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@dcon This video shows the ship apparently losing power at least once,
maybetwice, just before the collision. After they regained power, they were apparently trying to stop, but in a way that caused them to veer off-course. (TIL that if you "back down" a ship, you lose directional control.) Neither reverse thrust nor dropping anchor were enough to stop the ship before the collision.
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
@Mason_Wheeler said in In other news today...:
I was struck by how quickly it all fell (the video in that article is sped up).
Here the video leading up to the accident, with commentary by someone who understand ships:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZbUXewlQDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N39w6aQFKSQ
The key point here is that the ship lost all power a couple of minutes before hitting the bridge. The power was restored, but blowing a lot of black smoke from the stack suggests it still had some engine problems. They tried to stop, but lost control in the process—which is not very surprising, reversing and steering don't go together well in ships.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
They tried to stop
But 100000 tons don't stop quickly. They dropped from about 8.7 knots (10.0 mph, 16.1 km/h) to 7.6 knots (8.7 mph, 14.1 km/h) before the impact, but that's still 690 MJ (0.5 * 9.1E+7 kg * (3.9 m/s)2) of kinetic energy hitting the bridge support.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
TIL that if you "back down" a ship, you lose directional control.
Well, it makes sense. The rudder is usually behind the propeller, which means that when the propeller is running forward, it accelerates the water onto the rudder, increasing its efficiency, but the downside is that when it is running in reverse, it is pulling water from around the rudder, reducing its efficiency instead.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
Maybe should try an exorcism sometime. Feel bad for the devils and demons trapped here with me. Inhumane working conditions and all that.
I really want to filter folks needing one, gather up the fuckers so we can have some good clean fun. The screamy ones not so much, the violent ones can be handled by the gentle looking men. Floaters would be nice too...
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
admittedly blue is a superior color to green1
Green is not a creative colour, after all.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
Well, yes, it gets turned on by default in the Android messaging app.
I checked my phone. It's disabled. I don't think I ever messed with it, so that should be the default setting.
Wikipedia has a list of providers with RCS support. The three last providers I've been on aren't listed. It could be out of date, but it lists one provider that discontinued RCS end of 2023; following through to their page mentions that almost nobody used it.
Reading a bit more about it ... seems there's some sort of Goolge-supported franken-version of it?
Not here. In Europe you get to keep your number when changing carriers.
If you move inside of a country. You don't get to keep your number moving to a different country.
It is better for people with whom you have established connection. For people who have your phone number just in case, to send you a notification once something is done and similar, using something that is a standard part of the telecom network is much easier than dealing with dozens of äpps.
As much as I dislike Whatsapp, it seems to have taken that role.
Also: Just send me an email.
RCS is a standard by the GSM Alliance. That is, it should be interoperable across all carriers (now, there were some early versions that were not), like SMS are.
RCS via Google servers doesn't seem like it would be part of the telecom network.I checked a handful of different (European) countries, and they had one (or no) carriers with native RCS support. Definitively a minority.
Email-based accounts may be telco-agnostic, but they are not email-provider-agnostic, and unlike phone numbers, which can be made transferable, email address can't be. Making email-based accounts strictly worse in this regard.
On the other hand, email addresses are not bound to a single country. And, while not a general solution, you can always get your own domain. Or pay someone with a domain to forward them to where ever your "account" ends up.
Edit:
There's MMS. As far as I can tell, they do work by uploading the image or whatever to some server and sending a link via SMS. And they are also interoperable across all carriers.
Yeah, but nobody uses MMS (thank the Omnissiah!).
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
I didn't think anyone still used SMS for communicating between people but here we are.
Why not? It's universal and doesn't require mobile data
Funny thing that. My parents' phones seem to stop receiving/sending SMS when mobile data is disabled. Fuck knows why...
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@HardwareGeek I've heard Anish Kapoor is legally forbidden from using it
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
Yeah, but nobody uses MMS (thank the Omnissiah!).
Oh yeah? Any group chat I'm in warns me that it's using MMS when I send an image.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
shows the ship apparently losing power at least once, maybe twice, just before the collision
says
Though the lights came back on using an emergency generator activated after the initial blackout, the ship's engine never turned back on.
According to Diamond, the pilot of the ship gave a string of appropriate orders, both calling for a hard rudder to port and for the anchor to be dropped.
He was also the one to call for the shutdown of traffic to the bridge when he realized the threat.
They dropped the left anchor and tried to steer to avoid veering to the right, but without propulsion and power for the bow thrusters the ship isn't really controllable.
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@Mason_Wheeler said in In other news today...:
Seems the bridge could have made use of an old classic:
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“I don’t think 99% of people in America would ever stop to think, ‘What would I do if I woke up tomorrow and all access to digital media disappeared?’
What wingding wrote this article? That's almost happened twice in the last year. If you like a peice of media, buy a physical copy of it or back it up to a harddrive.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
This is strictly a dumb-kids-who-are-apparently-too-immature-to-have-phones problem.
You'll be happy to know that under-14s have just been banned from social media in Florida. Not from SMSs yet. But give it time.
Green is still a good color though, which is why I’m proposing to change it to something way worse.
Apple's messages could add a small gold, silver or bronze medal depending on how new the sender's iPhone model is. But this would be blatant enough to actually warrant a court case.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
Apple's messages could add a small gold, silver or bronze medal depending on how new the sender's iPhone model is. But this would be blatant enough to actually warrant a court case.
It would be stupid, extremely vain, and maybe a privacy problem. The “social stigma” part of it would still be none of the DOJ’s business.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
“I don’t think 99% of people in America would ever stop to think, ‘What would I do if I woke up tomorrow and all access to digital media disappeared?’
What wingding wrote this article? That's almost happened twice in the last year. If you like a peice of media, buy a physical copy of it or back it up to a harddrive.
The point stands though: just because access to digital media was revoked in multiple ways across multiple platforms in the last year, people don’t generally consciously think too hard about things they don’t think are likely to happen.
Like “Apple has my media library and they’re not going anywhere” type things. That said WB’s shenanigans in particular should have been a wake up call to people.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
“I don’t think 99% of people in America would ever stop to think, ‘What would I do if I woke up tomorrow and all access to digital media disappeared?’
What wingding wrote this article? That's almost happened twice in the last year. If you like a peice of media, buy a physical copy of it or back it up to a harddrive.
The point stands though: just because access to digital media was revoked in multiple ways across multiple platforms in the last year, people don’t generally consciously think too hard about things they don’t think are likely to happen.
Like “Apple has my media library and they’re not going anywhere” type things. That said WB’s shenanigans in particular should have been a wake up call to people.
I have this conversation with my sister every now and then.
why do you have harddrives with your movies and music on them. We have netflix, prime, shudder and spotify.
Because they're commies that will steal my shit if I don't have a copy myself.It use to be a lecture about licenecing, not actually owning shit and they could disappear at any time but it gets boring after the third time.
*edit wasn't one of the first documented occurances Amazon with 1984? You couldn't make that up.
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@DogsB yup, it was indeed 1984.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
shows the ship apparently losing power at least once, maybe twice, just before the collision
says
Though the lights came back on using an emergency generator activated after the initial blackout, the ship's engine never turned back on.
According to Diamond, the pilot of the ship gave a string of appropriate orders, both calling for a hard rudder to port and for the anchor to be dropped.
He was also the one to call for the shutdown of traffic to the bridge when he realized the threat.
They dropped the left anchor and tried to steer to avoid veering to the right, but without propulsion and power for the bow thrusters the ship isn't really controllable.
One article around here quoted an expert who was mildly surprised since there are always underwater obstacles to stop and/or divert ships getting too close to the pier, and the ship shouldn't have been able to hit the pier at sufficient speed to cause this kind of damage.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Because they're commies
Because they're cappies, surely?
True, but there's better memes about commies and I'm not bucking a trend.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
@dkf said in In other news today...:
Because they're cappies, surely?
True, but there's better memes about commies and I'm not bucking a trend.
File the serial number off and you can repurpose that meme with little to no effort.
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@dcon said in In other news today...:
I was struck by how quickly it all fell (the video in that article is sped up).
No, the bridge was struck and then it all fell.
I'm not that surprised, after reading aboout it. The ship collided with one of the main span pillars and the design was of the type that if part of the construction would fail, all of it would fail as the entire central spans (the ones held up by the truss) would no longer be able to carry its own weight. It did bring down some extra spans on the far side from the crash, though.
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@Atazhaia said in In other news today...:
No, the bridge was struck and then it all fell
No, Fell was on the bridge when Al was struck.
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@Atazhaia said in In other news today...:
It did bring down some extra spans on the far side from the crash, though.
The three main spans were connected by the girder box, so of course one falling would pull down the rest.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
shows the ship apparently losing power at least once, maybe twice, just before the collision
says
Though the lights came back on using an emergency generator activated after the initial blackout, the ship's engine never turned back on.
According to Diamond, the pilot of the ship gave a string of appropriate orders, both calling for a hard rudder to port and for the anchor to be dropped.
He was also the one to call for the shutdown of traffic to the bridge when he realized the threat.
They dropped the left anchor and tried to steer to avoid veering to the right, but without propulsion and power for the bow thrusters the ship isn't really controllable.
One article around here quoted an expert who was mildly surprised since there are always underwater obstacles to stop and/or divert ships getting too close to the pier, and the ship shouldn't have been able to hit the pier at sufficient speed to cause this kind of damage.
If I read this right, then those were not present at Baltimore. Quote from a live update to the same NYPost article:
Firth compared the collapse to the Sunshine Skyway in Tampa Bay's collapse that killed 35 people more than 40 years ago.
Following this event, engineers included dolphins mounted atop a set of artificial islands in a system visible to the naked eye during the bridge's repairs. According to Firth, no such precautions were seen in Baltimore.
“This sort of protection is what FSK did not have, and we can see now that it may — may — have helped” had it been in place, Benjamin Schafer, a professor of civil and systems engineering at Johns Hopkins University, said in an email to The Baltimore Sun.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Because they're commies
Because they're cappies, surely?
in this instance I think applies
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
shows the ship apparently losing power at least once, maybe twice, just before the collision
says
Though the lights came back on using an emergency generator activated after the initial blackout, the ship's engine never turned back on.
According to Diamond, the pilot of the ship gave a string of appropriate orders, both calling for a hard rudder to port and for the anchor to be dropped.
He was also the one to call for the shutdown of traffic to the bridge when he realized the threat.
They dropped the left anchor and tried to steer to avoid veering to the right, but without propulsion and power for the bow thrusters the ship isn't really controllable.
One article around here quoted an expert who was mildly surprised since there are always underwater obstacles to stop and/or divert ships getting too close to the pier, and the ship shouldn't have been able to hit the pier at sufficient speed to cause this kind of damage.
If I read this right, then those were not present at Baltimore. Quote from a live update to the same NYPost article:
Firth compared the collapse to the Sunshine Skyway in Tampa Bay's collapse that killed 35 people more than 40 years ago.
Following this event, engineers included dolphins mounted atop a set of artificial islands in a system visible to the naked eye during the bridge's repairs. According to Firth, no such precautions were seen in Baltimore.
“This sort of protection is what FSK did not have, and we can see now that it may — may — have helped” had it been in place, Benjamin Schafer, a professor of civil and systems engineering at Johns Hopkins University, said in an email to The Baltimore Sun.
No, the article mentioned protections hidden under water. It was a Dutch expert though, and he wouldn't have done any specific research into this bridge. And it is always possible that precautions which are 'always' present are missing at some specific bridge.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@Atazhaia said in In other news today...:
It did bring down some extra spans on the far side from the crash, though.
The three main spans were connected by the girder box, so of course one falling would pull down the rest.
Yeah, and some extra spans collapsed too. I guess the third central span if it pushed away from the centre would have pushed down some extra ones as a domino effect.
Boat struck the central left pillar, then the entire red section collapsed.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
No, the article mentioned protections hidden under water. It was a Dutch expert though, and he wouldn't have done any specific research into this bridge. And it is always possible that precautions which are 'always' present are missing at some specific bridge.
Looking at some of the images of the bridge, it did have what looked like protections protruding from the water on both sides of the pillars.
Although if those were the only protection they would only protect from ships being off center when passing towards the bridge. Looking at the ship it appears to have come at an angle and missed those as it hit the pillar, and if they had no protection from the sides then yeah. As the span doesn't look super wide, they may have left out any side protection for more navigable width. But, only speculation on my part. I know nothing of how it looked under this bridge.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
the ship's engine never turned back on.
The video shows heavy black smoke pouring from the ship's funnel. It's possible the engine was running too poorly to develop any useful power, but it seems to be way too much smoke to be from just an emergency generator.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
the ship's engine never turned back on.
The video shows heavy black smoke pouring from the ship's funnel. It's possible the engine was running too poorly to develop any useful power, but it seems to be way too much smoke to be from just an emergency generator.
The most recent video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoPRz7wk3WY
suggests it might be the starter (driving compressed air through the engine) trying to restart it. Since it continues to smoke, it probably didn't mange to.
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My money is on Wizard of the Coasts upping their licensing fees.
*edit after reading the comments I think we need to coin a law where every discussion about fantasy will eventually steer into complaining about Song of Fire and Ice never going to get an ending.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Bulb said in In other news today...:
They tried to stop
But 100000 tons don't stop quickly. They dropped from about 8.7 knots (10.0 mph, 16.1 km/h) to 7.6 knots (8.7 mph, 14.1 km/h) before the impact, but that's still 690 MJ (0.5 * 9.1E+7 kg * (3.9 m/s)2) of kinetic energy hitting the bridge support.
It was a testrun for the Kherson bridge to Crimea.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
My money is on Wizard of the Coasts upping their licensing fees.
Either that or a quiet refusal to engage with WotC after the CEO's recent "we have 50 years of content we can AI-mine" comments.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
I didn't think anyone still used SMS for communicating between people but here we are.
all I get from SMS is spam. I blocked notifications on my Android message app
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It's only been a year and a half since the Affinity folks said "Ain’t nobody acquiring us 😎". Let's see how long their perpetual licensing pledge lasts.
(The quote was in response to Adobe trying to acquire Figma, FWIW.)
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
My money is on Wizard of the Coasts upping their licensing fees.
Either that or a quiet refusal to engage with WotC after the CEO's recent "we have 50 years of content we can AI-mine" comments.
Oddly enough, that might actually be a good use for LLMs. Won’t beat the social stuff but single player would be better. It's a pity it's WotC. I can’t wait to see how they fuck over their fanbase.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
My money is on Wizard of the Coasts upping their licensing fees.
My money is on how BG3 was designed and 5e being... suboptimal past level 12. You spend most of Act 3 at your maximum level (that is said 12) already, doing the same shit over and over, with the only saving grace being that Larian allows you to pull off some goofy shit.
This DLC would have to be shoehorned somewhere in the middle of the adventure, fucking up the pacing even more and either:- upping the maximum level and breaking the rest of the game (or requiring massive redesign efforts of the base content)
- having you reach level 12 even sooner, making it all even more boring
Alternatively, it could be plodded after the ending, I suppose, but which one? Plus, at that point companion quest lines are over, and the level 12 problem still remains.
Nah, Larian did the right thing.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
*edit after reading the comments I think we need to coin a law where every discussion about fantasy will eventually steer into complaining about Song of Fire and Ice never going to get an ending.
Without delving into the cesspit myself: did anyone actually that GRRM is actually the original author of Githyanki?
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@Applied-Mediocrity I read a commentary recently suggesting that BG3 did well despite, rather than because of, the D&D license. And that they were actually looking into a DLC and/or an expansion, but then asked themselves "Do we actually want to do this?"
I haven't played BG3, but I played D:OS which I enjoyed a lot, despite getting stranded halfway through and never finishing the game.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
I haven't played BG3
Ha! I haven't either. Most likely I'll wait for the
Actually FinishedEnhanced Edition.asked themselves "Do we actually want to do this?"
Contrary to his fears, Vincke then recalls a feeling of "elation" in the studio. "I thought they were going to be angry at me because I just couldn't muster the energy," he says, but that he "saw so many elated faces, which I didn't expect, and I could tell they shared the same feelings, so we were all aligned with one another. And I've had so many developers come to me after and say, 'Thank god'."
I imagine, given the complexity of BG3 plot flags, that was entirely genuine sentiment.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
but I played D:OS
D:OS2 is even better and now that BG3 is done I believe they are going to work on D:OS3, which I am super excited for.
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@Dragoon Actually don't recall if it was 1 or 2 that I played. Would have to go start up the game box to check the collection - downside of no physical boxes anymore.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
Alternatively, it could be plodded after the ending, I suppose, but which one?
I assumed you would be playing a completely new campaign just in the same world.
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@Tsaukpaetra That's a workable suggestion, up until you find that many players just want to
bonkhang out with their pixely friends (Karlach <3)more than they want to grind some levels in a short story without much impact.
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An alternative read of this article could be: Embracer try to excise the stink of Randy Pitchford
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon Actually don't recall if it was 1 or 2 that I played. Would have to go start up the game box to check the collection - downside of no physical boxes anymore.
It is indeed the second game which I've played.