WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else
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status Just forced my Win11 VM up to 22H2 since Update kept saying, 'nope, no updates available'. Typical, once installed, it had a large cumulative patch to apply (and reboot).
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@dcon What, it didn't wait until you had several applications open which don't keep all their state saved over reboots?
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon What, it didn't wait until you had several applications open which don't keep all their state saved over reboots?
Considering how many hours a day that VM is on, it never gets the chance!
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Status: Windows decided to let me have 22H2, now that my scaaaaaary printer I never used anyway has been removed. I can have 4 rows of Pinned programs in Start instead of 3! And probably some other stuff.
BRB, I'm up to reboot #3.
Edit: Looks like I finally ran out of updates.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Edit: Looks like I finally ran out of updates.
Famous last words
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@Luhmann said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Edit: Looks like I finally ran out of updates.
Famous last words
Except for death and paying taxes,
  everything in life is only for now....AVENUE Q - "For Now" - The Actors Fund Cast Reunion 2020 – 04:19
— Avenue Q
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Looks like I finally ran out of updates.
Don't get too comfortable. It's only temporary.
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@Zerosquare Yes, only a problem with current delivery chains.
Actually, updates are produced just like normal.
Looking forward to delivering it to you ... anytime soon.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Glad I don't copy multi-GB files that often.
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Status: Apparently if you run
wininit.exe
from an elevated powershell session it will kill the current one and blue screen the computer.Noice.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Apparently
You haven't done the needful? Shame on you.
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@PleegWat said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Apparently
You haven't done the needful? Shame on you.
Why do you think it was apparent? Of course I needed the donefill.
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@Tsaukpaetra I am surprised neither by the outcome nor the fact that you found this outcome experientially.
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@Tsaukpaetra why would you do that. And why would wininit do that?
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra why would you do that. And why would wininit do that?
It'd be funnier if it was actually:
- New Wininit starts.
- New Wininit is marked as a Critical system process.
- It sees another Wininit is running and quits.
- BSOD because a Critical system process exited.
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is Windows not having any sort of protection against starting a second instance of a unique critical system process. I mean, several third-party programs does and will throw an error if you try starting a second instance. And those are typically not critical!
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@Atazhaia said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
is Windows not having any sort of protection against starting a second instance of a unique critical system process. I mean, several third-party programs does and will throw an error if you try starting a second instance. And those are typically not critical!
FWIW, I went and played around with it a little. In normal Powershell or normal or elevated Command Prompt running it did nothing. Only in elevated Powershell did it BSOD. Weird.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I have resolved this annoyance with an app.
I saw this and I thought
"Hmmm ... I wonder if this, combined with Start11, could finally give me a Taskbar and Start Menu in Windows 11 that aren't broken, useless and just generally retarded."
Someday when I'm feeling less
I may actually try it out.
Although I did come across this somewhere
To move taskbar to the left side - click on the two vertical lines and then drag it to the required position. It might take some playing around with this toolbar to get it in the required position.
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@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I saw this and I thought
is up with the version number...
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I saw this and I thought
is up with the version number...
I assume the first part is the Windows build it's been tested against.
I'm sure someone somewhere has documented it.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I saw this and I thought
is up with the version number...
I assume the first part is the Windows build it's been tested against.
I'm sure someone somewhere has documented it.
Oh yeah, I see that now... (scrolling thru the releases)
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@Tsaukpaetra said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Gern_Blaanston said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I saw this and I thought
is up with the version number...
I assume the first part is the Windows build it's been tested against.
Yes.
Also
196 Releases?
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Windows is bugging me again to upgrade. I feel like this was a narrow miss on my part to escape it THIS TIME.
So, what are the upsides and downsides of Windows 11 2H22 vs, say, Windows 10 21H1 (since apparently it hasn't even seen fit to move me to 21H2?)
Is it still a shitshow and that I should continue to hold out?
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Is it still a shitshow
It's Windows so, yes
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Is it still a shitshow
No. It has now reached the stage of "clusterfuck"
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The reason I'm not just on Linux already is:
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I play games and a good number of my games aren't supported by Proton or similar yet, and may never be, while I have working setups for Windows at this point.
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I have a bunch of emulation stuff kicking around because I'm an old fart and every time I look at the Linux options they still seem inferior to the Windows ones for the targets I have.
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I have a nontrivial iTunes library including movies + TV and as I understand it, that's a clusterfuck on Linux.
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I don't know how well Photoshop works on Linux but honestly... fuck GIMP at this point, I'd rather pay my ÂŁ10/month than have to use GIMP. It's not like my uses are complicated, because they're not, but it was easier to learn PS than re-learn GIMP's UI changes after 2.8.
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@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Oh yeah, I see that now... (scrolling thru the releases)
It "just works". Haven't done anything beyond:
- r-click, unlock
- drag bar to left
edit: And then it popped up a note about 'just downloaded updates'. So I signed out/in and now all my previously pinned icons are back on the taskbar. (not taking another image for that)
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I'm amazed and horrified at the idea that a hyphen can break a ligature into two lines
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows is bugging me again to upgrade. I feel like this was a narrow miss on my part to escape it THIS TIME.
So, what are the upsides and downsides of Windows 11 2H22 vs, say, Windows 10 21H1 (since apparently it hasn't even seen fit to move me to 21H2?)
Is it still a shitshow and that I should continue to hold out?
There's generally no reason not to IMO, but maybe wait until the bug mentioned above is fixed or upgrade to W11 21H1.
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
There's generally no reason not to IMO
Did you ever use Windows?
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I don't know how well Photoshop works on Linux
Couldn’t possibly be any worse than on Windows. Failing to start at all would be a significant improvement
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@kazitor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I don't know how well Photoshop works on Linux
Couldn’t possibly be any worse than on Windows. Failing to start at all would be a significant improvement
Exceptin' it'd be running on (pretend-)Windows, on Linux, unless Things Have Changed. Worst of both wurble.
Then again maybe it's not possible to pretend any problems less sensical than real Windows problems.
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@kazitor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Failing to start at all would be a significant improvement
Adobe is way ahead of you:
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Adobe
Slogans:
- The Computer Associates of the known world.
- Texas Instruments - for software!
- Kinda like a holding company - but we change stuff too!
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Status: After the latest round of Windows Updates I now have the tabbed File Explorer. How did I possibly survive without it before?
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
After the latest round of Windows Updates
Stop baiting me! I need to fill that sandbox in the Lounge, damnit!
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@Tsaukpaetra I don’t understand how your potato computer still hasn’t finished that.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Tsaukpaetra I don’t understand how your potato computer still hasn’t finished that.
Artificial limitations, I presume.
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FWIW, Microsoft didn't provide a way to turn off Tabbed File Explorer. Once you have it you'll never be able to see the full path in the title bar again...unless the path is short enough to fit in the tab.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
FWIW, Microsoft didn't provide a way to turn off Tabbed File Explorer. Once you have it you'll never be able to see the full path in the title bar again...unless the path is short enough to fit in the tab.
Could you before?
People apparently gave up on using the title bar for that years ago. With some windows not showing anything in the title bar, others (like office) putting so much crap that doesn’t belong in there that there’s no space left to see the document/path name.
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@topspin What's in the titlebar is one of those things we don't notice until they move our cheese / remove spacebar heating.
File Explorer shows the name of the currently open directory, not the whole path. It makes sense because this way you can easily distinguish which window is which in your taskbar when it's displaying labels:
There's no reason why it couldn't have a title like
Program Files (x86) | C:\Program Files (x86)
, of course. Something like this works quite well:I only miss this when I have multiple directories with the same name under different paths. Which happens a lot, actually.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
multiple directories with the same name under different paths. Which happens a lot
This! Apparently, everyone does this except Microsoft. And certainly nobody would ever have more than one spreadsheet with the same name.
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
multiple directories with the same name under different paths. Which happens a lot
This! Apparently, everyone does this except Microsoft. And certainly nobody would ever have more than one spreadsheet with the same name.
But you can’t fix this 40 year old bug because then some 30 year old macros would break!1!
(Hey, if your Stone Age documents break when you open multiple files with the same name, how about you just don’t!)
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
(Hey, if your Stone Age documents break when you open multiple files with the same name, how about you just don’t!)
Or at least give us the option: "Fuck compatibility" (of course it would be off by default)
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@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@dcon said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
"Fuck compatibility"
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
FWIW, Microsoft didn't provide a way to turn off Tabbed File Explorer. Once you have it you'll never be able to see the full path in the title bar again...unless the path is short enough to fit in the tab.
Could you before?
Yes, and the option is still there (like it has been since Windows 95), and it still affects what gets put in the tab. The tabs have a limited width, though, even with only one per window. It makes the full path option useless.
People apparently gave up on using the title bar for that years ago. ...
I was only talking about File Explorer, not any other program.
I would prefer if programs didn't take over the title bar for controls and would (optionally) put the full path to files there, but here we are.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@HardwareGeek said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
multiple directories with the same name under different paths. Which happens a lot
This! Apparently, everyone does this except Microsoft. And certainly nobody would ever have more than one spreadsheet with the same name.
But you can’t fix this 40 year old bug because then some 30 year old macros would break!1!
(Hey, if your Stone Age documents break when you open multiple files with the same name, how about you just don’t!)
Thankfully this is confined to Excel. There's even a workaround since you can open multiple instances of it if you want. They should have fixed it ages ago, though.
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@Parody said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
FWIW, Microsoft didn't provide a way to turn off Tabbed File Explorer. Once you have it you'll never be able to see the full path in the title bar again...unless the path is short enough to fit in the tab.
You're absolutely right!
Man, I really miss that feature....