Did I banned?
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@Jaloopa said in Did I banned?:
@boomzilla or maybe there should be some research done so there are more facts and fewer people spouting their opinions as gospel truth
What were we talking about again?
A point which I thought that I addressed quite a while back. But the CDC only makes sense in a supporting role, perhaps supplying some technical know how on the epidemiological front.
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@boomzilla so who should do the research?
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@groo said in Did I banned?:
@anotherusername Reality has an anti-gun bias
Well, yes, it takes a fair amount of work to make a gun. Though it would be pretty cool if we could just mine them directly out of the ground.
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@groo said in Did I banned?:
@abarker It's not just one comment if you don't take your "MOD" badge out while doing it.
Wait … we got badges? When did NodeBB get badges?
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@boomzilla Why would someone put all that effort on guns when it could be spent making more swords?
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@Jaloopa said in Did I banned?:
@boomzilla so who should do the research?
If you really want to know go back and read what I wrote before
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@groo said in Did I banned?:
@boomzilla Why would someone put all that effort on guns when it could be spent making more swords?
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@anotherusername As an ancient character, I'll just dismiss those toys as fiction or witchcraft
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@FrostCat That "well known fact" is made up. By you.
Urban states with heavy gang populations such as California and New York aren't particularly high up on the list of per-capita gun killings, though of course in terms of absolute numbers, they look like murder capitals because of their big populations. Mid-size Southern states seem to be the places people are trigger-happiest -- and where, of course, political opposition to gun control often runs strongest.
Using Washington State data, two assumptions on which interventions can be based were tested: compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents.
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@anotherusername said in Did I banned?:
Then I'd have to say that they probably all had the same deliberate flaws in their data gathering methods that forced their to data agree with their anti-gun bias.
Then you're accusing like a dozen people of bad faith with absolutely no evidence just because they 1) went out and gathered data and 2) it disagrees with your preconceived notions.
Case-control studies are an acceptable statistical methodology.
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@Captain said in Did I banned?:
Then you're accusing like a dozen people of bad faith
Given that gun grabbers act in bad faith, that might be reasonable. For example, do you believe Armed America was legit?
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@Captain congratulations, you managed to find one source that utterly fails to look at gun violence in cities and instead averages it across whole states. One that says something completely different from what you wanted it to say, which was "rural areas are more dangerous than urban areas because they're full of gun-totin' rednecks" (what it actually said was "people who died from guns in rural areas were more likely killed by a shotgun or rifle, and more likely a suicide or accident, than people who died from guns in urban areas" -- this has nothing to do with which place was less safe, i.e. had a higher death rate). And a third that clearly refutes you, "Now it’s true that the risk of homicide is greater in big cities than it is in the countryside", and then goes on to talk about simple accidents -- non-gunshot related -- which comprise the majority of the deaths they looked at; for instance, cars: "people drive more, drive longer, drive faster and drive drunker in rural areas than in urban ones".
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@anotherusername That's some nice @fox-level BS right there.
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did i banned?
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@Captain I couldn't see any detail, but it seems like a mistake to all urban areas alike. TFA (in Time, the other link wanted me to login) just said "urban" and "rural."
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Why hasn't this crap been Jeffed yet? I don't mean just moved to the Guns thread, I mean canned and purged from the database, because this whole thing is just an excuse for Frostcat and Captain to fling poo at each other. Get a room you two!
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@ScholRLEA said in Did I banned?:
Why hasn't this crap been Jeffed yet?
Someone call the waaaaaambulance!
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@FrostCat said in Did I banned?:
@ScholRLEA said in Did I banned?:
Why hasn't this crap been Jeffed yet?
Someone call the waaaaaambulance!
Well if you want to do that kink...
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Ok, instead of spending time to Jeff the gun discussion over to the gun thread, I'm just going to lock this so you can post in the gun thread yourselves.