Killed by Google
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@jinpa said in Killed by Google:
But we're getting off-topic...
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@izzion said in Killed by Google:
@jinpa said in Killed by Google:
But we're getting off-topic...
I honestly thought @HardwareGeek would have been the one to kill this one. All in all, today has been full of disappointments.
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@jinpa said in Killed by Google:
@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
Well done for falling for the .
I sometimes try to distinguish between jokes where the foundation is correct and where it is not, i.e. dumb jokes. This is not appreciated by all.
I wouldn't have contested it if you had said that American English is not English at all, but an English creole. But given that the joke was about the poor English of those dumb American planks, it seemed appropriate to comment on the wording of the criticism.
But we're getting off-topic...
The fact that American English is the less polluted version is the joke - after the migration in the early 1600s, American English has stayed closer to the language that is their common root (1600s English) than British English has.
On the one hand you have the fact that it is named after the country where it “originated” but that on the other, the locals speak more of a “dialect” of it than those they mock.
As a native Brit (“Englisher”) it was as much a critique of myself as anyone else. That’s why I wrote it the way I did, and added both and .
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@DogsB said in Killed by Google:
All in all, today has been full of disappointments.
@DogsB had previously said elsewhere:
@Zecc has a lot to answer for. God bless his black little heart.
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@Zecc said in Killed by Google:
@DogsB said in Killed by Google:
All in all, today has been full of disappointments.
@DogsB had previously said elsewhere:
@Zecc has a lot to answer for. God bless his black little heart.
Stop being handsome!
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Can't we just all agree every native English speaker sucks and move on already?
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@Gustav said in Killed by Google:
Can't we just all agree every native English speaker sucks and move on already?
ESH
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@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
foreign dialect that inexplicably calls itself English but isn’t really.
But enough about the Indians.
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@DogsB said in Killed by Google:
@izzion said in Killed by Google:
@jinpa said in Killed by Google:
But we're getting off-topic...
I honestly thought @HardwareGeek would have been the one to kill this one. All in all, today has been full of disappointments.
Time zones, work, and other distractions.
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@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
is a native speaker of a foreign dialect that inexplicably calls itself English but isn’t really.
And thus I learned that you are from Newhouse (or is it New House?).
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@BernieTheBernie said in Killed by Google:
@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
is a native speaker of a foreign dialect that inexplicably calls itself English but isn’t really.
And thus I learned that you are from Newhouse (or is it New House?).
Newhouse? The only Newhouse I know is a wood a few kilometres from where the hospital I was borned in used to be.
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@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
@BernieTheBernie said in Killed by Google:
@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
is a native speaker of a foreign dialect that inexplicably calls itself English but isn’t really.
And thus I learned that you are from Newhouse (or is it New House?).
Newhouse? The only Newhouse I know is a wood a few kilometres from where the hospital I was borned in used to be.
Maybe he means Newcastle. They get a bit hard to follow when excited, or even just mildly stimulated by the picture of a cup of tea.
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@dkf said in Killed by Google:
@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
@BernieTheBernie said in Killed by Google:
@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
is a native speaker of a foreign dialect that inexplicably calls itself English but isn’t really.
And thus I learned that you are from Newhouse (or is it New House?).
Newhouse? The only Newhouse I know is a wood a few kilometres from where the hospital I was borned in used to be.
Maybe he means Newcastle. They get a bit hard to follow when excited, or even just mildly stimulated by the picture of a cup of tea.
Which Newcastle? Newcastle upon Tyne, Newcastle under Lyme, Newcastle (Shropshire) or Newcastle (County Down)?
(Yes, the last one is in Northern Ireland but that’s still part of the UK for now… Star Trek has another 8 months to change that and still be correct.)
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@Arantor Fortunately, not several at once...
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@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
The fact that American English is the less polluted version is the joke - after the migration in the early 1600s, American English has stayed closer to the language that is their common root (1600s English) than British English has.
On the one hand you have the fact that it is named after the country where it “originated” but that on the other, the locals speak more of a “dialect” of it than those they mock.
As a native Brit (“Englisher”) it was as much a critique of myself as anyone else. That’s why I wrote it the way I did, and added both and .
The same is true of the accent. The closest to the "original" (i.e. 1600s) English accent is in some of the more rural parts of the northeastern United States, where there weren't enough British soldiers to force everyone to change.
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@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
Newcastle under Lyme
Newcastle upon Tyne
Newcastle (County Down)
E_CASTLE_TOO_OLD
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@hungrier very good, the kneeling warthog salutes you indeed.
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@DogsB said in Killed by Google:
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@Zerosquare said in Killed by Google:
Killed by Google: their own phones.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/google-pixel-phones-unusable-after-january-2024-system-update/The issue is being reported by owners of numerous Pixel models, including the Google Pixel 5, 6, 6a, 7, 7a, 8, and 8 Pro, suggesting that it isn't confined to a particular hardware architecture.
Oh, whew. I've got a Pixel 2.
Google Play system update
August 1, 2021I've got a pixel 3a. Running linux.
How's that panning out? I remember being jealous about your battery life.
It's working pretty well. The number of apps is still not very impressive, but strangely it's increasing.
It's working well enough that the next phone I buy for myself is gonna be another ubuntu phone, it's viable enough for me now, and I really want to stop being googles unwilling and unpaid whore.
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@Dragnslcr said in Killed by Google:
The closest to the "original" (i.e. 1600s) English accent
There's no such thing. There never was such a thing. Or, rather, there are many original English accents and dialects. To assert that some part of the US is closest to the "original" is to miss the point: you have to say which original accent it is closest to for there were many and they only really started to converge with the increases in general mobility that came with the industrial revolution. England probably still has more different accents than the US, and with wider variation too.
OTOH, that variation means it's probably a bit easier for us to understand the other accents of English around the world. Even the Indians are merely difficult, and most of that's because they also use words differently.
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@dkf said in Killed by Google:
Indians are merely difficult
That depends on whether you are trying to communicate with them, or trying to get them to follow proper procedures and do quality work rather than exerting minimal effort to achieve a product that sort of ticks all the boxes. One of those is significantly more difficult than the other.
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@dkf said in Killed by Google:
Even the Indians are merely difficult, and most of that's because they also use words differently.
Which IME is more of a problem for them understanding us than it is us understanding them.
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@dkf said in Killed by Google:
Even the Indians are merely difficult, and most of that's because they also use words differently.
Did they axe you a doubt?
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How Google Search was "killed". A very long article, but nice to read. Enjoy!
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@Arantor said in Killed by Google:
@topspin I could see GMail changing though: I haven’t used the web interface in many years but it doesn’t show ads, right? I’m wondering if this is a softener for “actually we need to show ads or charge you for the service” because TANSTAAFL.
Funny thing, they used to show ads inline with messages in the inbox (kinda like how Yahoo does now at the moment) but it seems to have gone away...?
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@jinpa said in Killed by Google:
getting-off
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@Carnage said in Killed by Google:
being googles unwilling and unpaid whore.
So far I've been mostly unimpressed with what they show me for all the money they're supposedly making off of me.
Got anyone really innovating I can work for? I wouldn't want to influence the poor Alphabet too hard after all...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Killed by Google:
I wouldn't want to influence the poor Alphabet too hard after all...
You should definitely get hired by Alphabet so we can experience Google's service crashing
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@BernieTheBernie said in Killed by Google:
How Google Search was "killed". A very long article, but nice to read. Enjoy!
TIL: In 1999 Larry Page and Sergey Brin tried to sell Google to Excite for 1 million dollars. The deal fell apart because Excite only wanted to pay $750,000
(Alphabet/Google current market cap is $1.97 Trillion)
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Killed by Google:
I wouldn't want to influence the poor Alphabet too hard after all...
There are a number of chemicals that could be added to the Googleplex water supply that would tend to inhibit that, although none of them are entirely reliable. However, I wouldn't worry about it too much; I think your presence would also have an inhibitory effect.
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@HardwareGeek said in Killed by Google:
There are a number of chemicals that could be added to the Googleplex water supply that would tend to inhibit that, although none of them are entirely reliable. However, I wouldn't worry about it too much; I think your presence would also have an inhibitory effect.
His presence would probably just break the water supply.
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You didn't need to exercise anyway.
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@Parody Were any devices compatible with it? Every fitness and fitness-adjacent device I've seen so far has used their own app, from Garmin to a smart bathroom scale to a handful of crappy generic Chinese fitness watches, they all had their own particular piece of crapware, often with intrusive permissions
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@hungrier said in Killed by Google:
@Parody Were any devices compatible with it? Every fitness and fitness-adjacent device I've seen so far has used their own app, from Garmin to a smart bathroom scale to a handful of crappy generic Chinese fitness watches, they all had their own particular piece of crapware, often with intrusive permissions
I don't have a "connected" health sensing device, but apparently Wear OS smartwatches are compatible with it (but might not have come with the app) and Health Connect (Fit's replacement) can bring data in to Fit from other devices like Fitbits.
(I don't think this article aged well.)
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@Parody said in Killed by Google:
I don't think this article aged well.
In less than 4 months. No, it did not.
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Killed by Google: this business's account, this business's backups and if it hadn't been for this business having a complete set of backups at a different cloud provider, their entire business would have been fucked.
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Super fund
Google's misconfiguration was so bad that it left the whole area full of hazardous material that requires a long-term response from the EPA?
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@hungrier said in Killed by Google:
Super fund
Google's misconfiguration was so bad that it left the whole area full of hazardous material that requires a long-term response from the EPA?
Google's normal configuration does that.
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@HardwareGeek said in Killed by Google:
@hungrier said in Killed by Google:
Super fund
Google's misconfiguration was so bad that it left the whole area full of hazardous material that requires a long-term response from the EPA?
Google's normal configuration does that.
Yes. But in this case, "Super Fund" means something different:
UniSuper is an Australian superannuation fund that provides superannuation services to employees of Australia's higher education and research sector. The fund has over 615,000 members and A$124 billion in funds under management, as of 30 June 2023.
Apparently, "superannuation service" is the Australian term for "pension".
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As announced early this year, the imposter payment system has been shut down.
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@Parody said in Killed by Google:
As announced early this year, the imposter payment system has been shut down.
Still shocked that anyone who isn't visa, mastercard or a bank bother with p2p payments. It's going to cost a dollar to send 10 dollars after fees and paying for infrastructure has to be a tough sell.