I hate printers, with a passion
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@JBert said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Zerosquare This has to be fake.
A real printer would not be so polite about it and end the message with "see you in Hell".
Did anyone zoom/enhance on the display window?
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@dcon said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@JBert said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Zerosquare This has to be fake.
A real printer would not be so polite about it and end the message with "see you in Hell".
Did anyone zoom/enhance on the display window?
Is that a printer that can also play Doom?
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@Zerosquare retired my own. I can't recall what series it was but it occupied an area of 2'x3'x4' and weighed at least 60lbs stocked. What a trucker. Mainly donating it because nobody wanted to fix the fuser (I think that's what caused the toner streaks) nor wanted to clean it.
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@Arantor said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Is that a printer that can also play Doom?
It prints out the scene on a new sheet of A4 every time something changes. Like when you move.
You can then take the sheets from the printer, photograph them on a wooden table, scan the photographs and stick them together into a Flash animation that you export to MP4, in order to stream the game to your followers on social media.
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@Gurth said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Arantor said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Is that a printer that can also play Doom?
It prints out the scene on a new sheet of A4 every time something changes. Like when you move.
You can then take the sheets from the printer, photograph them on a wooden table, scan the photographs and stick them together into a Flash animation that you export to MP4, in order to stream the game to your followers on social media.
Quixotic ideas thread is....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gurth said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Arantor said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Is that a printer that can also play Doom?
It prints out the scene on a new sheet of A4 every time something changes. Like when you move.
You can then take the sheets from the printer, photograph them on a wooden table, scan the photographs and stick them together into a Flash animation that you export to MP4, in order to stream the game to your followers on social media.
Quixotic ideas thread is....
Pretty much any thread that any of us posts in, mostly...
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Tsaukpaetra said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gurth said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Arantor said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Is that a printer that can also play Doom?
It prints out the scene on a new sheet of A4 every time something changes. Like when you move.
You can then take the sheets from the printer, photograph them on a wooden table, scan the photographs and stick them together into a Flash animation that you export to MP4, in order to stream the game to your followers on social media.
Quixotic ideas thread is....
Pretty much any thread that any of us posts in, mostly...
You're not wrong!
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The dangers of letting your printer call home:
From https://twitter.com/pikelet/status/1476739760764841987
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@JBert said in I hate printers, with a passion:
The dangers of letting your printer call home:
From https://twitter.com/pikelet/status/1476739760764841987
But how are you going to print from your phone if your printer cannot download jobs from the Canon cloud?
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Thing is, there is plenty of sources showing that ink printers are shady. They lie about ink level, they lie about ink viability, they intentionally break the printing, printing a mess, and claiming it's the ink.
I don't see how they're not buried under class action lawsuits.
I mean, my car tells me it needs maintenance, but it doesn't refuse to start, or shut off claiming the gas tank is empty the day after I filled the tank with only 10 miles driven.
Laser jets are getting cheaper and remaining reliable because printing is becoming obsolete. So there's zero reason to put up with inkjet anymore.
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@PleegWat said in I hate printers, with a passion:
But how are you going to print from your phone if your printer cannot download jobs from the Canon cloud?
I found the support for IPP and AirPrint a huge plus when last buying a printer for my grandparents. Printing from their phone without having to install drivers - we're living the future now.
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@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
we're living the future now.
But have they found a way to miraculously coalesce pure black from only a dark red pigment??
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@PleegWat said in I hate printers, with a passion:
But how are you going to print from your phone
In what universe would you want to do that?
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@PleegWat said in I hate printers, with a passion:
But how are you going to print from your phone
In what universe would you want to do that?
When someone sends you a pdf and you don't feel like starting up a computer to print it?
Although, my network printer makes that possible without any internets being involved. The phone has to be connected to the same WiFi
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@Carnage said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Although, my network printer makes that possible without any internets being involved. The phone has to be connected to the same WiFi
Same with my grandparents' printer. Despite the name, IPP has nothing to do with the internets.
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@kazitor said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
we're living the future now.
But have they found a way to miraculously coalesce pure black from only a dark red pigment??
I wouldn't know. It was a black-only laser printer.
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@topspin I did find myself in need of printing from a phone several times. Of course there's a workaround in form of sending the file from the phone to your email and printing it on a PC, similar to how you send things for printing from your Linux to your Windows machine - but printing from the phone directly would be a whole lot more convenient. And there's a small but increasing number of people for whom a phone is the only computing device.
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
similar to how you send things for printing from your Linux to your Windows machine
I think you've got the direction mixed up, on Linux you can print without installing HP rootkits, or whatever.
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@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Carnage said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Although, my network printer makes that possible without any internets being involved. The phone has to be connected to the same WiFi
Same with my grandparents' printer. Despite the name, IPP has nothing to do with the internets.
Yeah, I could set up internet cloud printing with my printer, but I've explicitly blocked because I don't think that it's a sane workflow.
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
And there's a small but increasing number of people for whom a,phone is the only computing device.
A phone or a tablet. I've had to eplain to an elderly gentleman that, in order to show the photos he had on his iPad, we'd need the special cable to get them off it, and onto a real computer. Since no, we can't connect his pad to the projector with anything we had on hand. Not in the 15 minutes we had before he was due on stage.
...In the end, I had to photograph the photos off the iPad's screen. I did have a USB-C cable for my own phone on me.
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
similar to how you send things for printing from your Linux to your Windows machine
I think you've got the direction mixed up, on Linux you can print
No, I'm pretty sure the mistake is on your part.
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
similar to how you send things for printing from your Linux to your Windows machine
I think you've got the direction mixed up, on Linux you can print
No, I'm pretty sure the mistake is on your part.
I've always had a lot less issues with printing on Linux than on Windows.
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@Carnage define "always". And unlike my previous two posts, here I'm serious - until like 2015, printing on Linux with most non-enterprise printers was near impossible. And BTW, the problem of printer bloatware on Windows is mostly a thing of the past too.
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Carnage define "always". And unlike my previous two posts, here I'm serious - until like 2015, printing on Linux with most non-enterprise printers was near impossible. And BTW, the problem of printer bloatware on Windows is mostly a thing of the past too.
Since about 2005 I think? Possibly earlier. On Windows I had to fuck aroundb with shitty drivers, the printer would just magically so working until both computer and printer was power cycled, and just everything being annoying. On Linux, once it worked, it kept working, and it was usually not much fuzz getting it working. The last 10 years Linux printing for me has been straight plug and play. It works, every time. My windows box still loses the printer, and might say it's printing but just skip the sending to printer step. Lots of annoying shit.
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@Carnage whereas I was unable to configure a printer that worked like a charm on Windows as recently as 2019.
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Carnage whereas I was unable to configure a printer that worked like a charm on Windows as recently as 2019.
Yeah, printers have been the bane of IT for a long time.
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Summary: How many IT people does it take to make a printer work?
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@dkf said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Summary: How many IT people does it take to make a printer work?
All of them.
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Carnage define "always".
Since IPP (1999). Maybe IPP 2.0 (2015).
On the USB side of things, well, the printers with the shitty bloatware, and the printers that don't work with Linux, tend to be the same group.
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@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Carnage define "always".
Since IPP (1999).
I won't say it. I really want to say it but I won't say it. I'm saying it way too often lately. I'm trying to become a better person, but you're not making it easy.
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@Gąska Consumer crap is crap, even if it's supposed to be a "printer"? Yes, I know.
Or do you mean I should read Wikipedia articles more thoroughly before quoting dates?
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@acrow I mean I'm tired of people ignoring parts of my posts that immediately show that what they're about to say is irrelevant because I was talking about something different. In this case, "with most non-enterprise printers".
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@Arantor said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@dkf said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Summary: How many IT people does it take to make a printer work?
All of them.
none, it will never work ...
sigh ... back to printer problems ...
there is only one thing worse then general printers and that is barcode printers
fuck that Zebra!
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@Gąska I didn't need to respond to that, since we were in (violent) agreement. Well, mostly anyway. I've printed with Linux before 2015 at home. But you had to select a printer model with that in mind.
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Carnage define "always". And unlike my previous two posts, here I'm serious - until like 2015, printing on Linux with most non-enterprise printers was near impossible.
Because of the "GDI printing" brainworm—unsurprisingly, if a printer is designed to talk only to Windows, it will only talk to Windows
To a specific version of Windows that is. With GDI being the day-before-yesterday's technology already, you'd have getting these chunks of plastic to work under anything after Vista even if they were mechanically designed to survive more than a year or two.
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@Luhmann I used to work with Zebra as a customer of mine some years ago. It was awful too.
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@xaade said in I hate printers, with a passion:
ink printers are shady.
How many shades can they print?
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@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
I had to photograph the photos off the iPad's screen.
Was the iPad on a wooden table?
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@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@xaade said in I hate printers, with a passion:
ink printers are shady.
How many shades can they print?
: I can print any color you want, as long as it’s cyan.
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@acrow said in I hate printers, with a passion:
IPP has nothing to do with the internets.
Much like how Internet Protocol doesn't really have much to do with Internet?
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@xaade said in I hate printers, with a passion:
ink printers are shady.
How many shades can they print?
: I can print any color you want, as long as it’s cyan.
As long as it's cyan but all the other colours are there anyway
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@xaade said in I hate printers, with a passion:
ink printers are shady.
How many shades can they print?
: I can print any color you want, as long as it’s cyan.
No it can't. It's out of yellow.
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@Luhmann said in I hate printers, with a passion:
fuck that Zebra!
Echoing this. To this date the fucking Zebra has been the only printer I've tried on Linux to either not work at all, lock up the process attempting to print, or outright segfaulting it with no explanation.
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@Luhmann said in I hate printers, with a passion:
fuck that Zebra!
^XA
^LH55,30
^FO20,10^CFD,27,13^FDEveryone^FS
^FO20,60^AD^FDLoves^FS
^FO40,160^BY2,2.0^BCN,100,Y,N,N,N^FDZEBRA!^FS
^XZ
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@HardwareGeek said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@xaade said in I hate printers, with a passion:
ink printers are shady.
How many shades can they print?
Fifty, all grey.
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@Dragoon said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Luhmann said in I hate printers, with a passion:
fuck that Zebra!
^XA
^LH55,30
^FO20,10^CFD,27,13^FDEveryone^FS
^FO20,60^AD^FDLoves^FS
^FO40,160^BY2,2.0^BCN,100,Y,N,N,N^FDZEBRA!^FS
^XZAdding that to my test label collection...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Echoing this. To this date the fucking Zebra has been the only printer I've tried on Linux to either not work at all, lock up the process attempting to print, or outright segfaulting it with no explanation.
In it's defense: it's also shitty on Windows