I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this
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@e4tmyl33t Mechanics don't really matter in HotS anyway. Last hit units -> go play minigame -> win minigame -> push.
And although n0tail plays Dota and not HotS, never forget his advice:
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@Jaloopa There are other organizations that literally have creeds saying they should kill people, who you can't say were part of those groups, so...
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@JazzyJosh You... don't have to last-hit though. You just have to be around. Unless you're Nazeebo.
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@Magus said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@Jaloopa There are other organizations that literally have creeds saying they should kill people, who you can't say were part of those groups, so...
It might be that it's late in the week and I can't remember the last time my son slept through the night but I can't parse that
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@Magus I forgot for some reason.
God it's a bad game.
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@JazzyJosh The way I see it, you basically have two options in that genre: Heroes of Newerth, the unpopular but fastest game with the highest skill cap, or Heroes of the Storm, which is more casual and can balance around the most overpowered skills requiring 'quests' to make them get to that point. Very different designs, but both good... if you never play with random online people.
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@Magus I like SMITE, but not the DOTA-like mode but the Arena mode which is way better and there's no such thing as "feeding" so people aren't as dickish.
(It actually has opposite-feeding, where the team doing worse has faster hero respawns to try to even up the competition.)
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@blakeyrat That's fair. Again, the problem I have with the genre is that you have to really all play your parts, but playing with random people basically guarantees you are going to have horrible matches and lose even when it isn't your fault... And to play them for years straight, you have to learn to accept that - but most people end up constantly blaming others as a result. It's just a bad situation, and there isn't a way to fix it.
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@Magus said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
It's just a bad situation, and there isn't a way to fix it
I have a way to fix it. Don't play that shit
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@Jaloopa Yeah, that doesn't solve the problem though, because a huge amount of people still will, and throw them money.
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@Magus The only way that's a downside to me is that there's more effort put in to the types of game I don't like and therefore less into those I do like. But since I buy maybe 1 game a year, there's still plenty for me to play
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@Magus said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
It's just a bad situation, and there isn't a way to fix it.
You could just not play badly-designed games. There's lots of other games out there.
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@blakeyrat said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@Magus said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
It's just a bad situation, and there isn't a way to fix it.
You could just not play badly-designed games. There's lots of other games out there.
Some people don't agree that the correct response to "the world's a shitty place" is "well do nothing about it".
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@boomzilla Funny, I could have sworn that earlier in this thread....
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@Magus said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@blakeyrat That's fair. Again, the problem I have with the genre is that you have to really all play your parts, but playing with random people basically guarantees you are going to have horrible matches and lose even when it isn't your fault... And to play them for years straight, you have to learn to accept that - but most people end up constantly blaming others as a result. It's just a bad situation, and there isn't a way to fix it.
That's why I hate PUGging in WoW for dungeons as well.
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Once upon a time I used to play on a MUD that had a good solution to imbalance: every time any player cast a spell of a certain element, it would lower the power of that element by a tiny amount and raise the power of its opposite element. That way, you couldn't just find an overpowered spell and keep using it.
I wonder how much work it would be to apply similar principles to MOBAs, to deal with balance issues by dynamically rebalancing them based on the way they're used in actual gameplay?
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@Magus said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
Heroes of Newerth
Thinking Emoji
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@JazzyJosh said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@e4tmyl33t said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@Groaner said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
The only MOBA I can tolerate is Heroes of the Storm, and even that is pushing it.
I'll echo this sentiment.
People unironically play Heroes of the Storm?
I'd much rather do that instead of memorizing thousands of item builds, memorizing which ingredients make which items, memorizing their respective costs, all while making sure to last-hit everything, keeping sentries up at all times, watching the other lanes and then, if there's any time or mental bandwidth left, ACTUALLY PLAYING MY CHARACTER.
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@Groaner said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@JazzyJosh said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@e4tmyl33t said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@Groaner said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
The only MOBA I can tolerate is Heroes of the Storm, and even that is pushing it.
I'll echo this sentiment.
People unironically play Heroes of the Storm?
I'd much rather do that instead of memorizing thousands of item builds, memorizing which ingredients make which items, memorizing their respective costs, all while making sure to last-hit everything, keeping sentries up at all times, watching the other lanes and then, if there's any time or mental bandwidth left, ACTUALLY PLAYING MY CHARACTER.
Alternatively you could just be bad at the game like me.
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@Polygeekery said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@boomzilla said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@dkf said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@boomzilla said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
Careful or you risk a punch.
Fruit punch? Rum punch?
Never drink the punch.
But he said it was the only way I could get to heaven.
That's not punch, way too salty.
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@topspin said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@Polygeekery said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@boomzilla said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@dkf said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@boomzilla said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
Careful or you risk a punch.
Fruit punch? Rum punch?
Never drink the punch.
But he said it was the only way I could get to heaven.
That's not punch, way too salty.
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@pie_flavor said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@Lorne-Kates I feel like you had a point in the beginning, and then didn't look where you were going and accidentally dropped it down a storm drain.
I think his last sentence had a point, too. But in between, he got so lost he took a detour through Swampland.
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@Polygeekery I see. I was going more with the "child molestation" joke. And, well, drinking you-know-what.
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My pastor said we need to wear nikes in time for the comet
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@topspin said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@Polygeekery I see. I was going more with the "child molestation" joke. And, well, drinking you-know-what.
It was definitely funny but I also realized that you might not have actually got the joke I was making so I helped you out. :)
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@Magus said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
That's a mighty wide brush you're using.
Your a goomy-glade support. Got it. fuck off.
@Groaner said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
Sargon
You watch AND cite Sargon. Got it. Fuck off.
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@Lorne-Kates said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
You watch AND cite Sargon. Got it. Fuck off.
Is this one of those James Damore/Jordan Peterson deals where people assume he's an evil misogynist racist based on what they think he said (or what other people have reported him saying) instead of listening to what he's actually said? Based on your immediate, closed-minded dismissal, I'm going to go with that.
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@Lorne-Kates said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
You watch AND cite Sargon. Got it. Fuck off.
What's wrong with Sargon?
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@Groaner said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@Lorne-Kates said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
You watch AND cite Sargon. Got it. Fuck off.
Is this one of those James Damore/Jordan Peterson deals where people assume he's an evil misogynist racist based on what they think he said (or what other people have reported him saying) instead of listening to what he's actually said? Based on your immediate, closed-minded dismissal, I'm going to go with that.
Hmm...lets see....
Lorne-Kates said in...
Yep.
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@Lorne-Kates said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
You watch AND cite Sargon. Got it. Fuck off.
What's wrong with Sargon?
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e_: I really hope Lorne's response contains the word 'Nazi' just so we can all shout at him.
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@pie_flavor said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
What's wrong with Sargon?
Who is Sargon in the first place? He sounds like an ancient Mesopotamian king with a magnificent oiled beard.
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@pie_flavor said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
I really hope Lorne's response contains the word 'Nazi' just so we can all shout at him.
What is the definition of this word?
ja'arkemnatsydo'oborgu'e
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@ben_lubar I don't know, but I bet I know who would.
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@dkf A YouTuber best known for politics and laughing at idiots. I most recently linked a video of his in the Article 13 thread where he interviews the Scotland MEP.
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@pie_flavor said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
YouTuber best known for politics
Sounds like I wouldn't like him.
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@dkf He's the more humorous side instead of informative.
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@pie_flavor said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
YouTuber
Sounds like I wouldn't like him
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@ben_lubar said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@pie_flavor said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
I really hope Lorne's response contains the word 'Nazi' just so we can all shout at him.
What is the definition of this word?
ja'arkemnatsydo'oborgu'e
Ben, I think the cat got on the keyboard again.
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@ben_lubar said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
ja'arkemnatsydo'oborgu'e
j1 is the leader "natsy" of some German people g1 in Germany g2.
No idea what "natsy" might be. Typo for "nasty"?
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@boomzilla said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@ben_lubar said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@pie_flavor said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
I really hope Lorne's response contains the word 'Nazi' just so we can all shout at him.
What is the definition of this word?
ja'arkemnatsydo'oborgu'e
Ben, I think the cat got on the keyboard again.
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@TwelveBaud said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@ben_lubar said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
ja'arkemnatsydo'oborgu'e
j1 is the leader "natsy" of some German people g1 in Germany g2.
No idea what "natsy" might be. Typo for "nasty"?
Nitpick: the name is
nats
because names in lojban must end in a consonant. They
is pronounced like a schwa ("uhh").
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@ben_lubar Sounds really universal, I can totally see the Sallys and Antonios of the world using it
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@pie_flavor said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@ben_lubar Sounds really universal, I can totally see the Sallys and Antonios of the world using it
Speaking Lojban is the sign of a True Nerd, as it's probably the most useless skill ever invented.
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@topspin And no nerd has ever been named "Antonio!" If you're named Antonio, you are required by law to open a pizzeria.
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@TwelveBaud said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@ben_lubar said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
ja'arkemnatsydo'oborgu'e
j1 is the leader "natsy" of some German people g1 in Germany g2.
No idea what "natsy" might be. Typo for "nasty"?
Wait, Lojban contains a backdoor to insert English literals into Lojban words? Doesn't it defeat the whole purpose of Lojban - to communicate unambiguously?
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@Gąska said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
Wait, Lojban contains a backdoor to insert English literals into Lojban words? Doesn't it defeat the whole purpose of Lojban - to communicate unambiguously?
@Gąska said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
to communicate unambiguously?
@Gąska said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
communicate
...in... lojban? Good joke.
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@Gąska Japanese for 'girlfriend' is 'girlfriend'.
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@pie_flavor No, it's the same word as the one for 'not-overly-young-girl': 'Kanojo' - that's one of the few things that a loan word is rarely used for.
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@topspin said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@pie_flavor said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@ben_lubar Sounds really universal, I can totally see the Sallys and Antonios of the world using it
Speaking Lojban is the sign of a True Nerd, as it's probably the most useless skill ever invented.
I can bend my proximal interphalangeal joints all at once while keeping all distal interphalangeal joints straight at the same time. It's arguably even more useless, but at least I can show it off to more people.
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@blakeyrat said in I'm sure the Gamergaters will turn this thread into garbage, but until then I have to post this:
@topspin And no nerd has ever been named "Antonio!" If you're named Antonio, you are required by law to open a pizzeria.
Um, actually, there's a taquería exception to that.