WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else
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@Tsaukpaetra Maybe it genuinely doesn't know?
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Fun stuffs with The MS Store/Xbox app. If you happen to reinstall Windows on your computer, make sure to remove all folders on other drives where you have installed such content. Because otherwise you will not be able to install anything, the installer will just post an error and do nothing. And aborting the install will show whatever it was as installed, even though it isn't. And installing to a different drive will do nothing, just the presence of a MS Store folder on any drive from an old install will break everything.
And you can't remove the old folder either, even though it is broken an unusable. Instead, Windows will complain about you not having permission to remove it, even in safe mode. So I had to reformat the drive (which Windows did not object to) to be able to purge the old folder and make things work again. Fuck's sake.
Meanwhile, other stores like Steam and Battle.net have no problems with such a thing as a Windows reinstall and instead will just automatically add any games found as long as you point it to the directory.
My fav error was
0x00000000
which makes me question if Microsoft knows how error codes even works. The actual error code0x87e00017
made me able to find a solution, although ofc MS did not list it in their unsorted list of error codes at all and I had to resort to scouring forum posts from a Google search to find the why.
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
scouring forum posts from a Google search
Shame on you for not including the answer here. You know how Google loves us!
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
if Microsoft knows how error codes even works.
Haha. They don't.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
scouring forum posts from a Google search
Shame on you for not including the answer here. You know how Google loves us!
I did include the problem and the found solution in my post. And like most things Windows, the solution was dropping a nuke.
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I did
What?!? I see no mention of
sfc /scannow
anywhere!
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Meanwhile, other stores like Steam and Battle.net have no problems with such a thing as a Windows reinstall and instead will just automatically add any games found as long as you point it to the directory.
You can't expect a small company like Microsoft to have the talent pool needed to achieve such
performancemagic
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
And like most things Windows, the solution was dropping a nuke.
On Redmond? No? Damn!
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
My fav error was 0x00000000 which makes me question if Microsoft knows how error codes even works.
0x00000000
meansE_NO_ERROR
.
In short: everything is fine.
At least, from Microsoft's point of view.
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Instead, Windows will complain about you not having permission to remove it
Even if you take ownership of the folder?
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Instead, Windows will complain about you not having permission to remove it
Even if you take ownership of the folder?
: You think you can own your device?
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Instead, Windows will complain about you not having permission to remove it
Even if you take ownership of the folder?
Yes. Had the same problem some time ago.
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Overheard at work: : I deleted a file and now it won't connect to the internet!
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Status: finished the corporate build on this brand-new Surface Pro 9.
Oops, looks like Microsoft slipped through!
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@Tsaukpaetra make the most of it - free Game Pass!
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra make the most of it - free Game Pass!
The App was blocked.
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@TimeBandit "Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows."
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@HardwareGeek that you'll want on your machine
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@TimeBandit that was 7.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
My sources tell me CorePC will allow Microsoft to finally deliver a version of Windows that truly competes with Chromebooks in OS footprint, performance, and capabilities. A version of Windows that only runs Edge, web apps, Android apps (via Project Latte) and Office apps, designed for low-end education PCs is already in early testing internally
As long as that's just a version of it and the rest of us can avoid it like we do Chromebooks.
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@loopback0 so the base install will only need like $50GB of space? That’d be really slimmed down.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
$50GB of space
Is that metric or imperial units?
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@TimeBandit yes
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
$50GB of space
Is that metric or imperial units?
Alright, enough typos for today. I’ll just go to bed.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit "Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows."
The last half of that ad was accidentally cut off. It should have been "The last version of Windows that you'll actually want to use."
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
$50GB of space
Is that metric or imperial units?
Imperial, obviously. Metric would be €50GB.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Every time someone says they are going to "modernize" their software, it always means they are just going to make every thing 10 times worse. Especially if it is Microsoft.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@TimeBandit said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
My sources tell me CorePC will allow Microsoft to finally deliver a version of Windows that truly competes with Chromebooks in OS footprint, performance, and capabilities. A version of Windows that only runs Edge, web apps, Android apps (via Project Latte) and Office apps, designed for low-end education PCs is already in early testing internally
As long as that's just a version of it and the rest of us can avoid it like we do Chromebooks.
History tells us that they will fail to finish it on time and will hurriedly cram a poorly-chosen subset of its features into the existing codebase so they can release something to sell to businesses. (See: ME, Vista, 8, 10 [1507], 11.) This will anger a small amount of its power users enough to rail about it on Reddit and in the
ComplaintFeedback Hub whereupon they will be completely ignored.
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Adventures In Incompetent Design, Part 483
Install on a new, empty drive and let Windows partition it. Same drive and in each case using the "Pro for Workstations" version of Windows.
Why does Windows 11 using a completely different layout? Because fuck you, that's why.
With Windows 10, when I replaced my SSD with a bigger drive I just dropped an image onto the new drive and then used Disk Management to expand the Drive C: partition and use all the extra available space.
But with Windows 11, that won't work because they put some shit at the end of the drive.
Thanks Microsoft
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@Gern_Blaanston I'm not sure W10 used a consistent layout either - I've used Reflect with what I'm fairly sure was different layouts and it just figures it out either way.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Adventures In Incompetent Design, Part 483
Install on a new, empty drive and let Windows partition it. Same drive and in each case using the "Pro for Workstations" version of Windows.
Why does Windows 11 using a completely different layout? Because fuck you, that's why.
With Windows 10, when I replaced my SSD with a bigger drive I just dropped an image onto the new drive and then used Disk Management to expand the Drive C: partition and use all the extra available space.
But with Windows 11, that won't work because they put some shit at the end of the drive.
IIRC, it's at the end so that they can make the Recovery partition bigger (and the actual data partition smaller) if needed when installing the (currently) yearly major updates. If it's not at the end and there's not enough room for the new version in the existing Recovery partition it'll try to make an entire new Recovery partition at the end that's big enough and you end up with a dead partition at the front (or wherever).
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Status: Wat
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@Tsaukpaetra Excel has been having a bug on my computer where it will crash dwm.exe/d3d11.dll randomly while I'm working on a spreadsheet. If it crashes enough times I have to restart Excel due to the window getting a bit too corrupted to work with.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: Wat
Sounds like somebody opened the clipboard and failed to close it. Bad somebody, bad!
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra Excel has been having a bug on my computer where it will crash dwm.exe/d3d11.dll randomly while I'm working on a spreadsheet. If it crashes enough times I have to restart Excel due to the window getting a bit too corrupted to work with.
Oh yeah! That happens to me too! But on trivial books containing a few dozen numbers. The entire UI is frozen (though based on the mouse cursor changes it's actually responding to events, just not painting).
I eagerly await the performance and bug fix update that will surely be a benefit from this 365 thing.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I eagerly await the performance and bug fix update that will surely be a benefit from this 365 thing.
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@Tsaukpaetra Yeah, that's another bug. Tends to be noticeable because the spreadsheet area turns all white for a few seconds as it happens. What I got is a full on crash of the window manager so the screen goes black as dwm.exe restarts itself.
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
the spreadsheet area turns all white for a few seconds as it happens.
That's the standard "application not pumping the event loop" thing. What I'm experiencing is simply failing to send paints.
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@Tsaukpaetra We're finding so many bugs here. Maybe we should make an Excel spreadsheet to document them?
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra We're finding so many bugs here. Maybe we should
make an Excel spreadsheetprovision a Discourse server to document them?
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Status: The inability to move the "main" taskbar to a display other than the main display tweaks me to no end.
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@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: The inability to move the "main" taskbar to a display other than the main display tweaks me to no end.
can you do that in any other version of Windows? What is the effect being desired here?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Status: The inability to move the "main" taskbar to a display other than the main display tweaks me to no end.
can you do that in any other version of Windows? What is the effect being desired here?
Windows 10 lets you drag the taskbar wherever the hell you want. So I had that set with main (launch new applications here unless you have a remembered location otherwise) monitor as the middle monitor and then moved my main taskbar to the right monitor, with my taskbar set to show application icons on main taskbar + taskbar on the monitor where the window was open.
Windows 11 just compels me to have the main taskbar on the main display. Which isn’t that catastrophic because I’m not a barbarian who put his taskbar somewhere other than the bottom, but it’s still annoying.
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@izzion You and @blakeyrat both. He complained about the same thing the other day.
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@izzion You and @blakeyrat both. He complained about the same thing the other day.
Has anyone ever seen me and @blakeyrat in the same room?
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@izzion You and @blakeyrat both. He complained about the same thing the other day.
HE WASN'T ASKING FOR CORROBORATION
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@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows 11 just compels me to have the main taskbar on the main display.
Simple. Make the main display the middle one (and rearrange the display layout)! And then you'll find out what apps handle negative positioning numbers correctly.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows 11 just compels me to have the main taskbar on the main display.
Simple. Make the main display the middle one (and rearrange the display layout)! And then you'll find out what apps handle negative positioning numbers correctly.
Yes, because making the display layout not match the physical layout so that moving my mouse to the left monitor involves going off the right side of the right monitor is a guaranteed way to increase my productivity
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@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@izzion said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows 11 just compels me to have the main taskbar on the main display.
Simple. Make the main display the middle one (and rearrange the display layout)! And then you'll find out what apps handle negative positioning numbers correctly.
Yes, because making the display layout not match the physical layout so that moving my mouse to the left monitor involves going off the right side of the right monitor is a guaranteed way to increase my productivity
Nononono. I meant physically move the monitor W11 thinks is primary to the middle (or just swap video cables). Then use the display layout to make the logical match the physical.