Marketing bullshit WORDS DON'T HAVE TO MEAN ANYMORE!



  • Marketing still hasn't matched its first, original, classic redefinition of an existing word: "medium" for the smallest size of something. The word "medium" means "in the middle". You can play games with overblown exaggeration all you want, calling something not especially large "super" or "giant", something that only fits one person "family size", and I'll roll my eyes and look the other way. But you can't say something at the extreme end of the range is "in the middle".

    And while we're at it, stop asking me to "confirm" my account number for you when what you really mean is "tell me what it is". Or I will reach through the phone line and tie your uvula into a bowline hitch.


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    Sir, I'm sorry, but before you can post to Discourse, I'm going to need you to confirm your account name.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Yamikuronue said:

    Quote where I complained about them sending me an email.

    Yes...yess....feel the blakeyrat flow through you!



  • @da_Doctah said:

    The word "medium" means "in the middle". You can play games with overblown exaggeration all you want, calling something not especially large "super" or "giant", something that only fits one person "family size"

    Wait... I thought fast food joints started this trend by calling 20 oz drinks "medium" but pricing them the same as the large used to be. Who is calling a small "medium"?


  • BINNED

    @da_Doctah said:

    Marketing still hasn't matched its first, original, classic redefinition of an existing word: "medium" for the smallest size of something.

    The word "medium" in this context means a person that mediates communication between a non-visible product and a living human customer. It is the job of the "medium" to sell new cloths to emperors, with appropriate price that is higher than small but lower than large.



  • @Jaime said:

    Who is calling a small "medium"?

    McDonald's, for one. Some of their iced specialty drinks, it seems, come in three sizes: small, medium and large; others only come in two sizes: medium and large. The actual volumes do not correspond between the two groups.

    ("You've reached the office of Marshall McLuhan. At the sound of the tone, please leave a medium message.")


  • area_can

    Of course, because Valve can never do any harm because they make those vidyagaems that I like!


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @izzion said:

    Sir, I'm sorry, but before you can post to Discourse, I'm going to need you to confirm your account name.

    My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my forum. Prepare to die.


  • Garbage Person

    Probably a good bit longer than that, I've been nutritionally aiming to lose 2 a week but have only hit 1.25. But then I'm diet only, no exercise above baseline right now because fuck me my schedule is awful.



  • The title "Marketing bullshit WORDS DON'T HAVE TO MEAN ANYMORE!" reminds me of http://dilbert.com/strip/2011-05-10

    Before the EC forbid it for fair competition raisins, we had Summer and Winter Clearance Sails in Germany. Originally to get rid of the summer / winter fashion clothes, then to sell overpriced but seemingly discounted crap specially made for this occasion to high-pressure and elbow-hit proof customers.



  • @PWolff said:

    then to sell overpriced but seemingly discounted crap specially made for this occasion to high-pressure and elbow-hit proof customers.

    I bought [brand name] gloves in march and they cost like 5€.
    The discounts can be real.



  • Yes, there are still exceptions to the rule.

    Filed under: https://de.wikiquote.org/wiki/Satire



  • @kt_ said:

    @anotherusername said:
    and I'm not a mind reader.

    At least you're aware that the whole misunderstanding was entirely your fault.

    I will admit that I did not get that she meant to say "doorbuster" and "week" don't go together, because she didn't actually say that and the ad didn't say "week". But it's more her fault for not saying it, than my fault for not reading her mind.

    <unless you're making a joke about it being a man's fault when he fails to read a woman's mind. In which case, whoosh on me I guess.


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @da_Doctah said:

    Marketing still hasn't matched its first, original, classic redefinition of an existing word: "medium" for the smallest size of something

    Hmm, actually, the medium isn't the right size for me. Can I have an extra medium, please?



  • I think they should deregulate all sales. Let things be on "sale" all the time. Maybe then people will figure out it doesn't mean anything.

    And if they don't, hey, it stimulates the economy. It's win/win.


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    And now the word "News" means "free end-user feature survey via comment section".

    http://i.imgur.com/lP9tS3s.png

    👱 How did my survey go?
    👩 17% were OUTRAGED and said they'd BOYCOTT APPLE 4EVER!!!! over this. 45% called them EPIC and that Apple has WON MUSIC!!!
    👱 And the other 38%?
    👩 Spoiled ballots-- ranting about Trump, Syrians or their response came from an Android.
    👱 spit on floor
    👩 spit on floor
    👱 Excellent! We can eliminate the headphone jack, and save $0.0325 per unit! Even when the iPhone 7 flops, I'll have saved the company over a million dollars. My bonus is assured. That was the best $1000 I ever spent on a survey.
    👩 shifty eyes Yes. Spent on a survey. Anyways I'm off to go shopping.


  • FoxDev

    @Yamikuronue said:

    I'm sure people are just ITCHING to bust down the online "door" for half-off yarn at Jo-Ann Fabrics.

    i would have, if i was at all willing to leave my house on black friday.... or go anywhere near a shopping centre between black friday and new years....

    i worked retail long enough that there's no way you can convince me to head out into those crowds no matter what you offer me! (well, short of a very big bag of cash... or gems... or other reasonably fungible asset)


  • BINNED

    @accalia said:

    i would have, if i was at all willing to leave my house on black friday.... or go anywhere near a shopping centre between black friday and new years....

    +∞



  • @Lorne_Kates said:

    or their response came from an Android.

    Like "I'd like to buy an iPhone but then I'd have to mothball 90% of my equipment like headphones and buy the Apple equivalents."


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @PWolff said:

    Like "I'd like to buy an iPhone but then I'd have to mothball 90% of my equipment like headphones and buy the Apple equivalents."

    "I'd like to upgrade my iPhone, but then I'd ahve to mothball 100% of my equipment like headphones, chargers, connection cables, third-party accessories and cases, and buy the slightly different form-factor Apple decided to go with this generation for no reason other than making me buy new first-party accessories."



  • @anonymous234 said:

    I think they should deregulate all sales. Let things be on "sale" all the time. Maybe then people will figure out it doesn't mean anything.

    Sounds like Kohl's.


  • Garbage Person

    My one and only non grocery retail trip in that timeframe is to the Hallmark store to buy hilariously inappropriate cards (apologies, sorry your kid died, etc.) And the fugliest available wrapping paper.


  • FoxDev

    @Weng said:

    And the fugliest available wrapping paper.

    i generally go with "i clicked the amazon gift wrap option because i can't be assed to crossship the gift so i'll have amazon ship it", "i just sent it direct to your house from amazon", "you're lucky i wrote your name on the box", "butchers paper wrapping like it was porn", or "butchers paper wrapping with boobies and dicks drawn on it like it was very unsubtle porn" as my wrapping methods of choice.


  • Dupa

    @Lorne_Kates said:

    "I'd like to upgrade my iPhone, but then I'd ahve to mothball 100% of my equipment like headphones, chargers, connection cables, third-party accessories and cases, and buy the slightly different form-factor Apple decided to go with this generation for no reason other than making me buy new first-party accessories."

    Actually, Lightning connector is pretty awesome: it fits both ways and holds the phone, so you can even lift it up by the cord. Way better than this fucking USB fucking abomination.


  • FoxDev

    @kt_ said:

    Actually, Lightning connectorUSB C is pretty awesome: it fits both ways and holds the phone, so you can even lift it up by the cord. Way better than this fucking USBLightning Connector fucking abomination. It's even a fucking standard so you can get really cheap replacements instead of spending $40 for what should be a $2 cord (and you get the quality of the $2 cord too, or rahter the lack thereof) just because they'll release a patch in a week or two that will make all non Apple cords fail to work with your phone.

    FTFE


  • Dupa

    @accalia said:

    Actually, USB C is pretty awesome

    Yup, a standard that no-one's using, yet. Whereas Lightning's been around for 3 years already.

    So hooray! for USB-C.

    @accalia said:

    It's even a fucking standard so you can get really cheap replacements instead of spending $40 for what should be a $2 cord

    $40? I see it costs less than $1.

    EDIT: Dicksource broke. But WONTFIX-ASDESIGNED


  • FoxDev

    @kt_ said:

    Whereas Lightning's been around for 3 years already.

    and is used exclusively by one company that regularly goes out of its way to fuck third party accessories in the ass and has massively inflated prices on their kit.

    yeah... I'll stick with a company that's less obviously in it only to extract as much money out of your wallet as possible while maintaining as high a profit margin as they can get away with.

    @kt_ said:

    $40? I see it costs [less than $1]1.
    yep. and five will get you five and a penny that that cord will fail to work in the next version of IOS.

    they've done it before, they'll do it again.


  • Dupa

    @accalia said:

    and is used exclusively by one compa

    Doesn't change the fact, that it's a great thing.


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @accalia said:

    and five will get you five and a penny that that cord will fail to work in the next version of IOS. randomly fail at some point in the future for absolutely no reason other than iTunes "cannot communicate with accessory", because sending an electrical signal over a piece of copper is SO FUCKING DIFFICULT!

    And that Dipslut will think this post is empty.


  • FoxDev

    @kt_ said:

    Doesn't change the fact, that it's a great thing.

    no, the fact that the company that makes it is so scummy it makes the mos eisley cantina look positively full of saints makes it a terrible thing.


  • Dupa

    @accalia said:

    no, the fact that the company that makes it is so scummy it makes the mos eisley cantina look positively full of saints makes it a terrible thing.

    😋


  • Dupa

    @Lorne_Kates said:

    randomly fail at some point in the future for absolutely no reason other than iTunes "cannot communicate with accessory", because sending an electrical signal over a piece of copper is SO FUCKING DIFFICULT!

    Hah! I don't use iTunes. It is a piece of shit. 😛


  • BINNED

    @accalia said:

    i generally go with "i clicked the amazon gift wrap option because i can't be assed to crossship the gift so i'll have amazon ship it", "i just sent it direct to your house from amazon", "you're lucky i wrote your name on the box", "butchers paper wrapping like it was porn", or "butchers paper wrapping with boobies and dicks drawn on it like it was very unsubtle porn" as my wrapping methods of choice.

    Have you and Weng tried buying gifts for people you actually like? 🛂


  • FoxDev

    @antiquarian said:

    Have you and Weng tried buying gifts for people you actually like? 🛂

    oh, that list was for the people i actually like.

    for the people they don't like i buy them massively inappropriate gifts that will get them into trouble with their wives/husbands, significant others, children, and/or family.

    bonus points if i can manage four for four in one gift!


  • BINNED

    @accalia said:

    for the people they don't like i buy them massively inappropriate gifts that will get them into trouble with their wives/husbands, significant others, children, and/or family.

    bonus points if i can manage four for four in one gift!

    The evil ideas thread is :arrows:.


  • FoxDev

    @antiquarian said:

    @accalia said:
    for the people they don't like i buy them massively inappropriate gifts that will get them into trouble with their wives/husbands, significant others, children, and/or family.

    bonus points if i can manage four for four in one gift!

    The evil ideas thread is :arrows:.

    oi! is mischievous idea, not evil idea!

    evil idea would be to accidentally address the outer package to their spouse, SO, children, family and include a lewd note to them inside the package..


  • BINNED

    @accalia said:

    oi! is mischievous idea, not evil idea!

    evil idea would be to accidentally address the outer package to their spouse, SO, children, family and include a lewd note to them inside the package..

    I stand corrected.


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @accalia said:

    evil idea would be to accidentally address the outer package to their spouse, SO, children, family and include a lewd note to them inside the package..

    • Get yourself something revealing
    • Take self-photos (cropping out face, other identifying marks)
    • Put on SD card
    • Put SD card into "new" camera
    • Gift camera to wife of dude you don't like

    👄


  • FoxDev

    i took an alignment test today at my lunch break. you know, the kind that say "lawful good" or "neutral evil"....it told me "Chaotic Chaotic"

    ... i'm not sure that's a valid allignment.


  • BINNED

    @accalia said:

    it told me "Chaotic Chaotic"

    ... i'm not sure that's a valid allignment.

    It's more of a signal to seek professional help.


  • Java Dev

    @accalia said:

    i worked retail long enough that there's no way you can convince me to head out into those crowds no matter what you offer me! (well, short of a very big bag of cash... or gems... or other reasonably fungible asset)

    I might have a fox treat in my pocket.


  • FoxDev

    @antiquarian said:

    It's more of a signal to seek professional help.

    well... i do have a visit to my therapist scheduled for next week...

    right now it's just to drop of a retaining check for the next three months, but she can probably fit in a quick session if you thin it's important


  • FoxDev

    @PleegWat said:

    I might have a fox treat in my pocket.

    it'll take more than one....


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @accalia said:

    oi! is mischievous idea, not evil idea!

    "not necessarily evil" implies evil some of the time.


  • FoxDev

    @FrostCat said:

    @accalia said:
    oi! is mischievous idea, not evil idea!

    "not necessarily evil" implies evil some of the time.

    well yes. when you toe the line sometimes you lose your balance and accidentally take a step over it to catch yourself from falling.



  • @accalia said:

    @PleegWat said:
    I might have a fox treat in my pocket.

    it'll take more than one....

    If it's what I think he's talking about, he only has one. It's reusable, but there's a short recharge time.


  • FoxDev

    @anotherusername said:

    It's reusable, but there's a short recharge time.

    that's a new trick.... how does he do that i wonder.....and why am i more than a little afraid to find out?



  • If you PM him and ask nicely, he might show you.


  • FoxDev

    @anotherusername said:

    If you PM him and ask nicely, he might show you.

    ah... that.

    that is not a fox treat. that's a chew toy, and those are not reusable once broken.


  • Java Dev

    You two have dirty minds. My emphasis was actually on might - all I've got in my pocket are my keys and my pocket knife.


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