
good enough?
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Why does Explorer randomly do shit for no apparent reason?
Windows has always had a lot of weird random behavior. I don't remember if it was Windows 95 or 98 but installing Windows from the same CD onto the same computer would be slightly different each time. Not anything big, just weird little differences.
Windows has always been weird, and random, and inconsistent.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
For me, the bug manifests as all open File Explorer Windows navigating to the Desktop folder.
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I haven't had either of those regularly enough to notice; I think I've had the window-pops-up one, just not very often. The bug I get is every open File Explorer window will eventually show the menu bar, despite having it turned off.
How do they even have bugs like that? Why does Explorer randomly do shit for no apparent reason?
The answer, as usual, has to be "Microsoft ".I believe this one is caused by it panicking for a microsecond when one of the advertisements fail to load.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
but it works.
Only under a very loose definition of work
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
but it works.
Only under a very loose definition of work
The solution works, all the time, as far as I can tell.
But it is solving a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
But it is solving a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.
Just like Windows 11's entire existence then.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
But it is solving a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place.
Just like Windows 11's entire existence then.
Yes, exactly. Windows 11 is pretty much just Windows 10 with all the good parts removed. (And there weren't a lot of good parts to begin with).
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
On Windows the editor for the cryptic config files is easier to exit.
CTRL-X then Y
Oh, you're not using nano?
Heretic! Church of vim... Mobilise!
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@Benjamin-Hall said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Yeah. Y'all have weird systems. Or maybe I do. Because I've never had any of these problems. I've had hardware issues, but both windows 10 and 11 have worked just fine for me.
I'm on cutting edge linux kernels.
My usb ports are still wonky.
However my wifi is better after the 666 update.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
They're a small company, but they
alwayssometimes deliver
Explorer was still somehow better than finder. gnome's file manager is also terrible but also better than finder.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@robo2 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody you're all . As a real I am using my Norton Commander clone and thus don't experience any of this nonsense.
File handling hasn't materially changed in the last few decades, so why should the tooling change all the time....Norton? Who needs that? We still have
xcopy
.There was a script somewhere at my current gig that was using that to copy to a nas. Someone found some new fangled technology called robocopy and it hasn't been working consistently since. Fucking outsourced crowd.
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@DogsB that sounds like an implementation problem, I know folks who use robocopy for big shit (think hundreds of GBs at a time) and it’s just fine for them.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@DogsB that sounds like an implementation problem, I know folks who use robocopy for big shit (think hundreds of GBs at a time) and it’s just fine for them.
I think I covered that with
Fucking outsourced crowd.
*edit it's to copy < 1mb json files which is a giant wtf in itself. I'll add it to the cardigan cycle write up list.
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@DogsB said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@robo2 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody you're all . As a real I am using my Norton Commander clone and thus don't experience any of this nonsense.
File handling hasn't materially changed in the last few decades, so why should the tooling change all the time....Norton? Who needs that? We still have
xcopy
.There was a script somewhere at my current gig that was using that to copy to a nas. Someone found some new fangled technology called robocopy and it hasn't been working consistently since. Fucking outsourced crowd.
I'm going to guess they enabled the only-newer flag and didn't also add the "time resolution is smaller than expected" flag to compensate. 🤔
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@DogsB said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
They're a small company, but they
alwayssometimes deliver
Explorer was still somehow better than finder. gnome's file manager is also terrible but also better than finder.
I used to use nemo, which is a fork of gnome 2's file manager from mint. However, dogfood linux 9 doesn't carry it, so I switched to thunar which has a similar history.
Though for certain jobs (like very large directories, searching large trees, batch work, etc) nothing beats bash.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: Should I stop seeing notifications?
What notifications, Windows? You don't show them to me anyways. Can you prove you show them to me, and that I'm deliberately not opening them?
It's like Windows telling me to "Would you like to turn off notifications from Messenger? You have not interacted with them in a while." Yeah, because I tend to either just quick glance at it, or switch to the app window directly to reply. I do not need to detour through the notifications pane!
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@DogsB said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
They're a small company, but they
alwayssometimes deliver
Explorer was still somehow better than finder. gnome's file manager is also terrible but also better than finder.
I used to use nemo, which is a fork of gnome 2's file manager from mint. However, dogfood linux 9 doesn't carry it, so I switched to thunar which has a similar history.
Though for certain jobs (like very large directories, searching large trees, batch work, etc) nothing beats bash.
Finder is so awful I actually use the terminal most of the time. Double Commander isn’t too bad on linux/windows. Nothing quite beats xplorer2 on windows though.
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@DogsB said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
gnome
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Article @TimeBandit linked in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
applying the fix requires using Command Prompt as an administrator.
No it doesn't. Or at least, it shouldn't. Just fucking click it and let it elevate. Or right-click if that wasn't enough.
But really, why is this not just superseding (and replacing) the borked update and "installing" under TrustedInstaller anyways? The fuck?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
"installing" under TrustedInstaller anyways?
The TrustedInstaller is probably not trusted enough for this
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
"installing" under TrustedInstaller anyways?
The TrustedInstaller is probably not trusted enough for this
Evidently it shouldn't be
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Status: Apparently Microsoft is deprecating the wizard-style troubleshooters and instead moving to the "Get Help" app.
I'm sure it works just fine, right?
Yeah. No. I don't mind if it runs esoteric commands for me. But having a random user type shit out into a Console window... this is not it, fam.
Of course, following the instructions lead me to get a bunch of these pieces of shit.
I closed the few that actually did work.
Why the hell is this considered acceptable to Microsoft? These instructions read like a madman from SO throwing actual shit at a rubber wall.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Why the hell is this considered acceptable to Microsoft?
Are you new to Microsoft products?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Why the hell is this considered acceptable to Microsoft?
Are you new to Microsoft products?
Just because it has been observed doesn't obviate the question of why.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I closed the few that actually did work.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Is it something like
sudo apt-get cleanup group "Windows"
?
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@dkf said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I closed the few that actually did work.
No need to show when something is working as intended. That would be boring!