In which I accidentally Windows 10
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@accalia said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
personally i just don't get what all the hate about windows 10 is.... is this another moving of the cheese issue?
Well, I think it's like sex. It can be a really enjoyable experience, but it is not when someone tries to force you into it (a.k.a. rape).
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@Lorne-Kates said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Microsoft aren't stupid.
Metro.
Works very well on a touchscreen
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@TimeBandit said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@accalia said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
personally i just don't get what all the hate about windows 10 is.... is this another moving of the cheese issue?
Well, I think it's like sex. It can be a really enjoyable experience, but it is not when someone tries to force you into it (a.k.a. rape).
:blink:
that...
:blink:
that's a particularly graphic and uncomfortable analogy to use.......
thank you for that.....
i think i'm going to see myself out now if it's all the same to you....... i think i'm done wondering why.....
do you have any brain bleach i could borrow for a bit?
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@El_Heffe said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Vista is beter than Windows 10. Seriously.
Are you sure you weren't accidentally huffing paint when you wrote that?
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@El_Heffe said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
GRC | Never10
Is Crazy Uncle Steve still writing all his software in 100% Assembler?
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@accalia said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
is this another moving of the cheese issue?
Mostly, because you see this EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Microsoft comes out with a new version. I remember it going all the way back to Windows 95, although there wasn't much fussing about 98 and 98SE, since not much changed, graphically.
Oh, and of course everyone freaks out because John C Dvorak or whoever hyperventilates about it stealing fingerprints and vital fluids.
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@FrostCat said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Mostly, because you see this EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Microsoft comes out with a new version.
so, what you're saying is all the complainers need to pull up their big girl panties and deal with it?
i could get behind that philosophy.
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@El_Heffe said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
although to the end user it certainly seems random and pointless.
Hm. Has anyone asked actual regular people, who haven't been scared by all the spittle-flecked tech journal coverage, what they think?
All kinds of techies raged about The Ribbon, but when I asked regular non-IT types, who were in and out of Office all day, most of them loved it when they got used to it.
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@Parody said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
. It sure is important that the place that stores up popup balloons we've all been safely ignoring overrides 20 years of muscle memory.
How often are you clicking on your clock?
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@accalia said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
r big girl panties
There's some kind of microaggression joke here but I CBA to figure out who to insult by making it.
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@FrostCat said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
How often are you clicking on your clock?
Oh. Ooops. You said clock with an
l
. My bad. Carry on there.
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@FrostCat said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
How often are you clicking on your clock?
Only occasionally to see the calendar, but I look at it quite a bit. Having it shoved an inch higher and stuck in the middle of a bunch of icons makes it harder to spot (or at least it does while I'm adjusting). I'd probably click it more in Windows 10 if I used the Calendar integration but I haven't wanted to set that up in the VM yet.
But hey, I see that Windows Defender wants to scan my computer again. ::sigh::
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@Parody said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Having it shoved an inch higher
Just how many rows high is your taskbar?
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@Parody said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Having it shoved an inch higher and stuck in the middle of a bunch of icons makes it harder to spot
Then pin it to the taskbar
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@FrostCat said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@Parody said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Having it shoved an inch higher
Just how many rows high is your taskbar?
It's on the left, so the entire height of the virtual monitor. When I have it on the bottom, it's one row high.
@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@Parody said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Having it shoved an inch higher and stuck in the middle of a bunch of icons makes it harder to spot
Then pin it to the taskbar
It's already on the taskbar, between the mostly unneeded on a desktop Touch Keyboard button and the almost completely unneeded Action Center button. I'd get rid of both normally, but I want them there for testing.
Added: I see nested quotes work well. :P
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@El_Heffe said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Unnecessary may be a better word.
Arbitrary and capricious?
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Guys! wish me luck. i'm about to get a force push of windows 10 on my work machine!
i'm so excited i can hardly contain myself!
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force push it
push it real good
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@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@Lorne-Kates said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Microsoft aren't stupid.
Metro.
Works very well on a touchscreen
Liar.
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@Parody said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
My favorite recent random unnecessary Windows 10 change is putting the new notifications button where the clock's been since Windows 95
Huh. I'd hadn't noticed that until you mentioned it... But on a touch screen, I like it better - it's easier to hit.
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@accalia said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Guys! wish me luck. i'm about to get a force push of windows 10 on my work machine!
Tell your IT guess Lorne says they're idiots.
edit of course i typo'd in a reply to accalia of course
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@Lorne-Kates said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@Lorne-Kates said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Microsoft aren't stupid.
Metro.
Works very well on a touchscreen
Liar.
At least I give things a fucking chance before writing them off.
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@Lorne-Kates i did. they flung poo at me and told me to pass it on.
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@Parody said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
But hey, I see that Windows Defender wants to scan my computer again. ::sigh::
I need to find the option that turns off the "hey, we scanned and found nothing" notification. Hmm. damn. Not in the Notification section... (build 14332)
edit: ahha. "Update & Security", "Windows Defender"
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@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
At least I give things a fucking chance before writing them off.
If I gave every new half-baked idea a chance "just in case" I'd never get work done.
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@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@accalia I can sum up 99% of all Windows hate ever. It's one of two things:
- The OS always gets the blame because it's an easy target, even when ten seconds will prove its innocence
- People hate change because raisins
- All these items are 1
I like to think all my complaints have fallen on the remaining 1%.
Also, "hate" is such a strong word. How about "disappointment"?
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@Lorne-Kates said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
At least I give things a fucking chance before writing them off.
If I gave every new half-baked idea a chance "just in case" I'd never get work done.
If all half-baked ideas were ignored, we wouldn't have landed on the Moon.
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@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
If all half-baked ideas were ignored, we wouldn't have landed on the Moon.
That wasn't a half-baked idea. It was a perfectly cromulent idea backed by thousands of man-years of knowledge and research.
Metro was something someone shat out because Steve Balmer said "I want Apple money"
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@accalia said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
personally i just don't get what all the hate about windows 10 is.... is this another moving of the cheese issue?
I only know 2 people (myself included) who did a Windows 7 to Windows 10 upgrade. Of those, 2 out of 2 Windows 10 installs had the Windows 10 Start menu (and all other Windows 10 apps) stop working within 45 days.
You'll have to excuse me if I refuse to use an OS with a 100% failure rate (of the computers I've looked at) in a major OS feature for upgrade installs.
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@Lorne-Kates said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
That wasn't a half-baked idea.
Did I say going to the Moon was a half-baked idea? Did I fuck.
Maybe you should read up on Robert Goddard and his liquid-fuel rockets.
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@powerlord said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
OS with a 100% failure rate
With a sample size that small, why is anyone claiming to have reliable statistics like this?
Next someone's going to quote, "Two out of two doctors say eating avocados is actually bad for you!" and the world will reel in horror!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
With a sample size that small, why is anyone claiming to have reliable statistics like this?
The question didn't ask for a reliable statistic. The question was why people hate on Windows 10. And that's why I hate it.
Who knows, maybe myself and my uncle who knows nothing about computers were unlucky, but Google seems to imply this is a rather common problem. That Microsoft has yet to fix.
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@powerlord said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Microsoft has yet to fix.
To be fair, IME Upgrade installations are always more error prone than clean installs. Just that the masses never really tried it before MS made it a requirement to at least try.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@powerlord said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Microsoft has yet to fix.
To be fair, IME Upgrade installations are always more error prone than clean installs. Just that the masses never really tried it before MS made it a requirement to at least try.
The problem is that Microsoft is trying to trick people into doing these upgrade installs. They are, in fact, the most common Windows 10 install type.
So, if something associated with Upgrade installs is fucking up, Microsoft should fix the fucking problem before continuing to trick more people into installing.
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@dcon said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
I need to find the option that turns off the "hey, we scanned and found nothing" notification.
Most of those, you right-click on the notification itself, and you get a popup with "turn off notifications for this program".
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@powerlord said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
the fucking problem
is that PCs are a snowflakey as all the different devices that support Android, even doubly so due to ability to swap around hardware willy nilly at the manufacturer's whims with only few exceptions.
If everyone only had one type of PC, then MS could focus on only the software side, and if everyone only ran one particular set of applications, then the job is practically done before it starts.
Sound like the model of a certain fruit company TBH...
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@dcon said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@Parody said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
My favorite recent random unnecessary Windows 10 change is putting the new notifications button where the clock's been since Windows 95
Huh. I'd hadn't noticed that until you mentioned it... But on a touch screen, I like it better - it's easier to hit.
But do you want/need to hit it? :)
A lot of these things Microsoft's been doing, like swapping the clock and the new notifications button, have been pretty minor annoyances. They are, however, more reasons to not move off of Windows 7 on my main machine. XP again indeed.
Over on my convertible tablet (originally on 8, now on the release version of 10) I can do a lot more customizing and thus turn off/override/etc. the things that bug me.
Speaking of upgrading, my tablet's path from 8 to 8.1 to 10 were in-place upgrades and have worked out fine. I should do a clean install to recover the original restore partition's storage space, but overall I'm 1 for 1. I don't plan on doing in-place upgrades with Windows 7 machines, though.
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@Parody said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
tablet's path from 8 to 8.1 to 10 were in-place upgrades and have worked out fine
Yes, since 8, the upgrade functionality is mostly working fairly good. In fact, that's the defacto method of installing the next version of Windows 10 builds now.
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@Tsaukpaetra I wish it was a little smoother just because it takes so long to upgrade the VM, but it works out pretty well once you've got a stable setup.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@powerlord said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
the fucking problem
is that PCs are a snowflakey
If everyone only had one type of PC, then MS could focus on only the software side
Or . . . . . . Hardware manufacturers could build hardware, and write drivers for that hardware, that aren't complete shit. And software developers could follow documented specs and write software that isn't complete shit.
But then, this place wouldn't exist.
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@El_Heffe said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Hardware manufacturers could build hardware,
ok...
and write drivers for that hardwarfe,
still sounds good...
that aren't complete shit
Damn, there goes that dream...
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@bb36e said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
4\. there's a shitton of bugs and annoyances.
5\. fuck breaking things that (most of the time) work fine.- Why are you making bulleted lists
- harder than they need to be?
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@loopback0 said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
You know what makes GWX go away? Installing Windows 10.
And after you installed Win10, you get all kinds of Try Office, Skype, Groove or else advertisement notifications instead.
What's more confusing? You get almost daily "You have software updates available" notification that, when you open the marketplace App to check, shows all Apps you have are latest version. I still cannot figure out what that notification points to as clicking it won't launch relevent Apps as one might have expected.
Now choose your poison.
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@RaceProUK said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
Did I fuck.
I don't know, but @accalia might.
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@cheong said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@loopback0 said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
You know what makes GWX go away? Installing Windows 10.
And after you installed Win10, you get all kinds of Try Office, Skype, Groove or else advertisement notifications instead.
Now choose your poison.
You get a free* install of Candy Crush Saga with no way to remove it from your purchase history.
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@ben_lubar wait I thought that's how I'm supposed to do custom numbering in md?
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@bb36e maybe in Discourse's broken version.
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@El_Heffe said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
aren't complete shit.
Humanity is faith you would have unrealistic.
@bb36e said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
wait I thought that's how I'm supposed to do custom numbering in md?
Only if it's not supposed to be sequential after the first item.
10. It's fine
1. but really it's not
99. Because raisins.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
@El_Heffe said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
aren't complete shit.
Humanity is faith you would have unrealistic.
@bb36e said in In which I accidentally Windows 10:
wait I thought that's how I'm supposed to do custom numbering in md?
Only if it's not supposed to be sequential after the first item.
10. It's fine
1. but really it's not
99. Because raisins.- It's fine
- but really it's not
- Because raisins.