PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!
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What could it be? Zika? Measles? Super-Mexicanized-Mega-Bees?
Nope, it's something else:
And the crisis isn't "there isn't enough of it!" Shockingly, they think there's too much.
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@blakeyrat I thought it was going to be that women can't go to women's bathrooms.
I'm glad to know that there is stupid on both sides.
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@blakeyrat BTW, straight from the horse's mouth, people who live in Utah are called "Utahns". Bam. Right there in the article.
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said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
And the crisis isn't "there isn't enough of it!" Shockingly, they think there's too much.
looks like they don't know the concept of 'enough dakka'
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@blakeyrat
"It is non-binding: we're not spending money and we're not banning anything," Weiler said.Totally pointless, then.
In (literally) other news, I was driving to work this morning, in Utah, when I heard this;
The gist of the complaint is;
What happens when you mix alcohol with movies with an R-rating for nudity or sexual content?
In Utah, you get fined and your license can be suspended.
Recently, Brewvies — the theater in Salt Lake City where moviegoers can sip the beverage of their choice — found out again that "Deadpool" (rated R) combined with Moose Drool (4.1 percent by weight) equals a spanking from the attorney general's office and the Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control (DABC).
My flight home to normality is Friday morning. Scotland has rarely seemed more normal...
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@skotl So, now drunk people act out movies?
It's clear the answer is to show them Power Rangers while drunk.
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But that resolution has no real or practical effect.
He has nothing better to do than emit useless propaganda?
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"a drawing of the main character (male) is shown as he rides on the back of a unicorn, he rubs its horn briefly until the horn shoots out rainbows (simulating orgasm)."
I give you a 'G' rated show depicting erectile dysfunction.
Because that's what cartoons do. They make jokes. That's what they've always done. It's intellectually dishonest to say that they don't.
Knowing this, how can you fault Deadpool for it.
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Plus, Weiler added, if someone has a right to view porn, "What about my First Amendment right to not see it if I choose not to?"
He's right. I completely oppose to all these laws we have that force people to watch porn.
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@anonymous234 It is the restrictions forced on people by religion, in a free country. It just does not work, they should either relax their interpretations of their religion or adopt a strict sharia law like in Saudi Arabia. Hang them for watching porn or shaking hands with the opposite sex, and they will learn to wank off to this:
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@dse Well, it's not black. That's a very provocative color.
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@xaade said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
@dse Well, it's not black. That's a very provocative color.
Yeah it is hard core material
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@dse Is it because everyone else is smart enough to know how to find porn online for free?
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@powerlord Wait... what? how? really?
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@skotl Isn't this how got his arm buff?
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@skotl Moose Drool is pretty tasty.
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@blakeyrat Does this include even the new stuff made in California with the goggles and whatnot?
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@dse said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
and they will learn to wank off to this
What's wrong with wanking off to the picture of a beautiful woman's face?
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@asdf said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
What's wrong with wanking off to the picture of a beautiful woman's eyes
face?It puts too much emphasis on enhancing the imagination and increase the risk of becoming a geek. You are extrapolating a face from her eyes, that is a grave mistake :--)
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@xaade said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
I thought it was going to be that women can't go to women's bathrooms.
Because there's men in them?
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@anotherusername You are free to interpret that statement however you wish. It is satirical.
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@skotl said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
4.1 percent by weight
Who the fuck measures alcohol by weight? Figures that Utah would be among them.
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@dse said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Beat me to it. The small socially conservative minority is always trying to fuck shit up in Utah.
My favorite one is their liquor laws. They only allow crappy mass-produced beer - hoping people would drink less. Instead Utah has wonderful craft beer. They outlawed public bars, so Salt Lake City is littered with "private clubs" that charge a $5 one-day membership and serve alcohol.
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@blakeyrat said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
What could it be? Zika? Measles? Super-Mexicanized-Mega-Bees?
Nope, it's something else:
And the crisis isn't "there isn't enough of it!" Shockingly, they think there's too much.
I heard somewhere that Utah was like one of the largest consumers of porn in the USA. Have no idea if it is true or not, but if it is ... all of the schadenfreude :D
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@dse said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Yeah, this. Thanks for confirming what I vaguely remembered.
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I don't know where conservatives get this from.
Liquor in Bible - check.
Only rule against alcohol is not excessive drunkedness - check.
Jesus turns water in wine - check.
No, it's not grape-juice. You can't save the best grape juice for last, and why would that matter unless the guests were getting intoxicated - check.
New wine-skin vs. old wine-skin parable, bursting because of the release of gases due to fermentation - check.
This isn't really a checklist - check.Ok, my checklist is turning more and more into an argument.
Point being, the only groups I can imagine being against drinking, are only so because they never bothered reading the book they believe in.
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@skotl said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
"It is non-binding: we're not spending money and we're not banning anything," Weiler said.
Totally pointless, then.Local politics is full of this.
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@Jaime said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
My favorite one is their liquor laws.
Not my favorite. I end up filling up my luggage with liquor when I travel to Utah from California, all in the good old consumerist spirit of saving money by spending more!
@Jaime said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Utah has wonderful craft beer.
It is Ok. I like dark beer and that is I guess not easy to make.
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@xaade said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Point being, the only groups I can imagine being against drinking, are only so because they never bothered reading the book they believe in.
It's usually a combination of
@xaade said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Only rule against alcohol is not excessive drunkedness - check.
and 'avoiding temptation' - I can see why they'd want to ban things that can be used wrong, but it still seems excessive.
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@Vaire said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
I heard somewhere that Utah was like one of the largest consumers of porn in the USA.
Exactly! It's a PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS!
won't somebody think of the children
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@Magus said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
I can see why they'd want to ban things that can be used wrong
@flabdablet said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Exactly! It's a PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS!
I don't see anyone volunteering to ban their dicks.
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@flabdablet said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
won't somebody think of the children
Dude, that sort of stuff is illegal pretty much everywhere.
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@boomzilla Utah is not pretty much everywhere.
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@flabdablet Yeah, but for that it's not like they're Thailand or something.
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@anotherusername said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
@skotl said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
4.1 percent by weight
Who the fuck measures alcohol by weight? Figures that Utah would be among them.
Uhm, it's a legitimate form of measurement for mixtures. After all, mass is pretty much independent of any environmental variables, unlike volume fractions which are dependent on pressure and temperature.
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@xaade said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Liquor in Bible - check.
Only rule against alcohol is not excessive drunkedness - check.And even then it's less of a "rule" and more just "solid advice".
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@Rhywden said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Uhm, it's a legitimate form of measurement for mixtures. After all, mass is pretty much independent of any environmental variables, unlike volume fractions which are dependent on pressure and temperature.
The alcohol content is measured by its specific gravity, which is also dependent on pressure and temperature.
Anyway it's fairly irrelevant at the range of temperatures and pressures at which it can safely be consumed, given the degree of inaccuracy already in that number.
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@anotherusername said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
@Rhywden said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Uhm, it's a legitimate form of measurement for mixtures. After all, mass is pretty much independent of any environmental variables, unlike volume fractions which are dependent on pressure and temperature.
The alcohol content is measured by its specific gravity, which is also dependent on pressure and temperature.
Anyway it's fairly irrelevant at the range of temperatures and pressures at which it can safely be consumed, given the degree of inaccuracy already in that number.
Specific gravity is not weight. And if you actually meant to talk about specific gravity then I really don't know what your problem is.
Also, you surely meant to say: "Is measured using its specific gravity".
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@Rhywden Specific gravity is dependent on pressure and temperature. It's used to determine ABV, which is also dependent on pressure and temperature. ABW which is not supposed to be dependent on pressure and temperature but using the specific gravity to calculate it makes it so (all of the links I've seen just said to use a constant conversion factor, which wouldn't correct for the differences in pressure and temperature).
In other words, your main argument for ABW - that it isn't dependent on pressure and temperature - probably isn't even true.
Also, I meant "is measured by [measuring] its specific gravity", but putting "measure" in twice makes it redundant.
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@anotherusername Could you please refrain from throwing around abbreviations without also explaining what those are supposed to be?
And I was talking about "mass fractions". I didn't name that method of measurement explicitly but "volume fractions" should have been a dead giveaway.
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@anotherusername I don't know.
Nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Then there's
Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.
So, I don't think the command is against getting drunk, but being a drunkard, which is two different things.
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@Rhywden said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Could you please refrain from throwing around abbreviations without also explaining what those are supposed to be?
O.K.
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@Lorne-Kates said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
@Rhywden said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Could you please refrain from throwing around abbreviations without also explaining what those are supposed to be?
O.K.
Smartass :)
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@Rhywden said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
Could you please refrain from throwing around abbreviations without also explaining what those are supposed to be?
take a wild guess. We're talking about alcohol content. and volume. and weight. and the "B" stands for "by".
@xaade said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
So, I don't think the command is against getting drunk, but being a drunkard, which is two different things.
Exactly.
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@anotherusername It's still an environment-independent unit of measurement.
Doesn't matter if, in order to actually measure it, you have to consider environmental conditions.
Or do you now want to tell me that the unit "kilogram" is not such a unit of measurement because to (easily) measure it on earth, you have to take the local gravitational force into account?
There's a huge difference between:
- Object A has 5 frobnicators anywhere in this universe
- Object B has 10 fizzbuzzes, under the standard conditions of 10 G, 20 P and 10.5 C
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@Rhywden if your primary excuse for using a unit is because it doesn't depend on stuff that the number you actually measure does depend on, then yeah... that alone is not a good reason to use it. Think of a different reason.
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@anotherusername said in PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS in UTAH!:
@Rhywden if your primary excuse for using a unit is because it doesn't depend on stuff that the number you actually measure does depend on, then yeah... that alone is not a good reason to use it. Think of a different reason.
You're confusing the method of measurement with the units.
Until you have educated yourself on the difference, I see no point in further continuing this.
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@Rhywden I'm not confusing anything. I know the difference perfectly well. The fact that you think I'm confusing them just indicates that you haven't grasped any part of my argument whatsoever.
Look, let's review.
who the fuck uses alcohol by weight?
it's a perfectly cromulent unit because it's not dependent on pressure or temperature
it's not supposed to be, but the number you actually measure will be, so that's not a good reason
you're confusing the method of measurement with the units
wat@ben_lubar why isn't my username mention avataring correctly?