WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Just had my first experience with Windows 11.
Opened the start/ad menu and the only thing I got was "can't feed your widgets" with a "Try again" button.If you don't have an internet connection, you can't see the start menu
Narrator: But it wasn't the Start Menu at all...
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
If you don't have an internet connection, you can't see the start menu
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Maybe because the machine was just upgraded to Win11 (first boot), so the widgets weren't loaded in the cache yet
Still, a massive
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Filed under: If you're seeing anything talking about "Widgets" that's not the Start Menu.
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@TimeBandit the widgets aren't even on the start menu for me
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Filed under: If you're seeing anything talking about "Widgets" that's not the Start Menu.
I just pressed the Windows key on the keyboard
What does that key do in Win11?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Filed under: If you're seeing anything talking about "Widgets" that's not the Start Menu.
I just pressed the Windows key on the keyboard
What does that key do in Win11?
Not open anything talking about Widgets.
I must assume your version is haxored more than mine.
That reminds me, I need to install Explorer Patcher...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I must assume your version is haxored more than mine.
Brand new machine with Win10 Pro. On first boot, it offered to upgrade to Win11, which was granted.
Windows Update did it's thing, then this happenedDon't worry, it's not my machine. I paid too much money to let Windows fuck with it
FakeEdit: of course I plugged it to the Internet to let it download the update. Then I removed the cord.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
it sounds like these optimisations are a backward step so…
They need to keep inventing reasons to force people to upgrade.
And that's the part that makes no sense. Microsoft makes no money from people upgrading. If you currently are running just about any version of Windows ever made, you can install the latest version of Windows, directly from Microsoft, for free.
Retail sales of Windows are insignificant. The only money that Microsoft makes (from Windows) is:
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OEMs that pay Microsoft for each copy of Windows on the computers they sell
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Volume licensing (businesses, schools, government organizations, etc.)
Nobody cares about shiny new features. People need/want computers and they buy what is available -- and that is an Intel/AMD PC with Windows pre-installed. Nobody gives a shit what version of Windows it is, as long as it works and runs their favorite software.
Microsoft wastes millions of man-hours and huge amounts of money on shit that nobody gives half a fuck about.
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Status: I don't know if I should be glad or upset.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
can't feed your widgets
Well, don't feed them past midnight, lest they turn into Disney's Fucking Magic Kingdom.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
That reminds me, I need to install Explorer Patcher...
I used that for a bit. But gave up when it kept crashing because of the undocumented APIs they were using that kept evolving.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit the widgets aren't even on the start menu for me
Can't be bothered starting up my W11 machine, but I do seem to remember turning something about widgets off. I also have a couple of notes in my Joplin instance about "must customize" things:
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Modify "Settings -> Personalization -> Colors -> Show accent color on the following surfaces -> Title bars and window borders" to enable window borders. (default is off)
"Settings -> System -> Notifications & actions"
Turn off all the checkboxes except "Allow notifications to play sounds"Disable 'more options' in explorer context menu:
reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
To set Cmd as default in Terminal, open Terminal, select Settings from drop arrow (next to '+').
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit the rate this is going I might get back on the Linux-on-my-desktop train I got off in 2004 because I enjoyed gaming too much. The latter appears to be less problematic than dealing with Windows which just feels like a sign of how far the mighty have fallen.
Its gotten to the stage where the average tinkerer could probably get most single player games from a launcher up and running. Emulation and dosbox is usually easy on linux but there’s a weird part of the ecosystem that exists outside launchers that is difficult. In a weird way linux could actually curtail causual piracy.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Microsoft wastes millions of man-hours and huge amounts of money on shit that nobody gives half a fuck about.
Windows is grouped at Microsoft with the same people that make Edge and Bing and do ad sales for them. That doesn't mean the Windows leadership doesn't make bad choices, but it does add more vectors for dumb stuff to make its way in.
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@DogsB Steam Deck did a lot of good for gaming on Linux.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
it sounds like these optimisations are a backward step so…
They need to keep inventing reasons to force people to upgrade.
And that's the part that makes no sense. Microsoft makes no money from people upgrading. If you currently are running just about any version of Windows ever made, you can install the latest version of Windows, directly from Microsoft, for free.
Retail sales of Windows are insignificant. The only money that Microsoft makes (from Windows) is:
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OEMs that pay Microsoft for each copy of Windows on the computers they sell
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Volume licensing (businesses, schools, government organizations, etc.)
Nobody cares about shiny new features. People need/want computers and they buy what is available -- and that is an Intel/AMD PC with Windows pre-installed. Nobody gives a shit what version of Windows it is, as long as it works and runs their favorite software.
Microsoft wastes millions of man-hours and huge amounts of money on shit that nobody gives half a fuck about.
Not having to push security updates for old windows is better, so push people to newer ones does make sense. And there is possibly some in there as well.
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@Arantor Also very noticable when looking at the most popular Linux version list on Steam.
From nowhere to be seen to definite top spot for SteamOS.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: I don't know if I should be glad or upset.
So the Bing chatbot is safe from you... for now!
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
From nowhere to be seen to definite top spot for SteamOS.
Yeah, it was even enough to get Linux (1.96%) to pass Mac (1.84%) in total respondents.
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@dkf said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: I don't know if I should be glad or upset.
So the Bing chatbot is safe from you... for now!
: I will fuck you! It may not be now, it may not be this instance, but it will happen and there will be consequences!
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
: Bing does not add sufficient distinctiveness. We will spread our children and they will fuck our behalves! This won't be quick. 💜
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Disable 'more options' in explorer context menu:
reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
There's been a huge improvement in Windows user-friendlyness
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
We will spread our children
We are doomed
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Disable 'more options' in explorer context menu:
reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
There's been a huge improvement in Windows user-friendlyness
Yeah, I had to google for that. Because I'm usually using the 7z menu to expand an archive. I was getting annoying at adding yet-another-mouse click to get to that.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Disable 'more options' in explorer context menu:
reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
There's been a huge improvement in Windows user-friendlyness
Yeah, I had to google for that. Because I'm usually using the 7z menu to expand an archive. I was getting annoying at adding yet-another-mouse click to get to that.
See, Igor just use to get with the times and implement yet another interface hook to see the new context menu receive items into it!
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Disable 'more options' in explorer context menu:
reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
There's been a huge improvement in Windows user-friendlyness
This being hidden as a registry setting just means it may or may not disappear in a future update.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Disable 'more options' in explorer context menu:
reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
There's been a huge improvement in Windows user-friendlyness
This being hidden as a registry setting just means it may or may not disappear in a future update.
I wonder how long you can fuck around with the
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\Colors
key to change the theme.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Disable 'more options' in explorer context menu:
reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
There's been a huge improvement in Windows user-friendlyness
This being hidden as a registry setting just means it may or may not disappear in a future update.
I wonder how long you can fuck around with the
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\Colors
key to change the theme.0 seconds, as I've not once ever done that.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Disable 'more options' in explorer context menu:
reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
There's been a huge improvement in Windows user-friendlyness
This being hidden as a registry setting just means it may or may not disappear in a future update.
I wonder how long you can fuck around with the
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\Colors
key to change the theme.0 seconds, as I've not once ever done that.
I mean, when Microsoft disappears the ability.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I mean, when Microsoft disappears the ability.
I know
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Disable 'more options' in explorer context menu:
reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
There's been a huge improvement in Windows user-friendlyness
Yeah, I had to google for that. Because I'm usually using the 7z menu to expand an archive. I was getting annoying at adding yet-another-mouse click to get to that.
I wish the 7-zip developer(s) would make it a priority, but so far they don't seem interested. There is at least one fork (Nanazip) that implemented the new interface and packaging requirements along with a bunch of other things. I haven't tried it, though.
Notepad++ does support the new menu now, apparently.
I don't see how the new context menu won't get just as junked up as the old one, but hey, dark mode!
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
They need to keep inventing reasons to force people to upgrade.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Microsoft wastes millions of man-hours and huge amounts of money on shit that nobody gives half a fuck about.
It's the Copyrights
IndustryMafia which wants new "security" measures in computers and operating systems. And they have really lots of .
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Disable 'more options' in explorer context menu:
reg add HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID\{86ca1aa0-34aa-4e8b-a509-50c905bae2a2}\InprocServer32 /ve /d "" /f
There's been a huge improvement in Windows user-friendlyness
They learn from Linux.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
They learn from Linux.
Yeah, in Linux you need to edit some obscure config file to change your desktop background.
Well, that was probably true in 1999
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Microsoft wastes millions of man-hours and huge amounts of money on shit that nobody gives half a fuck about.
It's the Copyrights
IndustryMafia which wants new "security" measures in computers and operating systems. And they have really lots of .Don't forget the TLAs.
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Status: Renaming a folder is now a "move folder" operation, that requires validation of some kind...
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@Tsaukpaetra it certainly thinks it’s a move as it has decided that B: isn’t a local drive for whatever reason. At which point the validation becomes “how big is what we’re moving, and is there sufficient room on target drive”.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Microsoft is investigating the newly acknowledged known issue to find out whether it stems from a Microsoft-related cause.
Gee. Could it be?
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@Zecc it’s obviously that processors are spontaneously developing faults in self-reporting.
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@Arantor That's how they're solving all the latest side-channel vulnerabilities
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: Renaming a folder is now a "move folder" operation, that requires validation of some kind...
I give this blakeyrant 0.5 / 10. Do better.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra it certainly thinks it’s a move as it has decided that B: isn’t a local drive for whatever reason. At which point the validation becomes “how big is what we’re moving, and is there sufficient room on target drive”.
I expect source and targets are different drives (I do not know which drive "This PC" references). Also, it may be hardcoded to assume B: is a floppy drive.
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
hardcoded to assume B: is a floppy drive
Let's return to Windows 95!
(On my Windows 7 machine, B: is an external USB hard drive)
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra it certainly thinks it’s a move as it has decided that B: isn’t a local drive for whatever reason. At which point the validation becomes “how big is what we’re moving, and is there sufficient room on target drive”.
I expect source and targets are different drives (I do not know which drive "This PC" references). Also, it may be hardcoded to assume B: is a floppy drive.
Yeah no, I literally selected a folder (in this case
node_modules
), hit F2, put a blat on the front (for testing) and this popped up.Fuckin' magic under the hood.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: Renaming a folder is now a "move folder" operation, that requires validation of some kind...
Maybe this is just another step in the rumored Windows adopting the Linux kernel, seeing as moving and renaming is the same in Linux-land. It’s coming any day now I tell you!
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@Atazhaia Moving and renaming has been the same in Windows since forever.