iOS 11 Thread
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@mrl said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in iOS 11 Thread:
@timebandit said in iOS 11 Thread:
@abarker said in iOS 11 Thread:
Yet during Apple's big thing, it was a massive point in the watch presentation.
And they just forgot to talk about connection issues
Why is it automatically connecting to unauthenticated hotspots to begin with?!?
Because the reviewer wanted it to, probably.
Apple disagrees with you. The watch connects to unauthenticated hotspots by itself,
Does it? The link only said:
We have discovered that when Apple Watch Series 3 joins unauthenticated Wi-Fi networks without connectivity, it may at times prevent the watch from using cellular
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Btw, first security fixes update: https://support.apple.com/pl-pl/HT201222
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@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
Btw, first security fixes update: https://support.apple.com/pl-pl/HT201222
OK, this seems to be a bug fixes and improvements release after all and the link says shit, soā¦
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Oh, and then thereās this:
Forbes contributor Gordon Kelly also cited a report by security firm Wandera that highlights how bad the battery life problem was. After monitoring a subset of 50,000 moderate to heavy iPhone and iPad users, it appears that the battery life for iOS 11 users saw a decay at twice as fast as those running iOS 10.
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@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@mrl said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in iOS 11 Thread:
@timebandit said in iOS 11 Thread:
@abarker said in iOS 11 Thread:
Yet during Apple's big thing, it was a massive point in the watch presentation.
And they just forgot to talk about connection issues
Why is it automatically connecting to unauthenticated hotspots to begin with?!?
Because the reviewer wanted it to, probably.
Apple disagrees with you. The watch connects to unauthenticated hotspots by itself,
Does it? The link only said:
We have discovered that when Apple Watch Series 3 joins unauthenticated Wi-Fi networks without connectivity, it may at times prevent the watch from using cellular
Yes, exactly.
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@mrl said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@mrl said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in iOS 11 Thread:
@timebandit said in iOS 11 Thread:
@abarker said in iOS 11 Thread:
Yet during Apple's big thing, it was a massive point in the watch presentation.
And they just forgot to talk about connection issues
Why is it automatically connecting to unauthenticated hotspots to begin with?!?
Because the reviewer wanted it to, probably.
Apple disagrees with you. The watch connects to unauthenticated hotspots by itself,
Does it? The link only said:
We have discovered that when Apple Watch Series 3 joins unauthenticated Wi-Fi networks without connectivity, it may at times prevent the watch from using cellular
Yes, exactly.
I was talking about the āautomaticallyā part. ;)
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@pie_flavor said in iOS 11 Thread:
@gurth said in iOS 11 Thread:
Older iPods used to have a setting that allowed them to show up as a mass storage device, but that got removed with, IIRC, the first iPod touch (and, I suppose, iPhone).
I had one, and it did. You would reset it while holding Pause and Enter, and it converted itself into a regular storage drive.
I must have missed that trick, but the point is that earlier iPods simply had a toggle in the prefs menu that would turn mass storage mode on or off. (With it enabled you could also get to the music, but those files had names of eight random characters.)
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@gurth said in iOS 11 Thread:
With it enabled you could also get to the music, but those files had names of eight random characters
All the metadata was preserved though, so you could recover the song details by importing into a music player of your choice and letting it organise the files for you
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@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@mrl said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@mrl said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in iOS 11 Thread:
@timebandit said in iOS 11 Thread:
@abarker said in iOS 11 Thread:
Yet during Apple's big thing, it was a massive point in the watch presentation.
And they just forgot to talk about connection issues
Why is it automatically connecting to unauthenticated hotspots to begin with?!?
Because the reviewer wanted it to, probably.
Apple disagrees with you. The watch connects to unauthenticated hotspots by itself,
Does it? The link only said:
We have discovered that when Apple Watch Series 3 joins unauthenticated Wi-Fi networks without connectivity, it may at times prevent the watch from using cellular
Yes, exactly.
I was talking about the āautomaticallyā part. ;)
I know. The article implies that connections are automatic, Apple didn't comment on it.
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@mrl said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@mrl said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@mrl said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in iOS 11 Thread:
@timebandit said in iOS 11 Thread:
@abarker said in iOS 11 Thread:
Yet during Apple's big thing, it was a massive point in the watch presentation.
And they just forgot to talk about connection issues
Why is it automatically connecting to unauthenticated hotspots to begin with?!?
Because the reviewer wanted it to, probably.
Apple disagrees with you. The watch connects to unauthenticated hotspots by itself,
Does it? The link only said:
We have discovered that when Apple Watch Series 3 joins unauthenticated Wi-Fi networks without connectivity, it may at times prevent the watch from using cellular
Yes, exactly.
I was talking about the āautomaticallyā part. ;)
I know. The article implies that connections are automatic, Apple didn't comment on it.
Ah, right. Itās interesting if theyāre gonna be able to get this working before watch becomes GA.
Yeah, this year is fucking bumpy as hell.
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@jaloopa said in iOS 11 Thread:
All the metadata was preserved though, so you could recover the song details by importing into a music player of your choice and letting it organise the files for you
True, but it made things a little difficult if you were looking for a specific track :)
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@gurth said in iOS 11 Thread:
@jaloopa said in iOS 11 Thread:
All the metadata was preserved though, so you could recover the song details by importing into a music player of your choice and letting it organise the files for you
True, but it made things a little difficult if you were looking for a specific track :)
For that, I used Floola. Somewhat glitchy at times, but it was portable, non-confusing, and (usually) worked better overall than iTunes...
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@greybeard said in iOS 11 Thread:
Still no multiuser.
The screen's not large enough for 3 hands, so I feel like this is a moot point
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@bb36e said in iOS 11 Thread:
@greybeard said in iOS 11 Thread:
Still no multiuser.
The screen's not large enough for 3 hands, so I feel like this is a moot point
Because multiuser on the desktop means more than one keyboard and mouse.
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@tsaukpaetra said in iOS 11 Thread:
Because multiuser on the desktop means more than one keyboard and mouse
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@boomzilla said in iOS 11 Thread:
You're gonna make me repeat myself!
You're doing it wrong. Slow down.
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@dcon said in iOS 11 Thread:
You're doing it wrong. Slow down.
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@boomzilla said in iOS 11 Thread:
This is a fun one. Bonus points for not fixing yet it in 3 point releases.
TBH, I miss iOS 10. iOS came with quite a few nice enhancements (mostly design), but at the cost of decreased stability and battery life.
And 3 point releases didnāt manage to fix it, some even made some matters worse!
Not a good Fall for Apple.
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@timebandit I'm an android user myself and generally iPhones, but fuck, that reviewer is an ass. He's not complaining about our favorite 3px problem. He's complaining about 1px (close enough)!
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@timebandit said in iOS 11 Thread:
@dcon said in iOS 11 Thread:
that reviewer is an
assiPhone userFTFY
You changed something?
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Someone with "better" bugs
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@kt_ Yeah, yeah. Revolution. As always, someone else comes up with it, Apple copies it and they're then lauded for it.
Windows Hello anyone?
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@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ Yeah, yeah. Revolution. As always, someone else comes up with it, Apple copies it and they're then lauded for it.
Windows Hello anyone?
Hope you finally learn to read with comprehension. UX REVOLUTION, not TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTION, as in it works so well and is so well integrated, that it actually permanently changes the way people interact with their phone. The same as TouchID was, although Apple didnāt invent fingerprint scanning.
Sheeshā¦
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@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ Yeah, yeah. Revolution. As always, someone else comes up with it, Apple copies it and they're then lauded for it.
Windows Hello anyone?
Hope you finally learn to read with comprehension. UX REVOLUTION, not TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTION, as in it works so well and is so well integrated, that it actually permanently changes the way people interact with their phone. The same as TouchID was, although Apple didnāt invent fingerprint scanning.
Sheeshā¦
Wut? Windows Hello works the exact same damn way as FaceID. I wake my Surface Book, glance in its general direction and am logged in.
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@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ Yeah, yeah. Revolution. As always, someone else comes up with it, Apple copies it and they're then lauded for it.
Windows Hello anyone?
Hope you finally learn to read with comprehension. UX REVOLUTION, not TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTION, as in it works so well and is so well integrated, that it actually permanently changes the way people interact with their phone. The same as TouchID was, although Apple didnāt invent fingerprint scanning.
Sheeshā¦
Wut? Windows Hello works the exact same damn way as FaceID. I wake my Surface Book, glance in its general direction and am logged in.
Hope that helps. ;)
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@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ Yeah, yeah. Revolution. As always, someone else comes up with it, Apple copies it and they're then lauded for it.
Windows Hello anyone?
Hope you finally learn to read with comprehension. UX REVOLUTION, not TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTION, as in it works so well and is so well integrated, that it actually permanently changes the way people interact with their phone. The same as TouchID was, although Apple didnāt invent fingerprint scanning.
Sheeshā¦
Wut? Windows Hello works the exact same damn way as FaceID. I wake my Surface Book, glance in its general direction and am logged in.
Hope that helps. ;)
Exchange that for the Lumia 950(XL). Nothing changes.
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@kt_ I'd take anything that gruber says about apple with a bottle of salt. Plus, the guy invented markdown
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@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ Yeah, yeah. Revolution. As always, someone else comes up with it, Apple copies it and they're then lauded for it.
Windows Hello anyone?
Hope you finally learn to read with comprehension. UX REVOLUTION, not TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTION, as in it works so well and is so well integrated, that it actually permanently changes the way people interact with their phone. The same as TouchID was, although Apple didnāt invent fingerprint scanning.
Sheeshā¦
Wut? Windows Hello works the exact same damn way as FaceID. I wake my Surface Book, glance in its general direction and am logged in.
Hope that helps. ;)
Exchange that for the Lumia 950(XL).
This actually changes a bit. The point is āpermanently changesā: Face ID integrates with Apple Pay, App Store, can be used to identify oneself with other apps (banking, etc).
Plus, it seems that hello IRIS isnāt that reliable after all:
I've had a 950 for almost 3 weeks now. I just started using the feature. So far It's a little hit and miss but overall had been a positive experience. I'll keep trying it out and get back to you. For now that's what I got.
I just got the 950 on a great deal and decided to try it out. I have been having a ton of trouble with the iris scanner. I have fairly small eyes (don't know if that would matter) and also wear glasses. At first I tried to train it without glasses, which worked okay-ish. I can't get it to work with glasses at all, no matter how much I try to improve the recognition.
I wear glasses and the success rate is about 95% I'd say, even during the day outside. If I were you I'd just try it. If you don't like it then don't use it.
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@bb36e said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ I'd take anything that gruber says about apple with a bottle of salt. Plus, the guy invented markdown
Well, though the guy can sometimes try turn failures into something positive sure, but Iāve never caught him lying, so I do believe him when he says that FaceID works.
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@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@bb36e said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ I'd take anything that gruber says about apple with a bottle of salt. Plus, the guy invented markdown
Well, though the guy can sometimes try turn failures into something positive sure, but Iāve never caught him lying, so I do believe him when he says that FaceID works.
@bb36e, on the other hand though:
Face ID should also work through most sunglasses that pass infrared light, although some donāt. And you can definitely make it fail if you put on disguises, but Iād rather have it fail than let someone else through.
In my early tests, Face ID worked well indoors: sitting at my desk, standing in our video studio, and waiting to get coffee. You have to look at it head-on, though: if itās sitting on your desk you have to pick up the phone and look at it, which is a little annoying if youāre used to just putting your finger on the Touch ID sensor to check a notification.
You also canāt be too casual about it: I had a lot of problems pulling the iPhone X out of my pocket and having it fail to unlock until Apple clarified that Face ID works best at a distance of 25 to 50 centimeters away from your face, or about 10 to 20 inches. Thatās closer than I usually hold my phone when I pull it out of my pocket to check something, which means I had to actively think about holding the iPhone X closer to my face than every other phone Iāve ever used. I also apparently hold the phone pretty close to my face when I wake up in the morning ā closer than the recommended 10-inch minimum ā and donāt have my glasses on, so I had to adjust that muscle memory as well. āYouāre holding it wrongā is a joke until it isnāt, and you can definitely hold the iPhone X wrong.
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enough about that, this thread is supposed to document iOS 11 fails. So hereās another one: enough about that, this thread is supposed to document iOS 11 fails. So hereās another one: enough about that, this thread is supposed to document iOS 11 fails. So hereās another one: enough about that, this thread is supposed to document iOS 11 fails. So hereās another one: enough about that, this thread is supposed to document iOS 11 fails. So hereās another one: enough about that, this thread is supposed to document iOS 11 fails. So hereās another one:
@kt_ enough about that, this thread is supposed to document iOS 11 fails. So hereās another one:
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE CARET?!
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@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ Yeah, yeah. Revolution. As always, someone else comes up with it, Apple copies it and they're then lauded for it.
Windows Hello anyone?
Hope you finally learn to read with comprehension. UX REVOLUTION, not TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTION, as in it works so well and is so well integrated, that it actually permanently changes the way people interact with their phone. The same as TouchID was, although Apple didnāt invent fingerprint scanning.
Sheeshā¦
Wut? Windows Hello works the exact same damn way as FaceID. I wake my Surface Book, glance in its general direction and am logged in.
Hope that helps. ;)
Exchange that for the Lumia 950(XL).
This actually changes a bit. The point is āpermanently changesā: Face ID integrates with Apple Pay, App Store, can be used to identify oneself with other apps (banking, etc).
Note the date.
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@rhywden huh, I was not aware of that.
Thanks for keeping me on my toes.
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@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ enough about that, this thread is supposed to document iOS 11 fails. So hereās another one:
Annotating PDFs in iBooks works well, once you get used to living with the bug that the button that brings up the annotations functions disappears if you switch to a different app while you have a PDF open in iBooks. The only solution appears to be closing the PDF, quitting iBooks, re-opening it, and then re-opening the PDF. That it doesnāt remember which pen, colour, font, text size, etc. you had selected if you close the PDF is a minor annoyance relative to the whole button disappearing.
Iāve also had the toolbars disappear on me while it was in annotation mode once. All I could do at that point was draw lines on the PDF, since I had one of the pen tools active, but I couldn't get out of annotation mode, nor close the document.
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@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
Windows Hello anyone?
I first used it on my Galaxy Nexus, released November 17, 2011
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@timebandit I agree that apple saying that they've invented stuff from the ground up for the first time ever is skeezy, but wasn't this easily easy to bypass if you had an image of the person (I may be thinking of Samsung's early phones, though)?
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@bb36e said in iOS 11 Thread:
@timebandit wasn't this easily easy to bypass if you had an image of the person
Yes
(I may be thinking of Samsung's early phones, though)?
Galaxy Nexus was made by Samsung
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@timebandit ah, right. Perhaps nexus would still be alive if Google stayed with samsung instead of LG...
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@timebandit said in iOS 11 Thread:
@rhywden said in iOS 11 Thread:
Windows Hello anyone?
I first used it on my Galaxy Nexus, released November 17, 2011
Are you still using this function?
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@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
Are you still using this function?
Should I've said "tried it". Never really relied on it.
And I use a Nexus 6 now. But the phone is still working
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@bb36e said in iOS 11 Thread:
wasn't this easily easy to bypass if you had an image of the person
With FaceID, you don't even need an image of the person
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@timebandit said in iOS 11 Thread:
@bb36e said in iOS 11 Thread:
wasn't this easily easy to bypass if you had an image of the person
With FaceID, you don't even need an image of the person
Ha ha!
The parents were shocked. Ten-year-old Ammar thought it was hilarious. "It was funny at first," Malik told WIRED in a phone call a few days later. "But it wasn't really funny afterward. My wife and I text all the time and there might be something we donāt want him to see. Now my wife has to delete her texts when there's something she doesnāt want Ammar to look at."
But yeah, you donāt need a photo. You just need to either obtain a 3D scan of a personās face and create a 3D print of it, or you need to be a child of the owner.
To be honest, Iād say Face ID sounds much more secure. :]
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@timebandit said in iOS 11 Thread:
@kt_ said in iOS 11 Thread:
Are you still using this function?
Should I've said "tried it". Never really relied on it.
So yeah, thatās the point.