Zecc's distant space hoes
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At that rate you may as well not even turn on the computer. Wouldn't want to void the warranty! Geez, what an expensive brick.
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What he's saying is, if you are tinkering with Windows, you're tinkering with shit
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Changing the desktop background is a supported feature. Resizing partitions probably isn't. I guess we just draw the line in different places.
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If resizing a partition is not a supported feature, why do they provide a tool to do it ?
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Because the disk Windows is on isn't the only disk allowed to be connected to the computer?
My point is, this is the first time I've ever heard of splitting Windows into multiple partitions *nix-style.
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Seen that multiple times in the past. Split drive in 2 parts : C for Windows, D for Data. That way, when you re-install Windows, your data is still intact on D.
You can even re-locate your MyDocument folder on D.
Also, when you first install Windows, you can choose the size of the partition you create.
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http://www.zdnet.com/article/dont-move-your-windows-user-profiles-folder-to-another-drive/ seems to suggest it's a bad idea.
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That's why I said "MyDocument", not the whole profile folder.
Just another bad architecture in Windows : Drive letters.
And drive A and B are reserved for Floppy drives.
In Unix, there is no drive letters. And your home folder can be anywhere : another partition, NFS mount, iSCSI, etc.
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In Unix, there is no drive letters.
And?
And your home folder can be anywhere : another partition, NFS mount, iSCSI, etc.
And?
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http://www.zdnet.com/article/dont-move-your-windows-user-profiles-folder-to-another-drive/ seems to suggest it's a bad idea.
yes it is a bad idea. The problem is, you can move almost anything to another drive and it will work just fine.
Until the drive fails (or becomes unavailable for some reason) and then a whole lot of stuff breaks so badly that getting things working again is a big PITA.
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Why not just put all the files in the cloud?
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Because you would still want (some of) them to be cached locally for speed of access and occasionally offline access. Chrome OS / Chromium OS does this - just ask @ben_lubar
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I can use Google Docs as a word processor online and have the things I type instantly sent to anyone else with that document open, or I can use Google Docs as a word processor offline and the files get automatically synchronized next time I'm online.
Things should degrade gracefully.
Heck, I've had singleplayer games that had more trouble running correctly when the internet went down than Google Docs did.
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And drive A and B are reserved for Floppy drives.
I have no idea where you got that retarded bullshit
In Unix, there is no drive letters. And your home folder can be anywhere : another partition, NFS mount, iSCSI, etc.
Which makes the os harder to use for most lay people. Drives letters in My Computer requires less OS knowledge to use.
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@TimeBandit said:
In Unix, there is no drive letters.
And?
And I can't run Disk Usage Analyzer on
/without it also looking at the contents of/mediaand/mnt, making it harder to analyze only the contents of the "root drive" without it also looking at other drives.Paths are also more annoying because they have a prefix of /media/zecc/{uuid} instead of two simple characters, unless I go through the effort of mounting or linking it somewhere else.
Minus two points to Linux.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Why not just put all the files in the cloud?
Can't afford the cloud insurance
edit: So cloud insurance is a real thing now
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And I can't run Disk Usage Analyzer on / without it also looking at the contents of /media and /mnt, making it harder to analyze only the contents of the "root drive" without it also looking at other drives.
That one, I give you, is fucking annoying.
Paths are also more annoying because they have a prefix of /media/zecc/{uuid} instead of two simple characters, unless I go through the effort of mounting or linking it somewhere else.
I get
/media/onyx/<partition label>when present. People being too lazy to set labels is another issue. And I don't mean for my benefit, but for their own. I get just as lost on Windows if I connect multiple drives / a drive with multiple partitions without labels as I do on *NIX. Be it UUID or a drive letter I still have no freaking clue which is which. Maybe you can remember the drive letters for removable drives. I can't, personally.
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Things should degrade gracefully.
Heck, I've had singleplayer games that had more trouble running correctly when the internet went down than Google Docs did.
Meanwhile, when I tried to use Google Spreadsheet offline, it erased the shit out of all my changes due to really shitty merging when it went back on again, and Google simultaneously erased ALL TRUST I HAVE IN THEIR SHITTY OFFICE PRODUCTS.
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When they make the postage stamp, do you think they'll use Skinny Obama or Fat Obama?
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And drive A and B are reserved for Floppy drives.
That hasn't been true for decades.
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I get /media/onyx/<partition label> when present. People being too lazy to set labels is another issue. And I don't mean for my benefit, but for their own. I get just as lost on Windows if I connect multiple drives / a drive with multiple partitions without labels as I do on *NIX. Be it UUID or a drive letter I still have no freaking clue which is which. Maybe you can remember the drive letters for removable drives. I can't, personally.
Partition labels are a sort of unique identifier. ;P But not universally unique, I'll give you that.
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Meanwhile, when I tried to use Google Spreadsheet offline, it erased the shit out of all my changes due to really shitty merging when it went back on again
Wasn't there a story or article about this happening to someone else?
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I can practically guarantee that is true.
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When they make the postage stamp, do you think they'll use Skinny Obama or Fat Obama?
It really depends. The PO is a union shop so they'll probably use one of those halo pictures the press loves to use. But if they wait too long to make the thing and the Cadillac Tax kicks in, it'll be that picture of him in mangled Muslim garb from like 10 years ago.
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And I can't run Disk Usage Analyzer on / without it also looking at the contents of /media and /mnt, making it harder to analyze only the contents of the "root drive" without it also looking at other drives.
Can't you still just open the [url=http://www.marzocca.net/linux/baobab/baobab-preferences.html#baobab-scan-preferences]preferences window[/url] and select which devices you want to scan? That seems a rather odd feature for be dropped for any reason.
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Partition labels are a sort of unique identifier. ;P But not universally unique, I'll give you that.
Pretty sure they're just a descriptive label. No unique constraints at all.
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drive A and B are reserved for Floppy drives
Mapping those over network shares, or using SUBST to map them over local folders, works just fine. Even helps create sane workflows for elderly accounting packages that assume A:\ is the only place anybody would ever want to save a backup to.
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When they make the postage stamp, do you think they'll use Skinny Obama or Fat Obama?
Obama appropriated black culture.
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I get just as lost on Windows if I connect multiple drives / a drive with multiple partitions without labels as I do on *NIX
Isn't it wonderful having all those "Removable Disk" devices with no label?
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About 4 or 5 weeks ago I would access my pc (HP Pavilion; Windows 8.1 Pro - note the HP I'll come back to that) after a long period of inactivity only to find it was running like a dog - 100% disk access, 98% memory in use. Long story short, it was searchindexer
I had a 1TB drive that was 80% full over half of which was archived files (disk images and files going back 15 or 20 years) which I rarely, if ever accessed. Some 2 or 3 million files (after I used this exercise to delete a load of stuff that had been duplicated or was irrelevant). Most of this was because I had retired an older computer that used to store them. Another long story short, I have now partitioned my drive and put those files on that. It is a minor
in that it is the same physical drive and disk performance has decreased. In addition (after spending hours watching disk file I/O) there are several "utilities" like Norton 360 and HP "health" that feel the need to investigate very single file - it can take 10 to 15 minutes for disk activity to died down after a reboot for example.I now have @500,000 files on my C drive. It has made a considerable difference to overall performance. The big
is that in the past I have always run with a small C drive, with only the stuff I have to have on it, on it. When I got this machine I resigned myself to "letting it do it's own thing".So yes, a small C Drive is a good thing.
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You could turn off search indexing, but I guess that's tinkering.
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@Zecc said:
Partition labels are a sort of unique identifier. ;P But not universally unique, I'll give you that.
Pretty sure they're just a descriptive label. No unique constraints at all.
(Within a single computer) The unique constraint is common sense.Which means you're right. There's no unique constraint at all.
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Agreed, and there are levesl of tinkering. For various raisins, atm, I like to keep my tinkering to what is available via included API's
SearchIndexing is "off", but that don't stop it. Apparently it is "constantly" in use for "core" files and folders. Through the supplied API's you can cause it to not index content for individual drives (including C). And you can select "some" folders to exclude or include etc.
I had to move my stuff around several times in order to place in locations I could "control". After the most recent time my preferences got reset, I made the decision to relocate them on another (logical - soon to be physical) drive.
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In Unix, there is no drive letters
Pop quiz: I choose to download a file in Unix to /downloads. Is that a folder on the root of my main drive or another drive?
Turns out it was another drive. I've now unplugged that drive and download another file, which defaults to /downloads. Where does that go?
Now I reconnect the drive. Where will navigating to /downloads lead me?
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Oh! Oh! I can try this quiz!
I choose to download a file in Unix to /downloads. Is that a folder on the root of my main drive or another drive?
Depends! What's the output ofmount?Turns out it was another drive.
I've now unplugged that drive and download another file, which defaults to /downloads. Where does that go?
Obviously it goes to /downloads. Where do you think it should go?Now I reconnect the drive. Where will navigating to /downloads lead me?
Depends. Did you attempt to re-mount it as /downloads? If so, then it takes you to /downloads. If not, then it takes you to /downloads.
Filed under: Sorry, could you repeat the question?
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What's the output of mount
/downloads.I'm not great at reading command prompt outputs, is that good?
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You save your files somewhere inside /home, and all your mounted external devices are in something like /mnt and /media
If you want to belgium with your system, you could as well use something like subst to make things confusing on windows too.
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You save your files somewhere inside /home, and all your mounted external devices are in something like /mnt and /media
This was a real example from when I used Mac OSX on a Mini with a small hard drive and a larger external drive for torrents and stuff. I plugged the drive in, it Just Worked. I went to start a torrent when the drive was off and suddenly I had a few tens of megabytes left on my primary drive and a new folder on the root of my primary drive. Realised what I'd done, turned the drive back on and tried to find the new folder to delete it, but it was nowhere to be found.
I'll take D:\someFolder over that shit any day
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Ubuntu wouldn't even give you permission to save in a /downloads folder without sudoing. Never used a mac though.
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Pop quiz: I choose to download a file in Unix to /downloads. Is that a folder on the root of my main drive or another drive?
Turns out it was another drive. I've now unplugged that drive and download another file, which defaults to /downloads. Where does that go?
Now I reconnect the drive. Where will navigating to /downloads lead me?
IIRC the mount just 'hides' the actual directory - I've heard of people hiding files underneath system mounts, for example.
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IRC the mount just 'hides' the actual directory -
correct, and it's possible to unhide the files without unmounting the mounted partition too.
I've heard of people hiding files underneath system mounts, for example.
yep.... i did tech support for my university and was surprised at what "inventive" people "hid" there.then i got a little older and was no longer surprised at the porn they tried to hide, nor at how badly their attempts were implemented.
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yep.... i did tech support for my university and was surprised at what "inventive" people "hid" there.
I learned that hidden folders is tantamount to uber hacking at my Junior High School.
Our school had a public drive for the students where we were expected to save our work. Of course, not everyone plays nice, so I sought to take protective measures by hiding my stuff in a hidden folder.A week later I was kicked from what was essentially a "how to type" class, because my actions were equivalent to a l33t haxor bent on crashing the school servers. They shoved me into Physical Education for the rest of the term.
Apparently, someone from before had locked up the server through a recursive batch script that created folders within folders until all the available descriptors were taken up, preventing the creation of files (I guess?) some time ago, and they thought I might possibly be the guy that did it.
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I learned that hidden folders is tantamount to uber hacking at my Junior High School.
Whole hidden servers are way more fun. Just sayin'âŚ
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I discovered a server the other day that we support but that no-one from our team knew existed let along even logged into in the last at lest 5-6 years.
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Whole hidden servers are way more fun
Yeah, I'm not sure (since I haven't checked), but they never did find that Windows 2003 server I installed in the corner of the computer lab at the ol' high school while I was there.
Of course, it did have a pretty convincing screen saver.good times. My programming teacher piggybacked onto my log-me-in session once after class and changed my desktop background to Strawberry Shortcake for craps and giggles. It was fun.
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Yeah, I'm not sure (since I haven't checked), but they never did find that Windows 2003 server I installed in the corner of the computer lab at the ol' high school while I was there.
We remotely reconfigured the school's office network to use a different server (the one for the public cluster; fortunately nobody knew jack shit about security then) and repurposed the office server for ⌠âinteresting software usesâ.
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The original Counter Strike mod for HL2?
Umm, I'm older than that. A full copy of the original Doom (just released!) was one of the things we added as we went along.
