Stadia: New Twitch Competitor
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OK, it's not (it's the name for "Project Stream") but you wouldn't know that from their ad:
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I thought Stadia was a competitor for Geforce Now?
That video which is rather vague suggests otherwise, though.
INB4: WHY NOT BOTH?
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Isn't "Stadia" the Russian secret murder police?
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@Lorne-Kates I must be
ing, what are you referring to? As a local expert on all things Russian, I don't recognise the name.
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@aitap said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@Lorne-Kates I must be
ing, what are you referring to? As a local expert on all things Russian, I don't recognise the name.They're just that secret.
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@aitap said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@Lorne-Kates I must be
ing, what are you referring to? As a local expert on all things Russian, I don't recognise the name.Stasi?
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@Zecc I had this idea, but edit distance seems a bit high to me. Never mind, then.
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Big woop. First company to capture a social network market keeps it forever as long as they don't do anything too stupid. Google has some first-hand experience with that.
Plus those streaming sites are just giant unfunny circlejerks.
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@aitap said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
edit distance
Levenshtein distance, named for Vladimir Iosifovich Levenshtein, is perhaps what you mean, Mr. All things Russian? :>
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@loopback0 said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
I thought Stadia was a competitor for Geforce Now?
Yes it is; I guess I thought Google's Project Stream and its "test our playing-games-over-streaming for a copy of Assassin's Creed Odyssey" open beta was a bit better known.
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Streaming and Cloud Computing Endanger Modding and Game Preservation
Services like Google's Stadia seem convenient, but they could completely change the past and future of video games.
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@Applied-Mediocrity I prefer Damerau-Levenshtein distance, if that's you want to know.
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@TimeBandit said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
Streaming and Cloud Computing Endanger Modding and Game Preservation
Services like Google's Stadia seem convenient, but they could completely change the past and future of video games.
They better offer a way to skip the publisher intro movies, or else...
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@Parody said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@loopback0 said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
I thought Stadia was a competitor for Geforce Now?
Yes it is; I guess I thought Google's Project Stream and its "test our playing-games-over-streaming for a copy of Assassin's Creed Odyssey" open beta was a bit better known.
I was thrown by the title and possibly
'd on the original post.Geforce Now seems to work well over a wired connection but it's iffy over WiFi. As my wired computer is also my gaming desktop, I don't use Now very often. Presumably the Google version will have the same issue.
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@loopback0 Steam in-home streaming also eats shit over (my crappy) wifi.
No matter how good Google's data center is at rendering 9000000 pixels of Assassin's Creed, once it leaves there and gets bounced around the internet, some residential ISP, and either the worthless modem/router combo you rent from them, or a router from Best Buy, it'll be unplayable.
Maybe it'll work for 4k ultra-HD text adventures
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@hungrier said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@loopback0 Steam in-home streaming also eats shit over (my crappy) wifi.
I've never actually tried that, seeing as if I was going to stream from my desktop I'd just go and sit at it instead.
@hungrier said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
No matter how good Google's data center is at rendering 9000000 pixels of Assassin's Creed, once it leaves there and gets bounced around the internet, some residential ISP, and either the worthless modem/router combo you rent from them, or a router from Best Buy, it'll be unplayable.
Geforce Now manages fine with the hundreds of miles of internet to my house and the ISP-owned router and struggles if the last 10 feet is wireless.
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@hungrier worked fine for the test version. Not great over WiFi but my home WiFi is bad (a lot of interference) but it worked great on Ethernet
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@Zecc said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@aitap said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@Lorne-Kates I must be
ing, what are you referring to? As a local expert on all things Russian, I don't recognise the name.Stasi?
I prefer Staci. (I don't know who she is; I just did a GIS for people named Staci.)
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@loopback0 said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
struggles if the last 10 feet is wireless
That really depends on how much other wireless is around; typically you'll be better off with the 5GHz bands (at a cost of reduced range). The 2.4GHz bands are really congested, especially in urban areas!
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@Zecc said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@aitap said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@Lorne-Kates I must be
ing, what are you referring to? As a local expert on all things Russian, I don't recognise the name.Stasi?
E_RUSSIA_NOT_FOUND
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@dkf said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@loopback0 said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
struggles if the last 10 feet is wireless
That really depends on how much other wireless is around; typically you'll be better off with the 5GHz bands (at a cost of reduced range). The 2.4GHz bands are really congested, especially in urban areas!
The laptop is on 5GHz but it's not particularly congested either way.
It doesn't generally have issues, just Geforce Now.
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@anonymous234 said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
Plus those streaming sites are just giant unfunny circlejerks.
If I wasn't at work, I'd post the appropriate link to that section on PornHub.
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I just noticed that Google hasn't plastered their name over Stadia's name. This seems like quite a break from tradition (though I'm sure a pendant will list plenty of other examples).
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@kazitor said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
This seems like quite a break from tradition
Maybe it's to avoid the service to be closed after a while, like so many Google branded services
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If you don't have 'game streaming service' in your buzzword bingo cards, it seems now would be a good time to see to it.
Intel Capital leads the $12m funding for Google Stadia rival, Polystream
Streaming service promises to realise "new ways of how to use the visual cloud"
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
If you don't have 'game streaming service' in your buzzword bingo cards, it seems now would be a good time to see to it.
Intel Capital leads the $12m funding for Google Stadia rival, Polystream
Streaming service promises to realise "new ways of how to use the visual cloud"
They did mention 3d apps so I'm thinking 8k 3d model rendering and editing. Maybe 3d movie development. I think there is a niche market there that could be more viable then 4K gaming at 60fps with no lag. I don't think there's enough of market to recoup 12 million in less than 10 years though. I suspect your buzzword bingo has a new card.
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Not posting in Killed by Google because I'm not sure if it's ever been alive.
A message about Stadia and our long term streaming strategy
Weâve made the difficult decision to begin winding down our Stadia streaming service.
Also, Staci.
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@Zecc Wow
We will be refunding all Stadia hardware purchases made through the Google Store, and all game and add-on content purchases made through the Stadia store.
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@hungrier yeah I saw that. What the heck prompted that?
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Those three people will be happy.
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@hungrier said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@Zecc Wow
We will be refunding all Stadia hardware purchases made through the Google Store, and all game and add-on content purchases made through the Stadia store.
There was Stadia-specific hardware?
(I am totally up to date on Stadia. Yeah.)
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@PotatoEngineer They had Stadia branded controllers, and a premium kit that included the latest Chromecast that supported Stadia. So maybe those early adopters will end up with a free fancy Chromecast
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@hungrier said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@PotatoEngineer They had Stadia branded controllers, and a premium kit that included the latest Chromecast that supported Stadia. So maybe those early adopters will end up with a free fancy Chromecast
I read that the controllers work with other systems when wired. Owners are asking Google to fix the Bluetooth functionality for use with other systems.
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@HardwareGeek Everyone's got until the end of the year.
Google Stadia celebrates shutdown with controller update, new game
The Stadia controller is getting an update with generic Bluetooth support.
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When I think about Stadia, I think "there is going to be jitter and lag." I think this because, when I use Steam's Remote Play Together, I get intermittent lag. (Which makes it real fun for twitch games.)
Does Stadia have lag, or is it all in my head? Does it actually work for typical consumer internet?
Not that I'm going to play it now. But I'm curious.
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@PotatoEngineer I tried Stadia out when Google was desperate enough to toss in a free Chromecast and controller with the one month trial. I had internet service with 300 Mbps download, so I figured it was worth trying for fun.
At first, everything seemed to be going well. I was able to beat a game that required fast and precise inputs with some struggle, though I always wondered if the difficulty was because I just wasn't good at the game or if my connection wasn't as good as I thought.
I gave up on the platform later on due to jitter and lag of the type you'll never get with a local system. I'd be playing a game normally and then the game stopped responding to my controller inputs. A few seconds later, sometimes up to 15 seconds later, the inputs would start registering but in absolutely the wrong way. It looked kind of like what you'd expect if you handed the controller over to a toddler and let them mess with it every few minutes.
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@PotatoEngineer said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
When I think about Stadia, I think "there is going to be jitter and lag." I think this because, when I use Steam's Remote Play Together, I get intermittent lag. (Which makes it real fun for twitch games.)
Does Stadia have lag, or is it all in my head? Does it actually work for typical consumer internet?
Not that I'm going to play it now. But I'm curious.
I don't know about Stadia (and it's
now anyway) but I've tried Xbox Cloud Gaming and GeForce now before and they were both fine.
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@PotatoEngineer said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
Does Stadia have lag, or is it all in my head? Does it actually work for typical consumer internet?
I was part of Google's Beta test for Stadia (called "Project Stream") where they had us play Assassin's Creed Odyssey. It had a bit of lag and occasional weirdness but overall worked fine...on my older gaming PC, with a wired controller, on a wired LAN, with high-end consumer cable Internet.
Unfortunately, I never tried it on my Windows 8 tablet somewhere with random cruddy WiFi.
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@Parody said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
@PotatoEngineer said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
Does Stadia have lag, or is it all in my head? Does it actually work for typical consumer internet?
I was part of Google's Beta test for Stadia (called "Project Stream") where they had us play Assassin's Creed Odyssey. It had a bit of lag and occasional weirdness but overall worked fine...on my older gaming PC, with a wired controller, on a wired LAN, with high-end consumer cable Internet.
That's about the conditions I play Steam's Remote Play Together in. Wired network, wired controller, ~90Mbps down/~12up connection. There's only one guy I play with, and he's just 20 miles away. About once every few minutes, I completely lose the stream for 2-5 seconds, and the screen freezes. (A bit more often/worse when there are complex particle effects happening, but it never really stops.) It's quite frustrating, but on the plus side, since I'm a better twitch gamer than my friend, it
levelsadds random lumps to the playing field. And once I've been putting up with it for long enough, I get philosophical about it instead of angry.I'm not sure whether to blame my friend's network, my network, random ISPs and networks in the middle, or Steam for the lag.
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@PotatoEngineer said in Stadia: New Twitch Competitor:
I'm not sure whether to blame my friend's network, my network, random ISPs and networks in the middle, or Steam for the lag.
Blame is not a conserved quantity. There's plenty for everybody.
no lag on Stadia.