:wtf: How can this be so wrong??? (AKA the Discopocalypse thread)
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Well, that doesn't sound like what I meant to say...
Shit gets installed by Bundler, then made in to a Docker container?
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I feel like the answer we are going to end up with is, "It should work fine, but they thought they knew better and fucked up the whole process with their fiddling".
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"It should work fine, but they thought they knew better and fucked up the whole process with their fiddling"
That's Ruby all over. Lots of energy (and I'm pretty envious of some of the things they've done with it) but nowhere near enough good sense when it comes to using stuff sensibly.
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Bundler makes that dead simple.
Hahahahahaha... no.
I tried. Wasted two hours trying to set it up in their own Ubuntu VM. Gave up.
I just might suck. I might be stupid. Well, actually, yes, I am stupid. But I'm not completely incompetent when it comes to setting this kind of shit up. I deployed countless PHP hellstews, a couple of Python things, even some messed up Java apps running on Tomcat. I compiled shit from source and dealt with broken dependencies in third party packages. I may have fumbled a bit at times, but I got it all up, working, and working well.
Ruby? I tried installing Discourse and Redmine. I gave up on both after a while.
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You had issues with Redmine? Damn, maybe I am wired wrong, because I found it dead simple to setup and we built one of our supporting applications off of it.
I can accept being TRWTF. It is how I live my life.
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I may have made the mistake of using my package manager to install Ruby? Maybe the version wasn't compatible because reasons?
Don't know, don't really remember what didn't work, I just remember it being a pain and me giving up because it wasn't that crucial for me to run it.
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@Maciejasjmj said:
You want to maintain that Ruby hellstew?
No, but I am usually up for twisting a knife in Dickwoods side.
A fork would allow someone who really wanted to a chance to rewrite some of the hellstew.
Unless you just mean Ruby. I know a lot of people don't like it but I don't get the hate.
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This post is deleted!
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A fork would allow it but given how complex the app seems to be, who of us would want to take on that?
I get the impression it would be easier to build from scratch than to figure out WTF is going on under the hood.
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Part of me thinks, let's make a fork just to spite Jeff. Another part of me says "burn it with fire".
Also, I think our potential fork should be called Disco horse, or maybe something that doesn't give Jeff free publicity.
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Or drop the disco and just call it "horse"
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And then set the horse on fire?
Filed Under: sounds like a good plan to me
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Personally, I like the name Disco Horse. Especially when I imagine how the logo will look like.
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... where did @Dischorse go?
@PJH @boomzilla - assume it got deactivated but it says it doesn't exist if I try and reset the password?
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No idea. Have you spelled it correctly?
Discourse deactivates short-lived accounts IIRC...
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Yup.
Thought I'd got it wrong so copied it from the SockBot config which worked 3 months ago but still no dice.edit: Maybe Discourse deleted it, then. It wasn't that short-lived. Had 0 posts but had liked most of T-1000. Oh well, nevermind.
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-2; lacks bellbottoms and acid.
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We don't have to be mature all the time, right?
Start at 0:55 ;-)
Doctor Who - Robot (Final Scene) – 02:42
— AlexBTV
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And this is from @arantor so.... Yeah.
Filed Under: Toxic Hellstew Maintainer is his middle name or something
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I prefer "PHP enthusiast-masochist" but "toxic hellstew maintainer" is my second choice.
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Actually, this is the X-mas Goat that the friendly people of Gävle/Sweden build every year. It's been a tradition that someone sets fire to it nearly every year as well. I think you can bet money on the day it will burn, kind of like the alaskan ice lottery.
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I like how it's been set fire to almost every year - except the year it didn't, and the year someone drove a Volvo at it instead.
How Swedish
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A Saab would have been more fitting.
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That article is a treasure trove of s.
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There was an englishman who set fire to it one year. His defence: "I thought it was a local tradition and I wanted to join in".
My bad; the linked article claims he was american.
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I'm a fucking ninja.
That's why.
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After reading that, after seeing what I've seen.
His post sounds like a joke, and I can't trust anything he posts anymore.
And honestly, if I have to explain this to you, guess what? You're screwed.
What, no?
This is an article. That's the point of the article, to explain.
And just to show that it is possible to do succinctly.
If you aren't living in the software you're building, each day, every day, all day, then you won't experience the frustrations your users experience firsthand, and then you won't care as much as they do. -- Me
You see, writing good articles that explain things, with little more effort than you put into it, is possible.
You just think so highly of yourself, that you don't even have to explain...
God.... I fucking hate even talking about how bad that shit is.
I'm going back to sleep.
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You want to maintain that Ruby hellstew? I'm not very inclined to...
We should just re-write it in PHP
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Also, I think our potential fork should be called Disco horse, or maybe something that doesn't give Jeff free publicity.
We could go with one of the several names we've come up with, like "Duckhorse".
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So I've still been checking out meta.d, just to keep an eye out for anything that might be of interest to us. This morning I got there, and I wasn't logged in. Figuring they finally remembered me, I tried logging in to see what my suspension looks like, but my credentials weren't accepted. Fine, it's been a while, maybe I forgot my password. Let's try resetting:
I guess they didn't like me calling them out for the wholesale ban of our forum in my bio.
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memory hole
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On the plus side... at least you're not suspended.
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I'm still suspended.
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I guess they didn't like me calling them out for the wholesale ban of our forum in my bio.
CDCK really are not taking this at all well.
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https://meta.discourse.org/users/anon25879736/activity/mentions
there we go!Sweet. I've never followed up on an anonymized user. I wonder if you can log in there? Might require a password reset.
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Sweet. I've never followed up on an anonymized user. I wonder if you can log in there? Might require a password reset.
Looks promising so far:
No email yet.
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Except I think the email got set to anon25879736@example.com. I looked at one here, and that's what happened:
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Yeah, I followed up by trying a reset using the email address I had signed up with, and it said that there were no accounts associated with that email. Still, it's odd that password reset attempts are even allowed on anon accounts.
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Except I think the email got set to anon25879736@example.com. I looked at one here, and that's what happened:
That is pants on head retarded.
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Still, it's odd that password reset attempts are even allowed on anon accounts.
^ What he said.
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@boomzilla said:
Except I think the email got set to anon25879736@example.com. I looked at one here, and that's what happened:
That is pants on head retarded.
Eh, not really. I mean, not the feature itself. It's meant to be a way to kill a user account without having to rip all of their posts out of the DB. You can't delete users after a while, unless you delete their posts. Or something. The details aren't all that important, I think. It would have been retarded if they hadn't changed the email address, which could have allowed the anonymized user to get back in.
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I'm not going to claim that we were angels in this matter, we're not by any means, but....
I'm sorry. when exactly did this whole thing become 6 year olds fighting over who is allowed into the clubhouse?
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Well, it is definitely hacky.
I suppose in reality it is the same as sending them to /dev/null, but still seems like a hideous wart of a hack.
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Yeah. It would make sense to disable the account. Blocked / suspended / whatever. But the end result is identical here.