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I/ı and İ/i
How the fuck are you supposed to visually differentiate those when the only difference is "the line is a little longer"?
Filed under: I'm changing my username to IıİilIıİilIıİilIıİilIıİilIıİilIıİil, Only slightly easier to type than Gạ̶̛̩͎͈̇͛̔̈́̐̿̉͗̈̈̕ska
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@error At least during ancient times when they invented that. Their numbers of camels, wifes, kids, etc. may have been greater than 9, but still less than 100.
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Work VPN forces you to reconnect every 24 hours, exactly. A bit annoying, but logical right?
Except that, because it's exactly 24 hours, it always kicks me off the minute work officially starts, and I have to go through the 2FA song and dance.
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Get rid of composition and all those problems go away.
Filed under: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH WEIRD HOOK THING THAT'S USED BY THAT POLISH GUY ON WDTWTF
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@Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:
Get rid of composition and all those problems go away.
Filed under: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH WEIRD HOOK THING THAT'S USED BY THAT POLISH GUY ON WDTWTF
I'm sure he's done some mental gymnastics that justify why it's a real letter, unlike all those fake letters.
Filed under: I actually recognize Ñ as a distinct letter and it bugs me when people use N in its place.
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How the fuck are you supposed to visually differentiate those when the only difference is "the line is a little longer"?
Yeah, well. Today I found I've been reading and typing the name of Rita Panahi wrong all this time (as Pahani). Goddamn, I learned those letters 4 years old. 'n' and 'h'. One line is a leeetle longer, alright?
Do I vahe dylsexia?
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
switching direction for numbers
They don't say twenty-two, but two-and-twenty
But do they follow the little-endian order for the higher orders like they write it?
Additionally, it must be pretty confusing, because you still type the numbers in big-endian order when typing Arabic text and they get displayed left-to-right, so if you'd write them in little-endian right-to-left if writing by hand, it's pretty weird.
- like German zweiundzwanzig or Czech dva-a-dvacet (not sure about spelling). I.e. writing follows pronunciation. Only bad when numbers become greater than 100.
In Czech the units before tens order is archaic. It's still used, but the normal form follows the big endian order.
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Work VPN forces you to reconnect every 24 hours, exactly. A bit annoying, but logical right?
Except that, because it's exactly 24 hours, it always kicks me off the minute work officially starts, and I have to go through the 2FA song and dance.
Ours forces a reconnection every 16 hours. No idea why 16 specifically.
Inconsistently our newer Windows laptop builds come with an always-connected VPN.
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
Inconsistently our newer Windows laptop builds come with an always-connected VPN.
I wish. I have to re-authenticate to every intranet application every 15 minutes or so, and there are two dozen of those, conservatively.
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@error That deserves two s.
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it always kicks me off the minute work officially starts
Having a specific work starting time is
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
it always kicks me off the minute work officially starts
Having a specific work starting time is
Does work start whenever you roll out of bed? That sounds nice. TBH I need a rigid schedule or times will just drift farther every day.
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Quickstart is so quick! Only 817 seconds.
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Does work start whenever you roll out of bed?
Actually, it start after my first coffee, at least
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@error NodeJS, right?
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
Actually, it start after my first coffee, at least
Stop tormenting me. I can't indulge for another 48 hours.
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Stop tormenting me. I can't indulge for another 48 hours.
The BDSM thread is
Wait, you should know where it is
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I keep confusing big endian and little endian because, say, big endian does not end big. It starts with the "big end".
They should have called it Big Startian or Big Firstian.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@error NodeJS, right?
Worse: Java
And so it comes back to again…
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@error NodeJS, right?
Worse: Java
And so it comes back to again…
Stop it. This is abuse.
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Work VPN forces you to reconnect every 24 hours, exactly. A bit annoying, but logical right?
Except that, because it's exactly 24 hours, it always kicks me off the minute work officially starts, and I have to go through the 2FA song and dance.
Except it's a little bit later every day, right?
I'm not sure what our timeout is but it's definitely several days. I don't have to reauthenticate more than once or twice a week.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
Does work start whenever you roll out of bed?
Actually, it start after my first coffee, at least
No need for that. As @Karla has mentioned some time last year “I shower on the clock.”
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It's Latin unification.
ö
is one of the “unified” characters that has totally different meanings in German, Swedish and French. (Also different in English, but röckdöts aren't a great use to start with.)
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I keep confusing big endian and little endian because, say, big endian does not end big. It starts with the "big end".
They should have called it Big Startian or Big Firstian.
It's called big endian because the "big end" goes "in" (is read by the punch card machine or whatever" first.
I think it's a literary reference to a novel where there's an island where there's two tribes. One eats their hard boiled eggs starting from the "big end", and one starts eating from the "small end".
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in WTF Bites:
it's a literary reference
Yes, to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulliver's_Travels, and most dramatised versions of that work leave out a vast proportion of it…
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@boomzilla said in WTF Bites:
Except it's a little bit later every day, right?
It drifts forward daily by the length of time it takes to re-authenticate... Which involves getting a nonce token from my phone. Then it resets every Monday.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in WTF Bites:
it's a literary reference
Yes, to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulliver's_Travels, and most dramatised versions of that work leave out a vast proportion of it…
Huh, and an uncultured swine like myself always thought it was some kind of reference to indigenous peoples.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
Stop it. This is abuse.
Admit it, you like it
I thought I already did.
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@error NodeJS, right?
Worse: Java
And so it comes back to again…
Stop it. This is abuse.
That doesn't sound like the safe word to me.
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The Latin script works a bit differently when writing Turkish than it works when writing other languages. Turkish has I/ı and İ/i unlike all other languages written in Latin script that have I/i. It is really similar problem to how the Hanzi script works a bit differently when adopted by Japanese as Kanji. You can then try to encode the look of the letters or some kind of their identity and either way you complicate something.
Unicode already has separate code points for a and а. Why not make Turkish I and i separate code points as well? But noooooo, that would be too easy, better change the fundamental property of uppercase-lowercase relationship and make it locale dependent! That's so much easier and fixes so many problems we didn't even know we had! God fucking dammit. Sometimes Unicode Consortium makes weird decisions. But sometimes they seem to turn off their thinking entirely. Seriously, what were they smoking when they decided on this solution? And it only saves two code points! Two code points, when there are now thousands allocated to various shades of poo!
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@TimeBandit said in WTF Bites:
@error NodeJS, right?
Worse: Java
And so it comes back to again…
Stop it. This is abuse.
That doesn't sound like the safe word to me.
I legitimately use this line a lot.
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Is it syntax highlighter pride day?
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@error I see this quite often in various "modern" editors and I always wonder how they even managed to fuck things up in this particular way.
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@Gąska I've seen it a lot in Eclipse and sometimes in VS. Near as I can tell, some "major" change in the class structure basically makes it drop all its limes and put something together while it tries to recompile and figure out what's actually going on.
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@hungrier If a major change is putting a couple new lines into a method.
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@error Sometimes "major" is very subjective. Maybe it's more like the dog from Up
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@hungrier in VS, I've only seen the "there was some other code before in here but now it's new and the new code gets the same highlighting, character for character until it reindexes" variant. But this... This is completely bonkers. There's no rhyme or reason to the colors chosen or the positions of spans.
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@Gąska Usually VS doesn't forget everything, but I see the "completely wrong, not even in any remotely sensible" version a lot in Eclipse.
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Also Status: I love how, in the usual TDWTF fashion, "Unicode Consortium makes very questionable decisions
sometimesall the time" has been twisted into "@Gąska is again playing the ultimate arbiter of truth and decides which symbols are worthy of being called letters and which aren't, oh and he's being a hypocrite about it". If I wasn't so used to that by now, I'd be all .
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@error
Your name most likely remain an error
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Also Status: I love how, in the usual TDWTF fashion, "Unicode Consortium makes very questionable decisions
sometimesall the time" has been twisted into "@Gąska is again playing the ultimate arbiter of truth and decides which symbols are worthy of being called letters and which aren't, oh and he's being a hypocrite about it". If I wasn't so used to that by now, I'd be all .Bitching about how hard your name is to type is as much a meme here as me and . It's hard to forget about, because every time I try to type your name, I can't.
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@error okay but how does that make some letters more equal than others? That's the part I don't get.
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how does that make some letters more equal than others?
They actually appear on our keyboards
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@loopback0 said in WTF Bites:
Work VPN forces you to reconnect every 24 hours, exactly. A bit annoying, but logical right?
Except that, because it's exactly 24 hours, it always kicks me off the minute work officially starts, and I have to go through the 2FA song and dance.
Ours forces a reconnection every 16 hours. No idea why 16 specifically.
Inconsistently our newer Windows laptop builds come with an always-connected VPN.
Ours lasts 24 hours, but I don't think it survives the laptop going to sleep. Anyway I kill it at the end-of-day.
Web apps are single-sign-on, which really allows you to only enter your password once, but its session expires at a fixed time every day, namely 16:00 CET (also known as 7AM PST). And on the app side it needs renewing every hours which breaks some applications (like jira).
Slack sessions last 1 week, or 168 hours. I wish they'd reduce that to 164 or so since the way slack handles session expiry is pretty horrible.
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@BernieTheBernie said in WTF Bites:
Unicode is definitely even though it's conspicuously better than the mess that preceded it.
is human writing systems, especially Arabic and Hangul (Korean). Besides the UTF-16 blunder most of the Unicode complexity is caused by the mess it is trying to represent.
You haven't learned any Indian alphabet yet. Many became simple during their evolution (by placing characters after each other), but some like Khmer still create terrible clusters (not only single consonant+vowel/diphthong, but multiple consonants with vowel/diphthongs).
I'm not quite sure about Khmer but it seems to be a fairly close relative of Thai/Lao in the family of Brahmic scripts. They look like a complete on first sight but once you've understood the not so many ways you can build a syllable they're not so bad, especially considering you can just pronounce what you read (in Lao
100%99.9%¹, in Thai not quite because they kept some archaic spellings but it's still pretty close) and don't have to put up with hundreds of wieeird rules and exceptions as in English. You have to do a bit of layout with the syllables, but it's basically just "e goes before the consonant (you have to type it before anyway so no problem), i-ish above, u below, a behind, tone marks on top of all that".One that's really a hot mess is Sinhala. Vowels have an independent form, like for the beginning of a word, and a diacritic one that attaches to a consonant, and they don't look alike at all. ඕ is independent long o, ෝ (a circumfix for the consonant) is the same in diacritic. A few vowels have different diacritic forms depending on what consonant they attach to. And on top of that, you can have consonants combined with semivowels that form ligatures that again look quite different from the ones they represent, sometimes even in different order. Fucking awful.
¹ There's just one rare exception where an h can modify a tone or be an actual h.
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@Gąska Usually VS doesn't forget everything, but I see the "completely wrong, not even in any remotely sensible" version a lot in Eclipse.
Huh...I don't recall ever getting that.