In other news today...
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@DogsB Valve don’t need to review the games for relevancy or quality. They just need to slow down the absolute bollocks.
There was a time getting onto Steam was earned, not just at the end of “pay $99 and you’re in”. Even Greenlight was better than this shitshow.
See, what you get are utter clown faces that make a single game and then change the graphics and call it a sequel. Some of these clowns also split each level of the game into a new game so they can pump out a dozen games in a fraction of the time.
The other problem is that Kotaku etc will take the obvious hot releases for reviews because that’s a traffic driver - no one seriously cares about reviewing lots of indie titles because there’s no ad revenue in it.
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@Arantor Yeah and Valve got shit on for that too. Maybe a couple of grand up front and giving back their cut until 100 might solve some of the problem? Some indies might be priced out but be able to crowd-source it. It would cut a lot of cruft though.
Ninty and Sony have similar problems too exacerbated by terrible search functionality and organization. It's the same with music and it's out of control with AI-written books now on Amazon.
It just irks me that the writer is trying to push it onto the storefront when it's not in their interest to do so and realistically can't do it. The same writer will pillor the storefront for any botched attempt to fix the problem. It's a no-win for the storefront.
The best Valve can probably do is tag and organize. Then offer a way for the users to curate themselves by searching for what they like and falling back on their social networks and media to find something interesting to play.
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@DogsB honestly, pricing out the very bottom rung to clear the cruft is a choice I’d be fine with. Itch is always there for anyone to publish on, so…
Have Valve put enough controls in to stop the worst shit yet? There was a point that you could get through the setup process, get a game live on the store and the bundle didn’t even need to have an executable file in it.
The thing about a store is that the store can choose what it wants to sell - it does not have to offer all things, it does not have to offer all things if you meet an arbitrary barrier (and honestly, Greenlight wasn’t conceptually awful, it was abused by the groups that would do key giveaways in exchange for upvotes that meant utter shit got voted for)
All the time Steam sells everything without any apparent oversight, they’re actually hurting their own image to some degree. As I said, I remember when “we made it into Steam” meant something, and maybe it should mean something again.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
Have Valve put enough controls in to stop the worst shit yet? There was a point that you could get through the setup process, get a game live on the store and the bundle didn’t even need to have an executable file in it.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
Have Valve put enough controls in to stop the worst shit yet? There was a point that you could get through the setup process, get a game live on the store and the bundle didn’t even need to have an executable file in it.
Hey, the Linux build got fixed...!! ..... Eventually!
Too bad some Windows Update broke the server, it would technically still be accessible today.
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Italian influencer accused of fraud! What next? I think we have to start associating the term influencer with advertisement platform. Maybe then people will start hating them enough.
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@DogsB no, they won’t.
Seriously, how can you read the term “influencer” and not by that already be repulsed. Why anyone would listen to them voluntarily is beyond me, nevermind people bragging about being an influencer like it’s a respectful job title.
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@topspin same philosophy that allows people who use ChatGPT to produce creative works to call themselves prompt engineers as 'AI artists'.
A little more humility would go a long way.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
A little more humility would go a long way.
Humility is anathema to most of our modern society.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
A little more humility would go a long way.
Humility is anathema to most of our modern society.
I know but the odd dose of it might help a few things along.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
I think we have to start associating the term influencer with advertisement platform.
I worked at a company that used influencers. Company small enough that the details of this cooperation was known to employees.
Influencers are an advertisement platform and literally nothing else.
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
Influencers are an advertisement platform and literally nothing else.
They are a brown smear on soft, white paper.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
Humility is anathema to most of our modern society.
I take pride of my own humility.
...Wait.
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@Zecc said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
Humility is anathema to most of our modern society.
I take pride of my own humility.
...Wait.
I’m even more humble than that.
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Good news! You know only have to work four twelve-hour days now!
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
I think we have to start associating the term influencer with advertisement platform.
I worked at a company that used influencers. Company small enough that the details of this cooperation was known to employees.
Influencers are an advertisement platform and literally nothing else.Seriously, does anyone actually think anything else? I mean, the word "influencer" itself is pretty clear!
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@Kamil-Podlesak my reaction to reading influencer is the same as if they’d call themselves “manipulator”, or “propaganda officer”. Don’t know why everyone else isn’t put off by them.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak my reaction to reading influencer is the same as if they’d call themselves “manipulator”, or “propaganda officer”. Don’t know why everyone else isn’t put off by them.
Yes, kinda, but I don't really see the political connotation (also, that word already exists: "pundit").
I have always seen it more as a "one-man Advertisement Agency". Kinda like "blacksmith" is "one-man thyssenKrupp" or "baker/conditioner" is "one-man Nestlé"
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
but I don't really see the political connotation
There's none, I was just going for something off-putting.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@Zecc said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
Humility is anathema to most of our modern society.
I take pride of my own humility.
...Wait.
I’m even more humble than that.
Are you trying to top medieval catholic clerics now?
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@BernieTheBernie said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@Zecc said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
Humility is anathema to most of our modern society.
I take pride of my own humility.
...Wait.
I’m even more humble than that.
Are you trying to top medieval catholic clerics now?
Junieval, medieval, senieval, I’ll top all the levels of Catholic clerics.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
I’ll top all the levels of Catholic clerics.
Kink thread is .
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak my reaction to reading influencer is the same as if they’d call themselves “manipulator”, or “propaganda officer”. Don’t know why everyone else isn’t put off by them.
Yes, kinda, but I don't really see the political connotation (also, that word already exists: "pundit").
I have always seen it more as a "one-man Advertisement Agency". Kinda like "blacksmith" is "one-man thyssenKrupp" or "baker/conditioner" is "one-man Nestlé"
How do you feel about "loudmouth".
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Ubisoft telling players to get used to subscribing for games.
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@Arantor I briefly searched for Ubisoft to remind me what they'd done recently. Saw Far Cry 6, AssCreed Valhalla and Anno 1800.
Clearly they dropped the numbering on AssCreed games, but I'm surprised to see that they've kept the numbering for Anno through 1800 different titles...
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@cvi there’s been another AssGreed (Mirage) since then and they’re in the process of necromancing the Prince of Persia franchise.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
Ubisoft telling players to get used to subscribing for games.
Hey, Ubisoft
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I haven't bought a Ubi game since AssGrind Odyssey but this just incentivises me not to ever again.
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@Arantor I think the only Ubisoft games I've bought are the FarCry games. If the next one was subscription only I'd probably subscribe for long enough to play it.
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@Arantor Odyssey was the last one I tried. I was tempted by Valhalla a few times, but Odyssey put me off it each time. It's something about the AssCreed games that just makes them seem like a chore after a bit. Odyseey was especially bad. (It wasn't the first to do the whole "you need to skin 15 whole elephants to upgrade your coin pouch" thing, but IIRC it was pretty bad on that front.)
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@cvi Origins and Odyssey really did the grind mechanic, or, 'you can skip the grind for in-game currency which is annoyingly hard to get in game but we'll happily sell you for actual money'
I didn't even look at Valhalla to see if that kept the grind or not, Odyssey broke me on enjoying the series.
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@Arantor Yeah, the grind was bad (and uninteresting). But, it wasn't just that, it was also constantly breaking immersion. I don't remember which game it was, but one of them required you to kill a bunch of whales to upgrade something minor (might have been a coin or ammo pouch). I remember thinking "wtf do we need several whole whales for that for? poor things - this is kinda unnecessary". That's not a line of thinking I often have in games.
Either way, one of the other problems was the map being cluttered with shit by default. Some of it one could turn off, at least temporarily. But, yeah, too busy for my taste, too grindy, and constantly pushing you something premium. Fuck that.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
I haven't bought a Ubi game since AssGrind Odyssey but this just incentivises me not to ever again.
I swear this post read AssGreed Odyssey when first displayed.
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@izzion The previous post but one was AssGreed (Mirage) and I first wrote it as AssGreed Odyssey but changed it before saving, so no edit history. It struck me as funnier because it was the grindathon in Odyssey specifically that soured me, and Grindssey wasn't as funny.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
kill a bunch of whales
black flag or rogue probably ... the only ones I actually played. My daughter fished them out of a barging bin for her Switch and we did them together.
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@izzion said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
I haven't bought a Ubi game since AssGrind Odyssey but this just incentivises me not to ever again.
I swear this post read AssGreed Odyssey when first displayed.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
I remember thinking "wtf do we need several whole whales for that for? poor things - this is kinda unnecessary".
For real? Meat and oil.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
For real? Meat and oil.
In the game ... there it gets you a bigger ammo pouch (or similar) and nothing else.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@dkf said in In other news today...:
For real? Meat and oil.
In the game ... there it gets you a bigger ammo pouch (or similar) and nothing else.
Well yeah, but I didn't think mentioning that was interesting.
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It's pronounced skone and you put cream on first. Fight me.
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@DogsB the only fighting I’m doing over scones is getting mine before everyone else eats them all. It’s clearly pronounced scone, and the people who pronounce it scone are wrong. Jam, cream, whichever first would make you happiest - I too am a cream first person but jam first is finel
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@DogsB the only fighting I’m doing over scones is getting mine before everyone else eats them all. It’s clearly pronounced scone, and the people who pronounce it scone are wrong. Jam, cream, whichever first would make you happiest - I too am a cream first person but jam first is finel
Could you please reach some conclusion? I using the word in a translation of common saying in my mother tongue: "some men like hoes, other men like scones"
Do I need to start over? The closes current english idioms "whatever floats your boat" or "no kink shaming" do not have the same edge...Edit: Also, I am definitely a "scone" guy
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
It's pronounced skone and you put cream on first. Fight me.
Either pronunciation is fine but jam first.
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@Kamil-Podlesak the official answer is that both are acceptable to the current dictionary. As for cream or jam first this depends where you are.
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If I wasn't so busy researching mustache grooming I would burn this forum to the ground.
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@DogsB that seems a bit harsh. I feel like there are other, more deserving hives of scum and villainy than this.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
more deserving hives of scum and villainy than this
there is one place that is conveniently marked by a big X
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
If I wasn't so busy researching mustache grooming I would burn this forum to the ground.
Thank heaven for small miracles.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
If I wasn't so busy researching mustache grooming I would burn this forum to the ground.
Thank heaven for small miracles.
On the flip side if this were burned to the ground, neither admins nor mods would have to do anything. Like in action.