No Man's Sky
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@blakeyrat said in No Man's Sky:
I've played the game for 20 hours or so and haven't seen one.
Discovery!
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My opinion is that a fully procedural game will have its limits unless narrative and story are also procedurally generated in a meaningful way.
At which point, fuck gaming, we invented AI.
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@xaade Yup.
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Okay, I'd also been playing for a while and thought that had to do with the upgrades over all, not that having them next to one another actually gave you bonuses, so it's at least a little obtuse.
And, while Minecraft totally DOES let you discover recipes and the like, it's be a lot more trouble if you were penalized for experimentation. If you were able to move the mods after you placed them, then yeah. Totally fine to discover that. If you have to disassemble and completely rebuild them in the right place, something that might make you go hunting a kinda long way for the resources to do so, then I'd also be a bit put out. I mean, that matters a little less with the Exo-suit, since those nodes are fixed, but if there is different suits, then I'd still be annoyed about it.
So in THAT reguard, I kinda think @blakeyrat has a point. The game penalizes you for experimentation in a way that Minecraft doesn't. That said, I still like the game. Having a blast with it so far and it's actually kinda chill to pick a planet and see what I can get done for a couple hours. I'm just not gonna say that the experimentation for THAT is a simple thing, especially since if you could move said mods after building them, then it's much more likely to be discovered.
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@bb36e -Pretty much what I envisioned when I heard that two people met in-game and couldn't see each other. They probably couldn't get multiplayer support working in time for the release and just banked on the ridiculously low chance of it happening to prevent people from noticing until they could quietly release a patch to make it work whenever they got around to it.
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@bb36e I wish there were people just as vocal at saying, "hey not every game NEEDS multiplayer".
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@blakeyrat said in No Man's Sky:
@bb36e I wish there were people just as vocal at saying, "hey not every game NEEDS multiplayer".
Well I mean they did say initially that you would be able to see other players. I'm not particularly concerned with it right now, but I think that once-in-a-blue-moon scenario would be cool to see.
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@Fox Well if they do implement it I hope they turn it off.
I don't need another Spore where you see creatures named "TimsAJerk". Fuck that noise.
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@blakeyrat said in No Man's Sky:
I don't need another Spore where you see creatures named "TimsAJerk".
Pretty sure that can already happen right now in No Man's Sky. Let me know if you find a star system named Patriam Vulpes.
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@blakeyrat said in No Man's Sky:
@Fox Well if they do implement it I hope they turn it off.
I don't need another Spore where you see creatures named "TimsAJerk". Fuck that noise.
Yeah, THAT part's already live. I came across a facility which ended up putting a planet note in my Discoveries tab for a planet that was discovered and uploaded by someone else. Thankfully it didn't appear that they had bothered renaming it.
I renamed one planet (that fucking cold planet got called Icefall, mostly just to test the "rename and upload" function), and afterwards said "There's nothing interesting enough to make any of these planets worth noticing, so fuck naming them". Now I just upload everything with the default names for the credits. Wish there was a "bulk upload" function though, having to upload each thing individually gets tedious, especially if you've forgotten to do it for 3 planets.
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@blakeyrat seeing how currently the only working multiplayer in the game consists of seeing things that other people have named...huh?
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@bb36e What do you mean "huh?"
My point is I don't want to see anything other people have named, because it's likely to break my immersion in record time by having a really shitty/stupid name.
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@blakeyrat what does seeing other people have to do with any of that?
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@bb36e So what percentage of the planets are named after genitalia?
Filed Under: Planet Penis of the Phallic Empire
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@mott555 I saw a screenshot of a planet named 'DIXOUTIVHARAMBE'
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@bb36e said in No Man's Sky:
what does seeing other people have to do with any of that?
Breaking immersion?
Because if I see another person, the first thing he'll say is "Donald Trump 4 PREZ!!!". What could be more immersion-breaking than that?
I really don't think I get what you're asking.
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@blakeyrat I don't see what
Well if they do implement it I hope they turn it off.
I don't need another Spore where you see creatures named "TimsAJerk". Fuck that noise.
has to do with seeing other people
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@bb36e ... if I can turn the feature off I won't see creatures named "TimsAJerk".
Again I don't think I understand what exactly you're asking me.
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@blakeyrat that feature is not the promised multiplayer feature.
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@bb36e ... ok?
I'd still like to turn it off. Whether it be "the promised multiplayer feature" or not.
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@blakeyrat said in No Man's Sky:
(Do they still do that? The pre-order thing?)
Yeah, and they'll try to sell you an accidental damage insurance policy, too. You know, in case you drop the DVD, it happens to land edge-down in the gap between two boards on your floor, and then you accidentally kick it, snapping it into a bunch of pieces.
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Some of the more interesting creatures I've found so far:
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Expectations vs reality:
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@mott555 My friend linked me to a video Gametrailers did on the game before they were gone.
One guy kept saying things like, "Hey, this game looks pretty great. They say you can upgrade your ship. How does that work?"
And they kept replying with, "You don't need to know how it works!" or "They can't show everything in a demo!" or "You mine things with LAZERS!" or "It's not about that, you do what you want!"
"Right, but lets say what I want is to build a ship..."
"No, you just don't get it, you don't get the beauty of this game; you can do whatever you want!"
I already wasn't interested. But the fact that these zealots were here that many months before the release and have apparently only gotten worse now has guaranteed that I will not touch it under any circumstances.
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After playing with it some more, my assessment of it can be summed up thusly:
I don't hate it enough to stop playing it, but I wouldn't recommend anyone buy it for the price it's currently at.
If it were a $15-20 indie game that was releasing an Early Access that was in the state it's in right now and they planned on adding stuff over 2-3 years or so, I'd say it'd be worth it. As it stands, it's a AAA price for an Early Access product.
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I've played enough. Fun game for a bit, flawed promise.
Probably play again after a DLC. Was it worth £50 ... yeh, I got two weeks of gameplay before I got bored. That is like 5 quid a night. So not bad tbh.
The new DOOM game I played that for like fucking weeks and I would say I got 10p a night.
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@e4tmyl33t I totally agree.
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@Fox So all the aliens are only a step or two from modern Earth animals?
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@coldandtired Some of them are bigger steps than others, but yeah, pretty much.
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@coldandtired Also, usually they're partly dinosaur.
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@Fox Aliens à la Star Wars.