Fun with maps
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@Zecc ÂżCĂłmo?
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@BernieTheBernie said in Fun with maps:
@Bulb It's WURST to me anyway!
(In German we say "ist mir wurst" meaning "i do not care" or "it's the same")We actually have the ~same saying in Czech, “je mi to buřt”, where the word “buřt” is clearly derived from the German “wurst” (after all we were part of the Holy Roman Empire of The German Nation for about 900 years, we collected a lot of loan words from German)—except it means only specific kind of sausage.
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@boomzilla said in Fun with maps:
@Zecc ÂżCĂłmo?
The rough equivalent of "shall we meat there?" in sub-par French.
(more like "who will go there")
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@Bulb said in Fun with maps:
@BernieTheBernie I don't see any sausage. Or maybe some, if you count salami as sausage, but the ham and cured ham are clearely not sausages.
I don't think there is any salami. The three pink-speckled-with-white regions don't look like salami and are likely some sort of saucisson (I'd say rosette (from Lyon) though there could be other ones and in any case if the picture doesn't come from France it'd be hard to find).
Saucisson isn't considered as being a type of sausage (it's... saucisson!) though the etymology of both words is obviously the same and a saucisson would probably fit the definition of a sausage. Alsace is chorizo, which might be said to be a type of sausage. Languedoc is likely saucisson Ă l'ail, which would probably translate as "garlic sausage" so clearly a sausage though again in French it'd be a saucisson, not a sausage.
The other circular ones (=that could be slices of sausages) are clearly either pancetta or bacon, so no sausage.
(inb4 sausages QooC).
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@Bulb said in Fun with maps:
@BernieTheBernie I don't see any sausage. Or maybe some, if you count salami as sausage, but the ham and cured ham are clearely not sausages.
Must be a polycornichonic hamolosine projection.
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@remi said in Fun with maps:
*Saucisson( isn't considered as being a type of sausage
That probably just means that you're using a more restrictive definition of "sausage" than lots of the rest of the world.
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@dkf said in Fun with maps:
@remi said in Fun with maps:
*Saucisson( isn't considered as being a type of sausage
That probably just means that you're using a more restrictive definition of "sausage" than lots of the rest of the world.
They're not sausage, they're sparkling meat tubes you uncultured swine.
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@dkf said in Fun with maps:
@remi said in Fun with maps:
*Saucisson( isn't considered as being a type of sausage
That probably just means that you're using a more restrictive definition of "sausage" than lots of the rest of the world.
Most definitely, yes. I suspect that's because
uncultured swinesmost of the world doesn't know about Proper Food.As I alluded to in an
abbr
, in France saucisse refers mostly to relatively thin tubes (roughly 2-3 cm diameter), and bigger tubes are mostly saucissons. Although that's not a hard-and-fast rule: saucisse de Morteau is definitely a sausage and it's pretty thick, while various saucissons are thin as sausages, though they are sometimes called saucisses sèches but they are still considered as a type of saucisson.Another criterion is that saucisses are mostly cooked before eating (and eaten hot) while saucissons are mostly eaten uncooked (or cooked as part of the fabrication process, but not by the end-user) and eaten cold. Although again saucisses sèches are eaten uncooked (though again they're considered as a type of saucisson so the rule still more or less holds), and saucisson à cuire is called a saucisson (and definitely not considered as a type of sausage) but is eaten cooked (and hot).
Also some types of cylindrical processed meat are neither saucisses nor saucissons, typically pancetta. But that's probably because both saucisses and saucissons only apply to processed meat (i.e. ground), which doesn't apply to pancetta (nor to e.g. bacon). Another factor might be that you never buy those in their cylindrical form, you only ever buy (and eat) slices, where the overall shape of the charcuterie is less apparent.
Tl;dr: sausage is a weak category descriptor, use the proper name of food stuff instead!
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@remi said in Fun with maps:
use the proper name of food stuff instead!
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@Vault_Dweller as I said, "
uncultured swinesmost of the world doesn't know about Proper Food. ."
Filed under: Remi's point
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@hungrier said in Fun with maps:
@boomzilla said in Fun with maps:
Some of these countries are as cold as ice
And willing to sacrifice your love?
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@homoBalkanus said in Fun with maps:
@hungrier said in Fun with maps:
@boomzilla said in Fun with maps:
Some of these countries are as cold as ice
And willing to sacrifice your love?
I've seen it before, it happens all the time.
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@loopback0 said in Fun with maps:
Sir!
I see no pressing reason to mention the Irish here, and there may be ladies present.
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@remi said in Fun with maps:
Tl;dr: sausage is a weak category descriptor, use the proper name of food stuff instead!
Raggarballe med svängdörr.
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@remi said in Fun with maps:
@Vault_Dweller as I said, "
uncultured swinesmost of the world doesn't know about Proper Food. ."
Filed under: Remi's point
Google translate to German also says "saucisse" -> "WĂĽrstchen" (works out) but also "saucisson" -> "WĂĽrstchen" (doesn't). From what you've wrote, I'd say the same distinction maps pretty well to German, and the latter should really be "Wurst". Wiener is WĂĽrstchen, Salami is Wurst. They're clearly eaten differently.
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@topspin said in Fun with maps:
@remi said in Fun with maps:
@Vault_Dweller as I said, "
uncultured swinesmost of the world doesn't know about Proper Food. ."
Filed under: Remi's point
Google translate to German also says "saucisse" -> "WĂĽrstchen" (works out) but also "saucisson" -> "WĂĽrstchen" (doesn't). From what you've wrote, I'd say the same distinction maps pretty well to German, and the latter should really be "Wurst". Wiener is WĂĽrstchen, Salami is Wurst. They're clearly eaten differently.
I think I've heard before that google translate has trouble with distinctions which do not exist in English.
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@PleegWat yup, because everything is translated into English first before back out to the destination language.
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@PleegWat said in Fun with maps:
I think I've heard before that google translate has trouble with distinctions which do not exist in English.
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/28381/translated-by-google
@Arantor said in Fun with maps:
@PleegWat yup, because everything is translated into English first before back out to the destination language.
It’s apparently more complicated than that but I wouldn’t want to bet that this thing wasn’t trained primarily on English and that that hasn’t influenced how it deals with other languages.
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@Gurth Then it's improved, because it used to do source -> English -> destination, and definitely still mangles certain things that don't exist in English but do in both the source and destination languages.
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@Arantor I’m not convinced either that it doesn’t use English, or a lot of English-derived rules, as an interim step — see my Dutch-to-German example in the thread I linked to.
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Crikey!
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@boomzilla Be a lot funnier if they'd spelt "Lettuce" right.
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@da-Doctah If you're absolutely sure that it's a misspelling. Because licking lettuce is weird, whereas licking Lettice may not be, depending on the marital status of the speaker:
Lettice is both a given name and a surname. Notable people with the name include:
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@da-Doctah said in Fun with maps:
@boomzilla Be a lot funnier if they'd spelt "Lettuce" right.
You're thinking of tossing Lettice's salad, right?
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Fun with maps:
Crikey!
Reminds me of an old friend of mine. We were in the UK about twenty years ago, where we got to talking with some guy with (to my ears) a German accent to his English. For a reason I don’t recall, the euro was mentioned, probably because that had recently been introduced. Not long after that, my friend asks him where he’s from.
German-sounding guy: “Austria.”
My friend: “I didn’t know they have euros there?”
Me: …‽
Me: “Oostenrijk, niet Australië!”
German-sounding guy:He ended up moving to Australia almost 15 years ago. I kind of wonder if he tried paying with euros when he first got there.
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@Gurth well, Australia does get to participate in the Eurovision contest these days…
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@acrow said in Fun with maps:
@da-Doctah If you're absolutely sure that it's a misspelling. Because licking lettuce is weird, whereas licking Lettice may not be, depending on the marital status of the speaker:
Lettice is both a given name and a surname. Notable people with the name include:
I fail to see why it would make any difference that the frozen water you're licking is from Latvia or from somewhere else.
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@Arantor said in Fun with maps:
@Gurth well, Australia does get to participate in the Eurovision contest these days…
Participate yes. But in order to win, you'll have to come up with something special. Like being invaded by your neighbour.
Go New-Zealand!
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@nerd4sale the one fucking year the UK actually gets its shit together… the one fucking year that Putin invades.
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@Arantor said in Fun with maps:
@nerd4sale the one fucking year the UK actually gets its shit together… the one fucking year that Putin invades.
Did you guys get someone from Northern Ireland to sing?
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@LaoC nope, he’s from near London. I’m as surprised by this as anyone else.
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@Carnage It's missing Alaska.
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@Zecc I wouldn't say anyone's missing it, Bob...
and it's actually right there, under the PEO TV logo
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@Zecc said in Fun with maps:
@Carnage It's missing Alaska.
Alaska's there below California, just like IRL.
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@loopback0 it has a great big “12” on it, never seen that on a map of Alaska before.
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@loopback0 said in Fun with maps:
Nice try, but the map is wrong. "Geog" doesn't exist irl, within those contours there is only "Gog"...
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(NSFW) Paging @DogsB
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@loopback0 said in Fun with maps:
Which is the obligatory state that survives this projection? to search.
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@loopback0 said in Fun with maps:
@Zecc said in Fun with maps:
@Carnage It's missing Alaska.
Alaska's there below California, just like IRL.
It's amazing how many people just don't understand Great Circle navigation.
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@PleegWat said in Fun with maps:
Which is the obligatory state that survives this projection? to search.
Not Knss or Knss.
I think the closest was Uth and Kntuky.
I'm partial to Sssspp and Ow.
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