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@Tsaukpaetra said in Internet of shit:
please connect your meter where charges may apply.
I don't want to know where you apply your charge.
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@Zecc said in Internet of shit:
@GuyWhoKilledBear Sure, but the odds that the victim will try to escape go down considerably once you hack them up to pieces.
Also, you don't want to risk the victims using your smart fridge to send messages to would-be rescuers, so better keep it dumb. (All posters above with no coverage in their basements clearly have a natural advantage here.)
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@dcon said in Internet of shit:
: Status: Shutting down. Not able to determine required updates.
And then the firmware freezes.
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@Arantor said in Internet of shit:
@loopback0 if it's a Samsung product it should play the Samsung song when you've left the door open too long, just to let you know that it's a happy little fridge doing its happy little fridgey business but that it would appreciate you taking a look at it.
I sometimes worry about the people on this forum.
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
@Zecc said in Internet of shit:
@GuyWhoKilledBear Sure, but the odds that the victim will try to escape go down considerably once you hack them up to pieces.
Also, you don't want to risk the victims using your smart fridge to send messages to would-be rescuers, so better keep it dumb. (All posters above with no coverage in their basements clearly have a natural advantage here.)
#freedorothy
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@DogsB I worry about me too. In my case the Samsung song is one of those things that I feel weirdly attached to. I had a washer drier that I couldn’t bring with me when I moved out my old flat (no room here for it) and it would play their little sing when it was done.
Best washer/drier I ever owned, and I felt weirdly sad when it was the last wash and it did its jingle and we both knew it was the last hurrah for it.
Fucking thing made me have feelings for it, dammit.
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
No onebox means I don't know what this links to, but I'm not clicking that, since @arantor mentioned:
In my case the Samsung song is one of those things that I feel weirdly attached to
I don't know what that means and I'm afraid to find out. Keep your marketing out of my brain.
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@topspin it links to a video of a machine playing the Samsung song, and a guy accompanying it on guitar.
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@Arantor what I feared it might be.
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@topspin the marketing worked on me, as I said. You don’t have to succumb to it.
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@Arantor said in Internet of shit:
Fucking thing made me have feelings for it, dammit.
I just know there's an anime out there relating your experience....
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@Zerosquare I feel gipped. Mine only has a tune that last 10 seconds!
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@Arantor said in Internet of shit:
@topspin it links to a video of a machine playing the Samsung song, and a guy accompanying it on guitar.
And the "Samsung song" is actually an excerpt from a piece by a classical Austrian composer.
(: ...except for the second, short jingle at the end, which is probably Samsung-specific.)Here's the 100% washing-machine-free version:
https://youtu.be/J_nKAXM9CY8
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@Zerosquare I don't know the Samsung version, but I do know that version. I didn't even have to listen to the beginning, just read the title, and I already have the tune in my head. Even studied it in a music appreciation class long ago and still have the sheet music for it.
Trivia: It's very unusual for a piano quintet. A piano quintet is typically a piano plus a string quartet — two violins, viola, and cello. However, Schubert scored it for one violin, viola, cello, and double bass.
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
Schubert scored it for one violin, viola, cello, and double bass.
You write for the ensemble you have, not the ensemble you might want.
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@Zerosquare I called that the Korean nursery rhyme when I had a Samsung washing machine, which broke last year. The replacement of a different brand just pings, and though unlike some people I had no attachment to it whatsoever, I did think it helped a lot with knowing the washing was done rather than any of the other household appliances that all ping.
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@dcon said in Internet of shit:
@dkf said in Internet of shit:
I don't have WiFi or 5G signal in either my basement or my garage. The freezers can stay dumb.
: Status: Shutting down. Not able to determine required
updatesads videos.
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@boomzilla We disabled API access "so that we can continue to provide the best possible experience".
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i.e. "If you think that's bad, it's nothing compared to what we could have done".
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@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
@boomzilla We disabled API access "so that we can continue to provide the best possible experience".
According to a post on Twitter that includes making a user sit through a fullscreen advert to be able to open their garage door.
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@loopback0 said in Internet of shit:
@HardwareGeek said in Internet of shit:
@boomzilla We disabled API access "so that we can continue to provide the best possible experience".
According to a post on Twitter that includes making a user sit through a fullscreen advert to be able to open their garage door.
Oh! A timed ad that is halfway up when the skip button appears, which is also still the action button so if they click it the door starts closing again!
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Bought some smart RGB lamps of different b-tier brands, and all of them use an android apps that are exactly identical, except for the branding. I wonder if it's based on something open-source, or if it's a rebranded something, but I couldn't fight what the original something is.
Does anyone recommend anything to control these lamps?
This rebranded app is good enough, but it's a bit slow, and when I get the lamps as a group I lose some options like changing the colors constantly changing automatically (that I'm sure I'll forget about it after 1 week of having these lamps around, when the novelty wears off)
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@DogsB said in Internet of shit:
No.
Just noticed this very old post. A little too late, but in case someone missed that - Ian McCollum reviewed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cRm9BMxl90 (spoilers: he was not that negative).
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@sockpuppet7 said in Internet of shit:
Does anyone recommend anything to control these lamps?
If it's supported, you could Home Assistant. You need a home assistant server, which can be a RasberryPi
Or openHAB
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@TimeBandit I discovered these cheap lights use "Tuya", and a proprietary protocol that depends on their server, so if the internet is down they stop working
"Matter" doesn't have any local manufacturer yet so everything is too expensive because of our high tariffs
I think the only open standard that we can have around here is only zigbee if I understood everything. it needs a hub, but my echo is supposed to handle it
is that correct?
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@sockpuppet7 I don't know about echo handling Zigbee, but you can use OpenHAB with a Zigbee USB stick
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@sockpuppet7 said in Internet of shit:
Bought some smart RGB lamps of different b-tier brands, and all of them use an android apps that are exactly identical, except for the branding. I wonder if it's based on something open-source, or if it's a rebranded something, but I couldn't fight what the original something is.
Try decompiling and checking out namespaces.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in Internet of shit:
@DogsB said in Internet of shit:
No.
Just noticed this very old post. A little too late, but in case someone missed that - Ian McCollum reviewed it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cRm9BMxl90 (spoilers: he was not that negative).
In all honesty, they've done a very good job with this gun. It has none of the stupidity usually associated with "smartness" - it's 100% offline, doesn't require a phone app, uses encryption for the biometrics (I hope it's one way), and they actually integrated the safety mechanisms into the gun's function instead of just bolting it on an existing design, so ripping out the electronics won't get you a usable gun. If I ever have kids and will be shopping for a home defense weapon, I'd definitely consider this pistol (although I hope that by then they'll have long guns on offer as well).
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@sockpuppet7 said in Internet of shit:
@TimeBandit I discovered these cheap lights use "Tuya", and a proprietary protocol that depends on their server, so if the internet is down they stop working
IIRC Tuya works with Alexa so you don't need to use the Tuya app.
I think the only open standard that we can have around here is only zigbee if I understood everything. it needs a hub, but my echo is supposed to handle it
is that correct?
Some Echo devices do but even though it can connect to the device via Zigbee, Echo devices are still pretty reliant on the internet.
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@Gustav said in Internet of shit:
If I ever have kids and will be shopping for a home defense weapon,
I don't think that's what child-proofing a home means.
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@Zecc I get the joke but devices like this are like the definition of child-proofing.
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Thank you for both getting the joke and being overly pedantic.
I was cautiously optimistic, but you never know.
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TIL ITAPPMONROBOT is mass produced now
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adaprox/fingerbot-sense-more-than-just-a-button-pusher
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@sockpuppet7 said in Internet of shit:
TIL ITAPPMONROBOT is mass produced now
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adaprox/fingerbot-sense-more-than-just-a-button-pusher
Just imagine explaining this to someone from the 1950s.
We have these nice, flat light switches built into the walls in the 21st century, they're easier to use than your bulky bakelite things.
OK cool
But we stick plastic boxes on top so they're as big as yours and don't really work for switching any more
But it's fine because we put a switch on top of the switch, it's small and fiddly but then you can switch the light again. If you have a fresh battery in your switch that is.
A battery. In your switch
Because we put a radio in the switch that's connected to a motor and with another radio I always carry in my pocket all it takes to switch my light is half a minute of fondling my pocket radio but I can do it on the highway or from Cape Town, too.
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@LaoC Or:
goes into town ASAP to buy a lifetime’s worth of bakelite light switches, then goes back for some more
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@LaoC You missed the part where fondling your pocket radio in Cape Town (South Africa) sends a signal to a computer in Oregon (USA), which in turn forwards the information to a server in Frankfurt (Germany) that keeps track of your light switching habits for a company in California (USA), as well as a computer in San Salvador (El Salvador) which is the one talks to your light switch In Stockholm (Sweden) because some random ass programmer mixed up the se and sv country codes.
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@cvi the speed of light getting slower and slower.
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@Gustav Anybody ever measure the speed of light in clouds? I'm pretty sure there's a relation of more cloud => more slow.
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@Gurth said in Internet of shit:
@PleegWat said in Internet of shit:
@Gurth Luckily, I don't have a VanMoof. I have a Gazelle.
Same. The worst thing that happened to it was that one of the bearings for the front fork disintegrated earlier this year, but that was easy enough to repair (even if the bike repair shop where I ordered the necessary parts tried to make me believe they had to do a job like that).
I loved the bike shop at the university I went to. Their standard mode of operation was "bring in the bike, and we'll lend you the tools and teach you how to fix it." Since I was riding around on my mother's twenty-year-old bike, I learned a lot of bike maintenance.
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
@Gustav Anybody ever measure the speed of light in clouds? I'm pretty sure there's a relation of more cloud => more slow.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/refractivity
I barely understand anything in there, but it seems like your hypothesis holds.
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@Gustav I didn't read your fine article, but clouds are made of water droplets, and the index of refraction of water is 1.3something, which means the speed of light in water is 1/1.3something, or roughly 67% of the speed of light in a vacuum. (The speed in air is very nearly — 99.9something % — of the speed in a vacuum; the difference is negligible for most purposes, and definitely for rough estimates like this.) So yes, the more clouds, and the more water droplets in the clouds, the slower the average speed of light in the clouds.
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@HardwareGeek This is actually a helpful first step. On a first, coarse approximation we can model the cloud as a collection of tiny pieces of silicon. As is common, we shall assume that they are spherical, in vacuum and remain suspended in their surroundings. That's very similar to what you describe, except that silicon has a refractive index of 3.something. There are probably some other trace elements in the cloud, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Can we get anybody into a few representative clouds, e.g., AWS, Azure or whatever Google has, to measure the relative volume of silicon vs. vacuum in there?
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
measure the relative volume of silicon vs. vacuum in there?
It depends on how many managers are in the room.
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@kazitor said in Internet of shit:
It depends on how many managers are in the room.
Aren't those especially dense?
Have we finally discovered the source of dark matter?
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
@kazitor said in Internet of shit:
It depends on how many managers are in the room.
Aren't those especially dense?
Have we finally discovered the source of dark matter?
Somehow, the more empty space there is, the denser it is.
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@cvi said in Internet of shit:
Have we finally discovered the source of dark matter?
There's an old Polish joke about a priest who won Nobel Prize in physics for discovering how to manipulate dark matter using radio waves.