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@Rhywden My old electric stove is also 3-phase. As well as every stove in every building I have lived in. So, yeah, in Sweden stoves tend to be 3-phase too regardless of type.
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The availability of 3-phase power for residential consumers is probably country-specific. In France, it's available but not very common.
Also, like @PleegWat mentions above, 16 A in 230-V countries supplies twice as much power when compared to 115-V countries.
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@Zerosquare
I see this discussion has sparked your attention
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@Zerosquare Yeah. but heating up a proper cooking field may consume peak power of 7 kW over several seconds (at least, it's not uncommon), so a normal 16A circuit breaker would probably have a problem with that.
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@Rhywden Cookers here use a (dedicated, 2-phase) 30A circuit. 30A × 240V = 7.2 kW. No problem!
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Is it "real" bi-phasing (i.e. 180° out-of-phase), or two single-phase circuits?
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@Zerosquare I think I only get a single phase to the house.
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Brace yourself
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launching this fall
If that 60 mile figure is anything like any of their other pre-launch claims, it will be more like 60 cm when it actually launches.
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@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
If that 60 mile figure is anything like any of their other pre-launch claims, it will be more like 60 cm when it actually launches.
I can't imagine how annoying it must be to be one of their engineers.
"They announced what?!"
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@heterodox Maybe the press office misinterpreted the m in “60m” as miles…
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@dkf said in Internet of shit:
@heterodox Maybe the press office misinterpreted the m in “60m” as miles…
That would simultaneously amaze me and not surprise me at all.
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Embed says:
Whatever they are doing with kids'data, I hope they are properly HTML-encoding it.
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TL;DR: The best (perhaps only good) thing about it is that you can shut off the alarm by hitting it.
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@heterodox
It is true. According to the official Japanese press release, the only claim up to 60 meters in dense surroundings.
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@WPT said in Internet of shit:
@heterodox
It is true. According to the official Japanese press release, the only claim up to 60 meters in dense surroundings.Jesus fucking Christ. Tech journalism. -_-
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@Zerosquare Alarm apps can set themselves as device admin on Android so there's not really an effective way of circumventing them in software... But I had a similar hardware-based solution back when phones had removable batteries.
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@WPT said in Internet of shit:
According to the official Japanese press release, the only claim up to 60 meters in dense surroundings.
So it was a (US) press office fuckup.
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@HardwareGeek I did buy an alarm clock some time ago, but it does have a feature a phone can't supply—a sunrise light. I also bought the non-smart model, which is configured with buttons rather than with phone over bluetooth. It can be snoozed by tapping it (and does the IMO wrong thing by turning off the light as well as the sound—it would make more sense to leave the light on), but I never really understood the point of snoozing anyway.
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@heterodox E_NOT_ENOUGH_AIRQUOTES
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@dkf said in Internet of shit:
@WPT said in Internet of shit:
According to the official Japanese press release, the only claim up to 60 meters in dense surroundings.
So it was a (US) press office fuckup.
I hope someone made a nice sarcastic comment (I'm assuming there's a comment section, to RTFA) about that...
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@dcon Interestingly (once I’d gotten past the “we’re going to sell your data and make it look like you can turn that off” disclaimers), when I got to the bottom of the actual article, it looks like this:
What looks like a “Comments” header but instead of comments after it, there’s only links to other articles.
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@hungrier said in Internet of shit:
Lol. Might as call it the "shut the party down" light.
Actually, now that I think about it. You know how parent can get these nanny apps to track their kids? There could be a real market for the reverse. The kid is probably better with tech anyway, he could install some app on his parents phone and then always know when mom and dad are rolling by so he can hide all the weed and booze.
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@Snooder said in Internet of shit:
he could install some app on his parents phone and then always know when mom and dad are rolling by so he can hide all the weed and booze.
Enable location sharing in Google maps? We use this for both our kids and each other. It's convenient.
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@swayde said in Internet of shit:
We use this for both our kids and each other. It's convenient.
Very convenient, your wife knows when to send her boyfriend away
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@Snooder said in Internet of shit:
Actually, now that I think about it. You know how parent can get these nanny apps to track their kids? There could be a real market for the reverse. The kid is probably better with tech anyway, he could install some app on his parents phone and then always know when mom and dad are rolling by so he can hide all the weed and booze.
There’s already something like that:
Okay, it won’t warn them if their parents are coming home, but checking every so often should provide enough of a warning.
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Not even smart TVs are safe from viruses and malware.
That sounds like the writer expected them to be something else than a computer that happens to be in the shape of a TV.
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@boomzilla holy crap. I'm not exactly in the market for smart bulbs (autocorrect wanted "boobs" there), but yeah.
First, the phrase "factory reset your bulbs", plus "depends on which firmware it's running" makes me want to run in panic (or wonder when I got so )
Then, the actual process makes me feel like you're reprograming the bulbs in binary. And that's only the first process. And if course if you simply miscount and so it doesn't reset right, you'll end up doing the other process, which won't work either.
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Given the average level of stupidity in IoT stuff, I'd have expected them to only expose the reset function thru a mobile app, thus creating a catch-22 when you can't connect to the bulb. And using a power sequence makes some sense when the bulb is in a hard-to-reach place, or you need to reset several bulbs at the same time.
So they get the "this is ridiculous, but it could be worse" badge from me.
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
using a power sequence makes some sense when the bulb is in a hard-to-reach place, or you need to reset several bulbs at the same time.
How much would it cost GE to add a little reset switch to each of those bulbs, say, one of those recessed ones you press with the tip of a pen so you can’t do it accidentally? Must be more than it costs to produce videos like these and employ people to answer questions from customers, else they’d have gone for that, wouldn’t they?
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@Gurth Where would you put that switch? And how would you make sure that you can actually reach this switch?
Not all bulbs are in sockets where you can easily access all sides of them.
I mean, sure, you could take the bulb out of the socket but then it has no power which makes the reset switch useless.
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@boomzilla
Status: Turning on for 8 seconds, off for 2 seconds. I seem to be stuck in an infinite loop. It’s been 72 hours, there are no signs of change. Reality fades, I’ve lost the will to live. Someone send help!
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It occurs to me that they're following similar actions as getting into recovery mode on Windows 10.
Wait, are those things powered by Windows?!?
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@Rhywden said in Internet of shit:
I mean, sure, you could take the bulb out of the socket but then it has no power which makes the reset switch useless.
There must be a non-powered design that allows this to work. Maybe something like: Take bulb out, flick switch from one position to the other, re-insert bulb, apply electricity, firmware says, “The switch has changed position, I’ll do a reset.”
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@Gurth Yah, but that's probably a bit more involved than a simple reset circuit.
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To me, the reset mechanism itself is fine, it's the sequence that's stupidly long. Sure, they had to make it non-trivial to avoid accidental triggerring, but this is excessive.
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@Zerosquare said in Internet of shit:
non-trivial
How often are you turning your lights on for only eight seconds at a time repeatedly?
First method is five times for a total of 55 seconds of effort. The second method is only slightly faster at 47 seconds. And that's if you get it first try!
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@Tsaukpaetra: I think you misread my post. I agree they went far beyond what's reasonable.
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@Rhywden said in Internet of shit:
@Gurth Yah, but that's probably a bit more involved than a simple reset circuit.
As opposed to making something that requires a “five seconds on, two seconds off, eight seconds on, …” power cycling sequence? Okay, sure, you can (I assume) do that last thing purely in code without needing additional hardware such as a switch, but comparing the position of a switch to a stored bit isn’t exactly complex either.
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Not sure if I missed a step in the discussion... but I don't think the light bulbs have any kind of switch. If these are like the wireless lights from e.g. Ikea, then the "IoT" part is a light bulb that has the same form factor as any other traditional light bulb. Inside of the bulb there's a wireless thingy that talks to a basestation or via bluetooth or whatever (from a physical switch POV you just leave them on - the internal circuitry then controls the actual light part.)
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@cvi You have missed a part, yes:—
I said in Internet of shit:
How much would it cost GE to add a little reset switch to each of those bulbs
There must be room for a small one somewhere on the bulb that doesn’t interfere with its fitting into a standard socket.