Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
I see you like changing the rules after the activity has already started. A good practice, people surely love you for it.
Dunno how you'd see that if there's nothing to support that.
I mean, we're we talking about PowerShell 1.0 all along? Could have fooled me, because the video you keep coming back to said they were on PowerShell 5.1,which I'm assuming does not have the limitation you describe, and so you changed the rules right there.
What limitation is that?
I'm going off of what you said here:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
The original way of creating a PowerShell cmdlet was to write a C# class extending Cmdlet or PSCmdlet, which is still the way many people do it.
Original in this context I assume means 1.0 (i.e. The First) version. You said "many people do it", which indicates that this is a limitation that not all people need to worry about anymore. Because we're not talking about 1.0.
That was never a limitation. Functions have always existed in PS. But DLL-based cmdlets are more performant.
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@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
I see you like changing the rules after the activity has already started. A good practice, people surely love you for it.
Dunno how you'd see that if there's nothing to support that.
I mean, we're we talking about PowerShell 1.0 all along? Could have fooled me, because the video you keep coming back to said they were on PowerShell 5.1,which I'm assuming does not have the limitation you describe, and so you changed the rules right there.
What limitation is that?
I'm going off of what you said here:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
The original way of creating a PowerShell cmdlet was to write a C# class extending Cmdlet or PSCmdlet, which is still the way many people do it.
Original in this context I assume means 1.0 (i.e. The First) version. You said "many people do it", which indicates that this is a limitation that not all people need to worry about anymore. Because we're not talking about 1.0.
That was never a limitation. Functions have always existed in PS. But DLL-based cmdlets are more performant.
And what's the difference between this "function" (a nebulous name if I ever saw one) and a "DLL-based cmdlet" besides this supposed "performance difference"?
But that's beside the point in any case.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
I see you like changing the rules after the activity has already started. A good practice, people surely love you for it.
Dunno how you'd see that if there's nothing to support that.
I mean, we're we talking about PowerShell 1.0 all along? Could have fooled me, because the video you keep coming back to said they were on PowerShell 5.1,which I'm assuming does not have the limitation you describe, and so you changed the rules right there.
What limitation is that?
I'm going off of what you said here:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
The original way of creating a PowerShell cmdlet was to write a C# class extending Cmdlet or PSCmdlet, which is still the way many people do it.
Original in this context I assume means 1.0 (i.e. The First) version. You said "many people do it", which indicates that this is a limitation that not all people need to worry about anymore. Because we're not talking about 1.0.
That was never a limitation. Functions have always existed in PS. But DLL-based cmdlets are more performant.
And what's the difference between this "function" (a nebulous name if I ever saw one) and a "DLL-based cmdlet" besides this supposed "performance difference"?
You're not very smart, are you? A function in a script and a DLL are completely different things.
But that's beside the point in any case.
What was the point again?
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@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
What was the point again?
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@PleegWat said in The nerdy jokes thread (bonus original title mode!):
@pie_flavor Yes? I don't see where that contradicts what I wrote.
Only moronic file systems use octal for file permissions.
The truth is much more frightening.
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@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
You're not very smart, are you? A function in a script and a DLL are completely different things.
From the viewpoint of the user? Not really.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
You're not very smart, are you? A function in a script and a DLL are completely different things.
From the viewpoint of the user? Not really.
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@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
You're not very smart, are you? A function in a script and a DLL are completely different things.
From the viewpoint of the user? Not really.
And what do you call the rest of this thread?
Edit: and no, it's not moving goal posts, the entire point of the conversation is that users shouldn't have to deal with magic numbers when working with filesystems.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
You're not very smart, are you? A function in a script and a DLL are completely different things.
From the viewpoint of the user? Not really.
And what do you call the rest of this thread?
Coherent, except for the parts with you in them.
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@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
You're not very smart, are you? A function in a script and a DLL are completely different things.
From the viewpoint of the user? Not really.
And what do you call the rest of this thread?
Coherent, except for the parts with you in them.
I'm sorry, my interdimensional translation matrix must be malfunctioning again. Sanity check: does Windows update still work quickly and not crash or break things for you?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
You're not very smart, are you? A function in a script and a DLL are completely different things.
From the viewpoint of the user? Not really.
And what do you call the rest of this thread?
Coherent, except for the parts with you in them.
I'm sorry, my interdimensional translation matrix must be malfunctioning again. Sanity check: does Windows update still work quickly and not crash or break things for you?
Depends on your definition of quickly.
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@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
You're not very smart, are you? A function in a script and a DLL are completely different things.
From the viewpoint of the user? Not really.
And what do you call the rest of this thread?
Coherent, except for the parts with you in them.
I'm sorry, my interdimensional translation matrix must be malfunctioning again. Sanity check: does Windows update still work quickly and not crash or break things for you?
Depends on your definition of quickly.
It sure does!
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Wasn't there some rule suggested about 8 posts in a row with two people arguing between each other?
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@PJH said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
Wasn't there some rule suggested about 8 posts in a row with two people arguing between each other?
That it be Jeffed away? Or any of the seven other suggestions?
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@PJH said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
Wasn't there some rule suggested about 8 posts in a row with two people arguing between each other?
Banned?
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@pie_flavor read write execute. jesus, didn't dos also have something like this when you were... not born?
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@Gribnit It might of. I dunno. I wasn't born yet.
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@Gribnit said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor read write execute. jesus, didn't dos also have something like this when you were... not born?
Not really. DOS didn't have file permissions, instead it had global "attributes": Hidden, Directory, Read-only and System.
It never showed any file "attributes" in its directory lists except for "<DIR>", you had to pass a flag to the
dir
command to only show the files with that matching attribute.So because DOS was a single-user system this whole drwxr-x--- line would look like alien speak to a DOS user.
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@JBert Wasn't there an archive flag as well?
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@PleegWat You're right, though it looks like it's one of those things which gets rarely used.
In fact, only TIL what it actually does. I always thought unsetting it would permanently exclude the file from backups, but it looks like the flag gets set for each write operation to the file.
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@JBert said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
It never showed any file "attributes" in its directory lists except for "<DIR>"
It definitely didn't show files with the Hidden (or rarer System) attributes without you passing extra flags in.
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@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
It might of
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@JBert said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
In fact, only TIL what it actually does. I always thought unsetting it would permanently exclude the file from backups, but it looks like the flag gets set for each write operation to the file.
Interesting that in CP/M it worked exactly the other way around than in DOS and OS/2.
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@Jaloopa said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
It might of
Yes, that was intended to annoy someone.
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On a somewhat random note: "tal" is Swedish for "number", so "Orc-tal" would kinda translate into "Orc-number". (Albeit you'd rather spell it "Ork-tal". But that also fits, because "octal" is "oktal{a,t}".)
You may now return to discussing whatever the topic is about at this point in time.
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@cvi said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
You may now return to discussing whatever the topic is about at this point in time.
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@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@Jaloopa said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
@pie_flavor said in Orc-tal; trolling from the nerdy jokes thread:
It might of
Yes, that was intended to annoy someone.
Wasn't me, clearly...
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@cvi The premise that there was a topic was wrong to begin with.