WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
So, against my better judgement I let myself be lured into installing windows 11 anyway.
Welcome to the club! Do whatever the robot
overlordsprotectors say and you'll be fine!
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More surprised the HW encryption in their tests doesn't impact performance.
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Article @TimeBandit linked in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Here's how to fix it.
Liars.
Also. *puts on sniveling glasses* But didn't they actually discuss this like years ago and found little to know real-world impact?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/iibwmn/bitlocker_some_tests_and_thoughts_on_bitlocker/
Unless you are read/writing Blu-Ray disks worth of data per second or have a somewhat shitty CPU that can't handle that throughput through the AES commands, who the fuck cares?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Article @TimeBandit linked in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Here's how to fix it.
Liars.
Also. *puts on sniveling glasses* But didn't they actually discuss this like years ago and found little to know real-world impact?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/iibwmn/bitlocker_some_tests_and_thoughts_on_bitlocker/
Unless you are read/writing Blu-Ray disks worth of data per second or have a somewhat shitty CPU that can't handle that throughput through the AES commands, who the fuck cares?
FORTY-FIVE PERCENTS!!!! :panic_basket:
I mean, what else are tech bloggers gonna doom over now that they havenât lost their jobs to AI yet and Microsoftâs purchase of Activision hasnât yeeted Call of Duty from all other platforms?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Also. *puts on sniveling glasses* But didn't they actually discuss this like years ago and found little to know real-world impact?
The real-world impact it's had on me is that I had to waste hours fixing my sister's computer when it stopped booting. This particular computer is a laptop that almost never leaves her desk, much less the house. Upon booting to a Windows install USB, it required us to enter the Bitlocker key to get access to the drive. She wouldn't know what it was or how to enable it, so it probably came enabled by the vendor or she unknowingly enabled it during OOBE.
Anyway, getting the Bitlocker key required us to go on a different computer and log in to the Microsoft Account attached to her laptop. You know, the Account that Windows goes out of its way to get you to not use the email/username and password to log in to Windows, so you don't have a daily reminder of the username and password needed?
It took us a couple hours of going through every email address she could remember using, doing password resets and verifications and whatnot, and then checking to see if there were any Bitlocker keys attached to the Account to find the right one. After getting access to the drive, fixing the boot process took about 30 seconds.
After we got back into Windows I left it decrypting the drive, which probably meant it had poor performance until it was finished.
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Microsoft is trying to train Excel to be less of an incel
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I specifically made a point to select only US standard and not US international keyboard during install.
Just now I found out it did not only re-add US international, but it also made it the default.
I promptly evicted it, and installed wincompose.
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Apparently someone in Microsoft's browser division is trying to save money on their annual colonoscopy.
Health insurance is really brutal these days.
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@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Microsoft does not want you to use Chrome.
I guess that's why they got rid of the original Edge and created a new version of Edge that is based on .... Chrome.
ï ș : No, No, No. Don't use that piece of shit. Use OUR piece of shit.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
ï ș : No, No, No. Don't use that piece of shit. Use OUR piece of shit.
They want you to give your data to them and not Google.
To be fair I'd probably trust Microsoft with my data more than Google too.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
ï ș : No, No, No. Don't use that piece of shit. Use OUR piece of shit.
They want you to give your data to them and not Google.
To be fair I'd probably trust Microsoft with my data more than Google too.
Except theyâre just rebadging Chrome so you know that itâs really just
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@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Apparently someone in Microsoft's browser division is trying to save money on their annual colonoscopy.
Health insurance is really brutal these days.
Interesting: if you have the Action Center sidebar disabled you don't get this poll. You'll still get some other "Use Edge, not Chrome!" begging, though.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
sidebar disabled
You can do that?!? What wizardry is that?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
sidebar disabled
You can do that?!? What wizardry is that?
They hide picking which sidebar "tabs" are shown under the icon you think is for adding stuff to the sidebar. Not keeping the sidebar showing all the time is in Settings.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
sidebar disabled
You can do that?!? What wizardry is that?
They hide picking which sidebar "tabs" are shown under the icon you think is for adding stuff to the sidebar. Not keeping the sidebar showing all the time is in Settings.
Strange. The best I ever got was a mostly-empty bar with a few non-removable icons still taking up more than it will ever be useful for.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
To be fair I'd probably trust Microsoft with my data more than Google too.
You mean, 2-127 vs 2-128?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
sidebar disabled
You can do that?!? What wizardry is that?
They hide picking which sidebar "tabs" are shown under the icon you think is for adding stuff to the sidebar. Not keeping the sidebar showing all the time is in Settings.
Strange. The best I ever got was a mostly-empty bar with a few non-removable icons still taking up more than it will ever be useful for.
Don't know what to tell you:
This is Settings/Sidebar.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
sidebar disabled
You can do that?!? What wizardry is that?
They hide picking which sidebar "tabs" are shown under the icon you think is for adding stuff to the sidebar. Not keeping the sidebar showing all the time is in Settings.
Strange. The best I ever got was a mostly-empty bar with a few non-removable icons still taking up more than it will ever be useful for.
Don't know what to tell you:
This is Settings/Sidebar.
Maybe this will help...
Edit: Well, fuck.
I guess I really need to reach harder and improve my 69 skills...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
You can do that?!? What wizardry is that?
Group policy.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
You can do that?!? What wizardry is that?
Group policy.
I've been trying to use that to get it to show me a password dialog after it automatically hides the desktop, but I'm not sure if I've succeeded yet.
What's the point of hiding the desktop at all if you're then going to go press any key to show it again.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I guess I really need to reach harder and improve my 69 skills...
Does it go away if you close the open Sidebar (Customize) panel with Always show sidebar turned off? How about if you turn off the Copilot icon? Those are the differences I see.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
How about if you
turn offthrow the Copiloticonout of the plane?
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I guess I really need to reach harder and improve my 69 skills...
Does it go away if you close the open Sidebar (Customize) panel with Always show sidebar turned off? How about if you turn off the Copilot icon? Those are the differences I see.
After a rather intense session of toggle flipping and shenanigans I managed to get it to work.
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status 23H2 has hit. The VM is updating. (Doesn't seem very big - it's downloaded pretty quickly)
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
status 23H2 has hit. The VM is updating. (Doesn't seem very big - it's downloaded pretty quickly)
Microsoft VP John Cable describes the 23H2 update as "scoped," "cumulative," and "streamlined," which are all different ways of saying that it doesn't do a whole lot other than rolling the version number over.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Microsoft VP John Cable describes the 23H2 update as "scoped," "cumulative," and "streamlined," which are all different ways of saying that it doesn't do a whole lot other than rolling the version number over and introducing new, exciting bugs.
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This move into nagware was a bit unexpected.
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@DogsB Dammit, looks like they knew better than to provide a free form text box to explain why exactly you want to close it.
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@DogsB said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
unexpected
Quick, someone grab the libya domain before it's gone!
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@topspin microsoft.ly, as in "microsoftly behaviour"?
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@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@topspin microsoft.ly, as in "microsoftly behaviour"?
Microsoft.ly behaviour is definite.ly not behaving unexpected.ly.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@topspin microsoft.ly, as in "microsoftly behaviour"?
Microsoft.ly behaviour is definite.ly not behav.ing unexpected.ly.
FTFY for 2023 domain names.
If you take over Iceland, you might be able to turn just "is" into a domain too.
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Like fucking how?
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@DogsB "Your Desktop Icons are right where I left them."
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@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@topspin microsoft.ly, as in "microsoftly behaviour"?
Microsoft.ly behaviour is definite.ly not behav.ing unexpected.ly.
FTFY for 2023 domain names.
If you take over Iceland, you might be able to turn just "is" into a domain too.
I already own a .is, incidentally. And .ing is not yet in general availability till next month.
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@dkf said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@DogsB "Your Desktop Icons are right where I left them."
I heard this in GlaDOSâs voice, should I be worried?
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@dkf said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@DogsB "Your Desktop Icons are right where I left them."
My desktop icons have never been right where I left them. Windows has always shuffled them every time the screen changes resolution (full-screen game, or video driver crash) or a monitor loses power, or whatever. The only way I've found to avoid the reshuffling is to not bother rearranging them after the last shuffle; if they're already random, it doesn't bother rerandomizing them.
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@DogsB said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Like fucking how?
where using Copilot on multi-monitor setups can cause desktop icons to move unexpectedly between screens
Ah. I don't need to worry then.
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Next time, Microsoft might ask you to explain turning off your computer.
Like Windows Server used to?
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@ixvedeusi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@DogsB Dammit, looks like they knew better than to provide a free form text box to explain why exactly you want to close it.
The Feedback Hub is .
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
My desktop icons have never been right where I left them. Windows has always shuffled them every time the screen changes resolution (full-screen game, or video driver crash) or a monitor loses power, or whatever.
Same here.
I think I read somewhere that (part of) the problem is that Windows doesn't save the layout when you just reorder icons, and instead only saves on some specific actions (logging out or similar?). And also that it saves a completely different layout for each and every screen setup so even changes that you would consider as "the same screen as before, with just this tiny irrelevant change," Windows sees them as totally different setups where icons can be anywhere.
But yeah, the bottom line is that icons move randomly around and it's easier to stop trying to worry about them and just hunt the one you want whenever you need it. Or stop using desktop icons altogether.
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Some users may still dislike how the close button is hidden behind the "Pause sync" dropdown or other "ads" across the operating system
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@remi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Or stop using desktop icons altogether.
This. 99% of the time, my desktop is covered by windows, so desktop icons aren't convenient even if they were organized.
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@HardwareGeek I've stopped a long time ago using desktop icons for applications and folders. I still use them, though, for shortcuts-with-arguments e.g.
python.exe -m jupyter notebook
orrundll32.exe sysdm.cpl,EditEnvironmentVariables
. There are other ways to do that, of course, but that one works for me.
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@remi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
rundll32.exe sysdm.cpl,EditEnvironmentVariables
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Next time, Microsoft might ask you to explain turning off your computer.
Like Windows Server used to?
...used to?
I still need to use the user-friendly gui tool regedit to set a secret entry in the registry to tell it to STFU.
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@remi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Or stop using desktop icons altogether.
This. I stopped using them nearly as soon as I stopped using web pages to decorate my desktop.
But anyways, anyone want to see this little wacky program I made, called Active Desktop?
Doesn't work on Windows 11 anymore as embedded IE is more tricky....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
embedded IE is more tricky....
:very-good-thing.png:
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@remi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Or stop using desktop icons altogether.
I haven't had any icons on my desktop since some time in the Windows 7 days.
And over the years you discover all the asshole programs who create icons on your desktop without asking first.