WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else
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@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I'd love to see a requirement to be EU-based.
Actually, I'd love to see a requirement that either different identity providers must be usable, and work equivalently for any feature, or if there is a required or preferred identity provider, it must not also provide the actual services. Basically like any other rules preventing a monopoly.
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@Bulb I guess one of the questions is 'for what?'. For some things (e.g., official government things, some larger national-ish companies), this exists -- or at least used to.
But I wouldn't necessarily want to tie down a lot of random things to a single official identity either. In a sense, the FAGMAN constellation is already a bit too centralized for my tastes.
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@cvi For Android, and for iOS.
In Czechia the government actually suffered a bout of sanity and set up a system where banks—all of them—provide identity services that you can use to log in to various government portals. Banks already verify your ID when you open an account, and already had 2-fucktor (yes, all have actual 2-fucktor here) so it was relatively simple and you can change provider if you want (by opening an account in another bank).
But with Android tied to Google account, and iOS tied to AppleID account, those two companies can cause you quite a bit of trouble by deplatforming you. And that the government should take issue with.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
[Task Manager]
- Fixed an issue impacting Task Manager reliability.
I'm subscribed to the youtube channel of the guy who wrote it. I'm sure he's not amused.
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@Bulb Sweden has (had?) the same system. It's actually called BankID. But same as with your description - originated from the banks, but is now tied into various government portals. I think you can get one without a bank these days. (I also have the 2-fucktor, but they also have a mobile app. I still need the 2-fucktor to occasionally re-something the mobile app, though.)
But for Android/iOS, I don't see how that would fix the problems. Identity is one thing (and doesn't really matter?). The problem with being deplatformed by Google/Apple is that a chunk of somewhat essential services no longer function. Tying the identity to somebody else won't really fix that, though?
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@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Bulb Haven't followed that too closely. Isn't there a pile of exceptions for exchange with the US, though? Used to be that way.
It goes like this:
The EU makes laws about protecting personal information. US companies don’t follow them. They dream up an agreement that says US is a safe haven by virtue of definition. German guy sues in front of ECJ since US laws demand that companies must break these protections, so obviously the safe haven agreements are a farce.
A few years pass, new EU-US agreements get made (same shit under different name). Same guy sues again and of course wins again. A few more years pass, everything’s been going on with business as usual, so effectively nobody cared that all of this has been illegal all along, as enforcement lacks behind many year.
Now the third iteration of the same shit has been agreed on. It’s probably going to take a few more years until this, too, will be struck down by court.The most ridiculous part is that public administration is using Windows for processing PII, with no guarantee that’s not going to end up on Microsoft’s telemetry servers.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows for processing PII, with no guarantee that’s not going to end up on Microsoft’s telemetry servers
Europeans are friends of the Americans, and try hard to make their friends' job easier. Why should they have to do a complicated hacking of the computers, like with Merkel's phone?
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@BernieTheBernie good thing that C++ teaches use
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ship is notreflexivesymmetric, or our liege would have to reciprocate.EDIT: brain-fart
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@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
But for Android/iOS, I don't see how that would fix the problems. Identity is one thing (and doesn't really matter?). The problem with being deplatformed by Google/Apple is that a chunk of somewhat essential services no longer function. Tying the identity to somebody else won't really fix that, though?
A lot of those services are other parties than Google/Apple, but because the phone always has that kind of account, tie things to that account.
Or they could, which would be much easier, just say that since they grabbed monopoly over the market section they walled off, they no longer have freedom of association and are not allowed to close accounts (that easily; there are some reasonable terms of service that would hold under the law).
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
[Task Manager]
- Fixed an issue impacting Task Manager reliability.
I'm subscribed to the youtube channel of the guy who wrote it. I'm sure he's not amused.
Task Manager or the movie?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Why does that robot remind me of a certain paperclip?
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Why does that robot remind me of a certain paperclip?
It's needy on being helpful?
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@Luhmann said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Why does that robot remind me of a certain paperclip?
It's needy on being helpful?
It’s the years of electronic inbreeding, the family resemblance is still there.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
God, this is fucking annoying in bing too. Bing is usually better for how I phrase my search queries but I gave up because the copilot crap keeps popping up.
I hope this buries Microsoft. Billions were spent on it and nothing but an inflated share price to show for it. Going to be funny when it catches up with them.
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@DogsB said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
God, this is fucking annoying in bing too. Bing is usually better for how I phrase my search queries but I gave up because the copilot crap keeps popping up.
I hope this buries Microsoft. Billions were spent on it and nothing but an inflated share price to show for it. Going to be funny when it catches up with them.
If Clippy didn't kill Office, I think you're going to be disappointed by the end result of Clippy On Steroids.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
If your mouse cursor happens to drift over to the Copilot icon on the taskbar
Ah, easy fix. I've already killed that off my taskbar.
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It's 20 fucking 24 why the fuck the fucking Windows fucking Subsystem for fucking Linux CANNOT HANDLE THE FUCKING LAPTOP GOING TO SLEEP AND THE CLOCK GOES OUT OF SYNC!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows
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@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
It's 20 fucking 24 why the fuck the fucking Windows fucking Subsystem for fucking Linux CANNOT HANDLE THE FUCKING LAPTOP GOING TO SLEEP AND THE CLOCK GOES OUT OF SYNC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe the same reason that whenever my ubuntu system does to sleep, it requires a hard boot.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
WindowsLinuxYou were off by 5 words
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
It's 20 fucking 24 why the fuck the fucking Windows fucking Subsystem for fucking Linux CANNOT HANDLE THE FUCKING LAPTOP GOING TO SLEEP AND THE CLOCK GOES OUT OF SYNC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe the same reason that whenever my ubuntu system does to sleep, it requires a hard boot.
I did some googling and turns out the root cause is an old, well known bug in Hyper-V (they implemented a kernel patch workaround that will come in the next release). I doubt it applies in your case.
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@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
It's 20 fucking 24 why the fuck the fucking Windows fucking Subsystem for fucking Linux CANNOT HANDLE THE FUCKING LAPTOP GOING TO SLEEP AND THE CLOCK GOES OUT OF SYNC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe the same reason that whenever my ubuntu system does to sleep, it requires a hard boot.
I did some googling and turns out the root cause is an old, well known bug in Hyper-V (they implemented a kernel patch workaround that will come in the next release). I doubt it applies in your case.
Since there's no Windows or Hyper-V, probably not...
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@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
It's 20 fucking 24 why the fuck the fucking Windows fucking Subsystem for fucking Linux CANNOT HANDLE THE FUCKING LAPTOP GOING TO SLEEP AND THE CLOCK GOES OUT OF SYNC!!!!!!!!!!!!
I discovered that almost my entire static port range had been magically assigned to WSL with basically only dynamic ports left. A thousand errors over the past... year, including in the system clipboard, rust-analyzer, and the userland part of the graphics driver of all things, suddenly resolved themselves when I restored it.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
It's 20 fucking 24 why the fuck the fucking Windows fucking Subsystem for fucking Linux CANNOT HANDLE THE FUCKING LAPTOP GOING TO SLEEP AND THE CLOCK GOES OUT OF SYNC!!!!!!!!!!!!
... the root cause is an old, well known bug in Hyper-V (they implemented a kernel patch workaround that will come in the next release). I doubt it applies in your case.
Since there's no Windows or Hyper-V, probably not...
The existence of WFSFL (Windows fucking Subsystem for fucking Linux) seems to imply that there is in fact Windows. Otherwise, why would you need WFSFL ?
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
It's 20 fucking 24 why the fuck the fucking Windows fucking Subsystem for fucking Linux CANNOT HANDLE THE FUCKING LAPTOP GOING TO SLEEP AND THE CLOCK GOES OUT OF SYNC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe the same reason that whenever my ubuntu system does to sleep, it requires a hard boot.
I've been sending Linuxes (Debian or Ubuntu) to sleep for quite a while and they are fine with that.
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@Bulb said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gustav said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
It's 20 fucking 24 why the fuck the fucking Windows fucking Subsystem for fucking Linux CANNOT HANDLE THE FUCKING LAPTOP GOING TO SLEEP AND THE CLOCK GOES OUT OF SYNC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe the same reason that whenever my ubuntu system does to sleep, it requires a hard boot.
I've been sending Linuxes (Debian or Ubuntu) to sleep for quite a while and they are fine with that.
Sleep as in with the fishes?
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@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
If Clippy didn't kill Office, I think you're going to be disappointed by the end result of Clippy On Steroids.
@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@DogsB said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
God, this is fucking annoying in bing too. Bing is usually better for how I phrase my search queries but I gave up because the copilot crap keeps popping up.
I hope this buries Microsoft. Billions were spent on it and nothing but an inflated share price to show for it. Going to be funny when it catches up with them.
If Clippy didn't kill Office, I think you're going to be disappointed by the end result of Clippy On Steroids.
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: Stop me if you've heard this one before...
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
: Stop 0x7F UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP me if you've heard this one before...
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
: Stop me if you've heard this one before...
It's really sad that one has to double check the reported KB number against the last time this happened a week ago to be sure someone isn't just behind.
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When I switch desktops (Win←/Win→) … so far always during a Teams call … sometimes the UI locks up. Applications still respond to some, but not all input, but the window manager (explorer) does not. And while it appears to be triggered by Teams, killing Teams does not fix it, I have to log out and log in again.
Also the animation when switching desktops, which was smooth in Win 10, is pretty slow in Win 11. But while turning desktop animations off made it more usable, it didn't fix the occasional lock-up during calls.
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@Bulb said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
When I switch desktops (Win←/Win→) … so far always during a Teams call … sometimes the UI locks up. Applications still respond to some, but not all input, but the window manager (explorer) does not. And while it appears to be triggered by Teams, killing Teams does not fix it, I have to log out and log in again.
Also the animation when switching desktops, which was smooth in Win 10, is pretty slow in Win 11. But while turning desktop animations off made it more usable, it didn't fix the occasional lock-up during calls.
I used to get that a lot, particularly for the first 10 minutes of a call. It appears that Teams does/did something that made the desktop shell the prime candidate for getting swapped out.
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I dunno if my network drives being disconnected caused explorer.exe to shit itself, but it would not surprise me. Press Explorer icon. Nothing happens. Press a few more time, nothing still happens. After about a minute it tries opening all the windows at the same time and promptly crashes.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I installed this update when it came out ~9 days ago and have not experienced any problems** so ..... Hooray?
** Other than the normal Windows 11 suckage
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
have not experienced any problems**
** Other than the normal Windows 11 suckageHow would you tell the difference?
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
How would you tell the difference?
No BSOD more than usual
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Status: The touch keyboard was unexpectedly... large. Then I went to settings and suddenly it was small again magic!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: The touch keyboard was unexpectedly... large. Then I went to settings and suddenly it was small again magic!
So you fiddled with it until it shrunk back down and then ran here to brag about it?
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@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: The touch keyboard was unexpectedly... large. Then I went to settings and suddenly it was small again magic!
So you went to position myself to fiddle
dwith it until it shrunk back down and then ran here to brag about it?I didn't touch anything!
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Of course not. You don't need to. Your Technology Distortion Field works at a distance.
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Status: TIL about "Dev Drive", which is basically just a ReFS partition that Windows treats specially, including automatically adding it to the Windows Defender exclusions list.
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@Tsaukpaetra Ah, they finally shoehorned ReFS somewhere.
And what a great idea to blanket exclude a place specifically created to contain shitloads of third-party code and binaries from malware scan.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra Ah, they finally shoehorned ReFS somewhere.
Reiser FS? Ain’t he still behind bars?
And what a great idea to blanket exclude a place specifically created to contain shitloads of third-party code and binaries from malware scan.
Seems like the absolute wrong layer of abstraction to put that shit in, too. Maybe make it so that your anti-malware stuff doesn’t slow down the system by 80%?
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra Ah, they finally shoehorned ReFS somewhere.
Reiser FS? Ain’t he still behind bars?
No, ReFS is Microsoft's "Resilient File System" which seems to be mostly useless except for a few very specific situations.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
ReFS is Microsoft's "Resilient File System" which seems to be mostly useless except for a few very specific situations.
I've been ignoring it so far... Is it actually worth the time to set that up? (My is relying on others for this info!) I've already set exclusions on my dev directories (yeahyeah, doesn't include TEMP...).
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
worth the time to set that up?
I am on an SSD so it only took a few dozen clicks of the Next button. Now, hard-linking your shit into folders and merging your shit over? Eh....
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Status: Windows. Why. Can you spot all the wrong?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: Windows. Why. Can you spot all the wrong?
Cheese buns! What vile degeneracy is this?