"I used to work for Tesla…"
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This probably explains a few things:
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Holy christ, what an invasion of privacy:
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@Polygeekery And probably all that data is still available on their servers, just waiting for someone to crawl in and slurp it up. Linking it to people is trivial, since you have their entire driving history for a long time.
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@Polygeekery That sounds like what every company does. Particularly Google with Android phones.
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And another one for @ben_lubar
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This is hilarious:
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@Benjamin-Hall said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@Polygeekery And probably all that data is still available on their servers, just waiting for someone to crawl in and slurp it up. Linking it to people is trivial, since you have their entire driving history for a long time.
There's no way to tie it to an individual; it could be any Tesla owner who happens to park his car at 27 Shady Oak Drive every night.
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Good god.
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Original thread: Something Awful.
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its arguable [Elon] isn't running [Tesla] successfully considering all the issues
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None of this surprises me.
When he said he could have autonomous cars with a couple of cameras and a single radar, so it would be cheaper than Google, I pretty much considered him one of those hoax Solar Freakin Roadways types.
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@Polygeekery said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
Holy christ, what an invasion of privacy:
INB4: You Euro Commies with your GDPR just hate profit!!1
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@xaade said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
I pretty much considered him one of those hoax Solar Freakin Roadways types.
At some point I painfully realized that shit is surprisingly hard to argue with.
Where are you even going to start explaining what's wrong about the idea... The answer is clearly "EVERYTHING", but that's not very convincing for people who are so far away from reality that they think driving heavy trucks on glass and electronics is a good idea.
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My favorite part of this thread is how mad I bet it's making @masonwheeler.
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@anotherusername Eh I own 5 shares in Tesla and none of this is bothering me. A lot of it is just typical Silicon Valley company bullshit, where they "move fast and break things" but never bother to slow down for a couple weeks and maybe improve shit.
But guess what? Pretty much ALL software development is that in 2018.
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@blakeyrat said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
A lot of it is just typical Silicon Valley company bullshit, where they "move fast and break things" but never bother to slow down for a couple weeks and maybe improve shit.
But guess what? Pretty much ALL software development is that in 2018.That is all well and good, but this software is piloting autonomous self-driving vehicles down the road at highway speeds alongside innocent people who do not know the dangers.
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@Polygeekery said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@blakeyrat said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
A lot of it is just typical Silicon Valley company bullshit, where they "move fast and break things" but never bother to slow down for a couple weeks and maybe improve shit.
But guess what? Pretty much ALL software development is that in 2018.That is all well and good, but this software is piloting autonomous self-driving vehicles down the road at highway speeds alongside innocent people who do not know the dangers.
That is true (and scary!) but probably not a huge difference from Google doing the same, or probably still better than our favorite "disruptive company, now with murder!"
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@blakeyrat said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
A lot of it is just typical Silicon Valley company bullshit, where they "move fast and break things" but never bother to slow down for a couple weeks and maybe improve shit.
Really? Could you see St. Jobs running such a shoddy half-assed operation as the one that St. Elon has built? Both of them had a "build me the impossible and I want it by next week" mentality that drove their companies to rapid success, but Jobs at least ran a tight ship while he was alive. Tesla, on the other hand, is crumbling.
When Apple fucked up the iPhone's antenna, or ran into supply issues where their cheap Chinese vendors just couldn't meet the volume demands, it was a Big Deal. Compare to Tesla, which is building cars in a giant tent in the desert and sacrificing QC in a hopeless attempt to meet its own self-imposed quotas.
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@topspin said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@Polygeekery said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@blakeyrat said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
A lot of it is just typical Silicon Valley company bullshit, where they "move fast and break things" but never bother to slow down for a couple weeks and maybe improve shit.
But guess what? Pretty much ALL software development is that in 2018.That is all well and good, but this software is piloting autonomous self-driving vehicles down the road at highway speeds alongside innocent people who do not know the dangers.
That is true (and scary!) but probably not a huge difference from Google doing the same, or probably still better than our favorite "disruptive company, now with murder!"
The other companies at least make an attempt to have a competent operator in the seat during testing. Tesla is turning their cars loose with assholes who turn on autonomous self-driving and go goof off in the backseat while filming a YouTube video and other such retarded shit.
Yes, Uber had a major incident. Tesla has had many.
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about ~100k lines of C code in a single file
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@topspin said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@Polygeekery said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@blakeyrat said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
A lot of it is just typical Silicon Valley company bullshit, where they "move fast and break things" but never bother to slow down for a couple weeks and maybe improve shit.
But guess what? Pretty much ALL software development is that in 2018.That is all well and good, but this software is piloting autonomous self-driving vehicles down the road at highway speeds alongside innocent people who do not know the dangers.
That is true (and scary!) but probably not a huge difference from Google doing the same, or probably still better than our favorite "disruptive company, now with murder!"
The other fun thing is that after they crash and are sitting around their cars do neat stuff like ignite a battery fire nearly a week later.
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@Polygeekery said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@blakeyrat said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
A lot of it is just typical Silicon Valley company bullshit, where they "move fast and break things" but never bother to slow down for a couple weeks and maybe improve shit.
But guess what? Pretty much ALL software development is that in 2018.That is all well and good, but this software is piloting autonomous self-driving vehicles down the road at highway speeds alongside innocent people who do not know the dangers.
Whoo! America!
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@boomzilla To be fair, that's a property of the battery technology the entirety of human civilization has decided is Good Enough™, not a Tesla problem. All the Lithium Ion cars have that problem.
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@Polygeekery said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
Tesla is turning their cars loose with assholes who turn on autonomous self-driving and go goof off in the backseat while filming a YouTube video and other such retarded shit.
Yes, Uber had a major incident. Tesla has had many.I would believe if someone said they have less accidents than a normal car.
It's that worse is better thing again
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Note that these posts are coming from something awful's tech shitposting forum, so take it with a grain of salt.
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@anotherusername said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
Jobs at least ran a tight ship while he was alive
Yes, he’s not been running things so well anymore since he died.
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@bb36e said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
something awful's tech shitposting forum
So, like this one?
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@Weng said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@boomzilla To be fair, that's a property of the battery technology the entirety of human civilization has decided is Good Enough™, not a Tesla problem. All the Lithium Ion cars have that problem.
It is definitely a Tesla problem, since they are in the business of making electric cars.
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@boomzilla said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@Weng said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@boomzilla To be fair, that's a property of the battery technology the entirety of human civilization has decided is Good Enough™, not a Tesla problem. All the Lithium Ion cars have that problem.
It is definitely a Tesla problem, since they are in the business of making electric cars.
In the same way that it's a GM problem, a Toyota problem, a BMW problem, a Ferrari problem, a Whatever Alphabet's Automotive Subsidiary is Called Again problem, etc. etc.
And in the same way that it's a Samsung problem, an Apple problem, a Dell problem, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Lithium ion batteries burn vigorously and are prone to ignite after thermal or physical damage.
It's an innate property of the technology, much in the same way as "emissions from gasoline engines are Not Good™ for the environment" is a problem for literally everybody making anything using gasoline engines.
It's a thing they can at best mitigate to some degree, but is at its core not a thing that can be "solved" without changing to an entirely different technology, which will have it's own set of insoluble problems.
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@Weng Well remember electric cars are bad because cars should be powered only by coal directly taken out of Pennsylvania (and cleaned with care with a toothbrush, of course) to save the 50,000 jobs or whatever of that useless shitty industry MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA MAGA! Bomb Cuba
... or put another way, remember you're talking to Boomzilla.
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@Gurth said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@anotherusername said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
Jobs at least ran a tight ship while he was alive
Yes, he’s not been running things so well anymore since he died.
No, and neither has his successor.
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@Weng This. Chemical engines (be it combustion engines, hydrogen fuel cells, or others) are relatively safe because the full release of energy depends on adding atmospheric oxygen to the fuel. Which is why a gas tank will burn, possibly quickly, but not explode.
Batteries, supercondensators, high-pressure air tanks, and other technologies where all ingredients for the reaction are stored in the same place are inherently explosive.
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Don't forget that there are other Lithium-based battery chemistries than the one Tesla is using, such as LiFePo4 for example. They're not widely used because most companies are more concerned about energy density than safety, but they exist and are significantly safer.
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@Weng said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
In the same way that it's a GM problem, a Toyota problem, a BMW problem, a Ferrari problem, a Whatever Alphabet's Automotive Subsidiary is Called Again problem, etc. etc.
Yep.
@Weng said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
And in the same way that it's a Samsung problem, an Apple problem, a Dell problem, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Lithium ion batteries burn vigorously and are prone to ignite after thermal or physical damage.
The batteries there are much much smaller and that's very important.
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@boomzilla said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@Weng said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
In the same way that it's a GM problem, a Toyota problem, a BMW problem, a Ferrari problem, a Whatever Alphabet's Automotive Subsidiary is Called Again problem, etc. etc.
Yep.
@Weng said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
And in the same way that it's a Samsung problem, an Apple problem, a Dell problem, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Lithium ion batteries burn vigorously and are prone to ignite after thermal or physical damage.
The batteries there are much much smaller and that's very important.
And very much less apt to be involved in violent collisions at high speeds as well.
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@boomzilla said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@Weng said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
In the same way that it's a GM problem, a Toyota problem, a BMW problem, a Ferrari problem, a Whatever Alphabet's Automotive Subsidiary is Called Again problem, etc. etc.
Yep.
@Weng said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
And in the same way that it's a Samsung problem, an Apple problem, a Dell problem, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Lithium ion batteries burn vigorously and are prone to ignite after thermal or physical damage.
The batteries there are much much smaller and that's very important.
But are still dangerous:
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@Benjamin-Hall: you mean you never became frustrated and threw your laptop out of the window?
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@anotherusername said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
No, and neither has his successor.
True, that. Any priests around here capable of casting 7th-level spells?
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@boomzilla It's an easily solved problem: Just like you don't put a car with a full gas tank onto the salvage yard, you simply de-energize the battery at the first opportunity after a crash.
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@Zerosquare said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
LiFePo4 for example
Polonium? Fucking Polonium? Is safe?
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@Benjamin-Hall A phone is a thing that is likely to be involved in high-speed collisions.
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@Gurth said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
True, that. Any priests around here capable of casting 7th-level spells?
So he can again cast Mass Suggestion upon the population?
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@Applied-Mediocrity Well maybe not, if he lost a level.
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@Gribnit said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
@Zerosquare said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
LiFePo4 for example
Polonium? Fucking Polonium? Is safe?
Stop getting your panties in a knot. It's a typo, it was meant to be LiFePO4 (a phosphate group).
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@JBert said in "I used to work for Tesla…":
It's a typo, it was meant to be LiFePO4
But what it said was polonium.