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Or, at least, prefaced with a glaring disclaimer that it's unverifiable.
Except it's not. We can't do like a direct "your great*1524 grandfather was this fossil we found here" lineage, but it is a thoroughly verified fact that humans are decended from other primates.
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it is a thoroughly verified fact that humans are decended from other primates
Every human alive today is a primate. Every human alive today is the descendant of human parents, who were also primates. You are correct; your "thoroughly verified fact" is both thoroughly verified and fact. It is also
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You are the one with the
here. Homo sapiens sapiens as a species evolved from other primate species. This is a fact.
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Be more specific, then. You made the statement so generic that I could not disagree with it, thus,
.Let's clarify:
Homo sapiens sapiens as a species evolved from other primate species.
is a thoroughly verified fact, according to you?
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Yes.
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Science does not verify facts. It merely disproves things in order to remove them from the set of all possibilities, in that way we can eventually make educated and statistically likely assumptions.
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Well, yeah, but unscientific folks love using that as "WELL THERE'S A CHANCE THAT IT'S UNICORNS"
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strictly speaking, there in fact is an <abbr title"Yay quantum physics!">infinitely small chance that it IS unicorns
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Yes, but the aforementioned folks also have a tendency to not understand infinity and just say "whelp, it's probably unicorns"
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Do you really need centralized standards? Do the standards need to come from the government?
Isn't the whole point of CC that it came from a group of states without significant Federal involvement? The states that organized it are now exactly the states who claim it is a Federal imposition.
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Unless I told you that I've met the unicorn, and he told me he did it.
But then you'd just call me delusional or a liar. And unless you ever meet the unicorn too, you might as well be right.
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Actually, the 'real problem' with education in US, and for that matter everywhere else, is that it is misnamed. It is primarily a means of warehousing minors until they are able to fend for themselves, and secondarily about indoctrinating them in social skills. Education is little more than a justification that people use for it, and has only become an issue because the supposedly productive work which our society justifies providing for its citizens increasingly requires significant knowledge and training to complete, and it has been been making the illusion of private enterprise harder to maintain fnord.
Do You Believe That?™
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Isn't the whole point of CC that it came from a group of states without significant Federal involvement?
Yes.
The states that organized it are now exactly the states who claim it is a Federal imposition.
I honestly haven't followed it too closely, since my state has done the sane thing and not gotten involved. However, some googling shows that at the very least, the Feds are encouraging its adoption via money. Which is pretty much the only way that they could, assuming
slaveryfederalism is still a thing.
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I don't know what "school" you went to, but every school I've been in, despite being poor as fuck, has had a significant majority of the teachers focused on proper education. I guess that's what happens when you take honors/AP classes.
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I don't know what "school" you went to, but every school I've been in, despite being poor as fuck, has had a significant majority of the teachers focused on proper education. I guess that's what happens when you take honors/AP classes.
I think that it's possible to get a good education at an overall crappy school, as you did. My high school wasn't dirt poor, but it was mediocre at best. The kids who took the advanced courses and actually applied themselves did quite well, though.
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There was subsidized movies here, nothing worth watching was ever produced until it ended. There were comments from directors complaining that now they need a minimum of audience to keep going. tldr subsidized cinema and culture is a wtf and political propaganda
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The kids who ... actually applied themselves did quite well
QFT. Kids who want to learn learn, regardless of whether teachers help or get in the way. Kids who don't want to learn don't learn, regardless of whether teachers help or get in the way. Good teachers may be able to help turn some of the kids who don't want to learn into kids who do want to learn, but it's often an uphill battle.
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It's possible, but students shouldn't have to work with ten year old textbooks, desks that are falling apart, and teachers that are barely paid enough to live, and they should have access to adequate facilities to provide a well rounded education, including a decent athletics equipment, well-maintained and supplied art, music, and choir rooms, a respectable library, and labs for high schools.
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I agree, of course.
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Its interesting that americans are both our largest providers of science and the only reasonable nation were evolution and global warming denial is a thing.
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Is that a correlation or a causation?
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global warming denial
18 years and 8 months of no global warming, as reported by satellites. Meanwhile, warmistas are putting out maps showing how many feet deep Manhattan will be in water even under "extreme carbon limiting" scenarios, and only putting in fine print that these projected scenarios, if even realistic at all, are 200-2000 years out.
But the climate skeptics are the ones in denial, yes.
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Extraterritorial jurisdiction is typically only asserted in certain specific laws which are for particularly severe crimes. E.g. bans on sex tourism, murder, etc.
Yeah, I was aware of the child prostitution laws but so far I thought this required some specific legislation, like a paragraph tacked on saying "and by the way, we'll punish you even if we find you did this somewhere else". So that sounded a bit sweeping, although in the UK I wouldn't be surprised :)
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Hi there. Just popping into see if you have enough trolling to keep you busy for the rest of the week, or did you want me to mention AdBlock?
{reads next post}
teacher ... union ...
Never mind, looks like you've got the flamewar and vitriol covered in this thread. Moving on.
New York City's rubber rooms
Actually, I'll drop a fact AND fan the flames: the rubber rooms are a product of the school board & administration, not the unions. FACTS! OMG!
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Actually, I'll drop a fact AND fan the flames: the rubber rooms are a product of the school board & administration, not the unions. FACTS! OMG!
I don't care who's responsible for it. I care that it stop, which nobody in the system appears to.
[mic drop]
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I don't care who's responsible for it.
You should, if you want it to stop. Since yelling at the people who aren't in charge of them won't accomplish anything.
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Define "no", because 10 years of record lows of mass of the Arctic Ice Sheet and a steadily increasing rate of degeneration of the Greenland Ice Sheet, steadily rising sea levels, and steadily rising global temperatures sure as shit seems lime the opposite of "no" global warming to me.
Also, the one that puts most coastal cities and mucj of Florida partially underwater is estimated for 2100. And I personally ran the numbers on the Greenland Ice Sheet, and at the current acceleration of the melting rate, it will be gone by 2330. The second largest sheet of PERMAfrost in the world will be GONE in a few centuries.
OH, and Antarctica, the largest ice sheet in the world, which contains the vast majority of fresh water in the world, and the one ice sheet which everyone thought wasn't melting and all the climate change deniers used as proof that global warming isn't happening? Guess what. It's started to melt.
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Pfft. Those don't exist.
I know, in the blakey world the only recognized person is blakey.
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The question is, is it really okay to force 99% of people to give away their money for the benefit of 1%?
Uh, yeah. That's called Capitalism, and if you don't like it you can leave.
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The difference between capitalism and socialism is that in socialism, you can't leave.
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This is kinda fun.
OK, so first things first. I want to stress, that my argument wasn't based on presumption that TVP Kultura is not covering its cost. My whole argument was, that even if it didn't that doesn't (or shouldn't) matter.
It's important that shit like that is being made and it's important to give the creators certain amount of freedom and allow them not to worry about commercial success. That's especially important when it comes to movies, because they are quite costly. In the age when patronage isn't a big thing anymore, it's extremely important (although in Poland it's supposed to be coming back on).
Now, back to this whole subsidies thingy. TVP, as a public company, has a mission. This mission is to "propagate culture and cultural values". Now TVP wants to make money and mission comes in the way, so they cut such programs. Now they're not in line with their mission and even if they don't need to care about that, there are still some groups that demand them to fulfill it, politicians etc. If they weren't a public company, weren't subsidized, they could give a flying fuck, but since they are subsidized, they have some spare money and are required to act.
So yeah, some other entity could have started such a channel. But it was much more likely to be created in those circumstances.
If Breaking Bad had barely any publicity, would you subsidize it so it wouldn't die?
Nope. Why?Might be bad market research. Might be random factor. There are many reasons why they didn't do it, just like with everything else - widescreen TVs in the early 2000s, health regeneration in FPS games, trackpoint, autogas...
Sure. Or might be the fact that culture is barely making it even. Most theaters (playhouses) in Poland are dumbing down, so they can sell enough tickets to survive. There are just a few enterprises that are self-sustainable without dumbing down, only because they are subsidized, or in one case, because they have a patron.That, or someone was crazy enough to make an entire channel dedicated to culture because fuck you, that's why. And don't tell me it doesn't happen because it does happen.
Wasn't about to. I also wouldn't disagree if you told that "the sky is blue".Many successful companies were made out of crazy ideas. Hell, even in Poland we used to have entire TV channel dedicated solely to video games!
Wait a sec. Successful companies and we used to have an entire TV channel? It wasn't successful, then.There was subsidized movies here
Where is that?
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Related: there were more subsidized bad Polish movies than good Polish movies in total.
I know, 'cause there are waaay more subsidized movies in Poland than not. So what?
There are so many conspiracy theories about this movie that I don't really want to discuss it in any extent.
Really? First time I hear that, but I'm not big on following the news. What conspiracy theories could possibly be made around a piece of fiction?
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OK, so first things first. I want to stress, that my argument wasn't based on presumption that TVP Kultura is not covering its cost. My whole argument was, that even if it didn't that doesn't (or shouldn't) matter.
If I understand correctly, you want to continue giving them money even if they'd be perfectly fine without it?It's important that shit like that is being made and it's important to give the creators certain amount of freedom and allow them not to worry about commercial success. That's especially important when it comes to movies, because they are quite costly.
In the age when patronage isn't a big thing anymore
It was replaced by sponsorship, which is basically the same thing, with the differences being smaller than between a football and a basketball.it's extremely important
TVP, as a public company, has a mission.
You know who else had a mission? [spoiler]Crusaders.[/spoiler]This mission is to "propagate culture and cultural values".
It's funny that no one questions if it's propagating it in the right way, or even if it propagates the right values, or if it should propagate anything at all to start with.Now TVP wants to make money and mission comes in the way, so they cut such programs.
And then administrative court comes in play and punishes the people in charge for breaking the law. That, or the government completely abandons the idea of "mission", which isn't at all that obvious whether it's good or bad to have it.Nope. Why?
The question isn't why not to do something, but why to do something - in this case, folk music programmes. For some reason, subsidizing them is justified more than subsidizing Breaking Bad. Can you elaborate why? And no, calling me a troll who's deliberately oblivious to obvious differences between $THING_YOU_ARGUE_FOR and $THING_YOU_ARGUE_AGAINST is not a sufficient answer.Wait a sec. Successful companies and we used to have an entire TV channel? It wasn't successful, then.
Sun Microsystems was on the edge of bankrupcy and was ultimately overtaken by Oracle. Does it mean they weren't successful, back when they were making cash?I know, 'cause there are waaay more subsidized movies in Poland than not. So what?
So, subsidizing doesn't improve quality of movies. And it's very questionable whether it's good to spend ten million bucks on ten different movie if statistically only one of them becomes any good.Really? First time I hear that, but I'm not big on following the news. What conspiracy theories could possibly be made around a piece of fiction?
That Oscar-away-giving jury are Jews, for starters. And that's just the tip of an iceberg.
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That Oscar-away-giving jury are Jews, for starters. And that's just the tip of an iceberg.
Jews on the tip of an iceberg -- sounds like a dream of some.It's a mighty good movie, though.
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Jews on the tip of an iceberg -- sounds like a dream of some.
Another theory is that the icberg that Jews are on the tip of is named Poland. Shall I go on?
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Another theory is that the icberg that Jews are on the tip of is named Poland. Shall I go on?
OK, I get it. It's Gross.
Oh, and what's the raisins thing about?
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Oh, and what's the raisins thing about?
It's because those sentences read to me as if they ended with "because raisins".
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Where is that?
Elbonia | Dilbert Wiki | Fandom
Elbonia is an impoverished Eastern European country in the Dilbert universe. In the comic strip, and originally in the TV show, its major commerce was mud. There are also mentions of a currency...
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So a bit like?
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Instead, they sit them in a small office and pay them to stare at a wall, in the hopes that they will quit
What do I need to do to get that job? That's a fucking dream job.
Assuming I have either internet provided or at least cell network is reachable, and preferably a wall outlet (not mandatory, I can purchase spare battery to last me through the working day).
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Actually, I'll drop a fact AND fan the flames: the rubber rooms are a product of the school board & administration, not the unions. FACTS! OMG!
Yes, but aren't they a response to the union negotiated process to firing a teacher?
Why It Can Take Six Years to Fire an Inappropriate or Ineffective Teacher - PublicSchoolReview.com
Did you know it can take years to fire a public school teacher, even if the instructor is ineffective, has broken laws, or has acted inappropriately sexually towards students? Learn more about the teacher firing process and how it relates to the current debate raging on teacher tenure.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
You should, if you want it to stop. Since yelling at the people who aren't in charge of them won't accomplish anything.
Ok, it doesn't matter to me which particular set of incompetents and/or malcontents is the root of the problem: either way, the teachers, the administrators, and the unions should be putting a stop to this. But from what I've read, the unions are so focussed on "protect teachers at all costs" they fight to keep bad teachers in classrooms, and if they can't do that, they fight to keep 'em in rubber rooms instead of out on the street.
In the long term, that's not even good for the union, because it makes people dislike the union.
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Define "no",
How about "no net increase in average temperature"? It's right there in the chart. Ten years ago we were promised "no more snow in England". Manhattan should already have water licking up into the streets.
And in spite of the Greenland Ice Sheet--you do recall that local effects aren't climate, right?--last year or the year before, the Arctic ice pack had record growth.
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How about "no net increase in average temperature"?
The standard reaction of Climate Nazis is to look at some parameter that's less obvious than, say, temperature measurements and argue that it's consistent with their theory.
One of my favorites was when weather balloons (and any other direct measurement) failed to detect the predicted hot spot in the tropics, the theory was defended with an argument based on wind shear.
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look at some parameter that's less obvious than, say, temperature measurements
Meanwhile, the side that claims the mantle of Science! is busy acting like the Spanish Inquisition, going out of their way to silence critics, up to and including suggesting RICO or other charges. Good job, guys! Way to act like you're confident in your theory and can handle a debate.
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Oh yay. This.
Now we just need Cartman to come in here and say that gamergate causes climate change and this thread will be perfect.
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I think that, like with Beetlejuice, you have to say his name three times to summon him.
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Now we just need Cartman to come in here and say that gamergate causes climate change
Who needs Cartman when we have wikipedia?
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The standard reaction of Climate Nazis is to look at some parameter that's less obvious than, say, temperature measurements and argue that it's consistent with their theory.
One of my favorites was when weather balloons (and any other direct measurement) failed to detect the predicted hot spot in the tropics, the theory was defended with an argument based on wind shear.
This goes back to the falsifiability thing I brought up earlier. Climate science in its current state is not falsifiable and therefore just another
religionbelief system.the side that claims the mantle of Science! is busy acting like the Spanish Inquisition
Interesting choice of words (see above).
Now we just need Cartman to come in here and say that gamergate causes climate change and this thread will be perfect.
You mean it doesn't?
I think that, like with Beetlejuice, you have to say his name three times to summon him.
@cartman82, @cartman82, @cartman82!
Did it work?
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