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Filed Under: ManASSas
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
What's old is new again.
WTF, even here in the backwaters of bumfuckistan, parents can lose custody if their spank their kids, and teachers will call the authorities if they suspect that.
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@DoctorJones legislate better.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
Man Rubs Produce On Buttocks In Manassas Grocery Store: Police
Well what did they expect?
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@loopback0 Wooden table:
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@Boner said in In other news today...:
You shouldn't be able to get away with this, especially the way it would give the kid bad ideas.
But it has such a high Robin Hood quality that you can't help but sympathize...
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Maybe Apple didn't delete the movie the guy bought, after all
https://www.publicknowledge.org/news-blog/blogs/its-always-drms-faultFileUnder: Blame DRM
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@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
What's old is new again.
WTF, even here in the backwaters of bumfuckistan, parents can lose custody if their spank their kids, and teachers will call the authorities if they suspect that.
That's fucking stupid.
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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
What's old is new again.
WTF, even here in the backwaters of bumfuckistan, parents can lose custody if their spank their kids, and teachers will call the authorities if they suspect that.
That's fucking stupid.
Even if we ignore the moral issues, from a psychological viewpoint corporal punishment only "works" (if even that much) short-term and has either a neutral or, more likely, a negative outcome long-term.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
What's old is new again.
WTF, even here in the backwaters of bumfuckistan, parents can lose custody if their spank their kids, and teachers will call the authorities if they suspect that.
That's fucking stupid.
Even if we ignore the moral issues, from a psychological viewpoint corporal punishment only "works" (if even that much) short-term and has either a neutral or, more likely, a negative outcome long-term.
Are you talking about, like, serious whippings with a belt or something? Have you ever dealt with toddlers? Often a flick or quick swat is the best way to get their attention and focus on the fact that they did something wrong.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
Are you talking about, like, serious whippings with a belt or something? Have you ever dealt with toddlers? Often a flick or quick swat is the best way to get their attention and focus on the fact that they did something wrong.
Definitely.
But that article didn't say a flick, but paddling:
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
What's old is new again.
WTF, even here in the backwaters of bumfuckistan, parents can lose custody if their spank their kids, and teachers will call the authorities if they suspect that.
That's fucking stupid.
Even if we ignore the moral issues, from a psychological viewpoint corporal punishment only "works" (if even that much) short-term and has either a neutral or, more likely, a negative outcome long-term.
Are you talking about, like, serious whippings with a belt or something? Have you ever dealt with toddlers? Often a flick or quick swat is the best way to get their attention and focus on the fact that they did something wrong.
Yes, "getting their attention" is exactly what I was meaning when I said "short-term". It's still a bad idea.
And I have dealt with toddlers. Never felt the need to "flick" or "swat" them.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
What's old is new again.
WTF, even here in the backwaters of bumfuckistan, parents can lose custody if their spank their kids, and teachers will call the authorities if they suspect that.
That's fucking stupid.
Even if we ignore the moral issues, from a psychological viewpoint corporal punishment only "works" (if even that much) short-term and has either a neutral or, more likely, a negative outcome long-term.
Are you talking about, like, serious whippings with a belt or something? Have you ever dealt with toddlers? Often a flick or quick swat is the best way to get their attention and focus on the fact that they did something wrong.
Yes, "getting their attention" is exactly what I was meaning when I said "short-term". It's still a bad idea.
And I have dealt with toddlers. Never felt the need to "flick" or "swat" them.
This sounds like a @djls45 style fantasy now.
@topspin said in In other news today...:
But that article didn't say a flick, but paddling:
Ah, I found where you went wrong.
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@boomzilla Believe me or not. I don't care anymore. I'm used to your willful ignorance on matters like these now and that you'd rather cling to outdated notions from the past where science doesn't exist.
Now, if you actually took some time and learned a bit about how the brain actually works, that would be something. Don't expect me to hold my breath, though.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
I'm used to your willful ignorance on matters like these
Yes, yes, disagreeing with your majesty is willful ignorance. Sure, and all the toddlers you've been around have never acted like toddlers.
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@DoctorJones said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
Filed Under: ManASSas
Here ya go:
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
But that article didn't say a flick, but paddling:
Ah, I found where you went wrong.
How so? Literal quote:
hit their children with a wooden paddle
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
What's old is new again.
WTF, even here in the backwaters of bumfuckistan, parents can lose custody if their spank their kids, and teachers will call the authorities if they suspect that.
That's fucking stupid.
Even if we ignore the moral issues, from a psychological viewpoint corporal punishment only "works" (if even that much) short-term and has either a neutral or, more likely, a negative outcome long-term.
No.
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@dcon
A man from MAN-ASS-as took produce and rubbed it on his buttocks.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@dcon
A man from MAN-ASS-as took produce and rubbed it on his buttocks.ObAutospoonerism: "...produced rubber and butted it on his tuchas."
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
What's old is new again.
WTF, even here in the backwaters of bumfuckistan, parents can lose custody if their spank their kids, and teachers will call the authorities if they suspect that.
That's fucking stupid.
Even if we ignore the moral issues, from a psychological viewpoint corporal punishment only "works" (if even that much) short-term and has either a neutral or, more likely, a negative outcome long-term.
Are you talking about, like, serious whippings with a belt or something? Have you ever dealt with toddlers? Often a flick or quick swat is the best way to get their attention and focus on the fact that they did something wrong.
Yes, "getting their attention" is exactly what I was meaning when I said "short-term". It's still a bad idea.
And I have dealt with toddlers. Never felt the need to "flick" or "swat" them.
This sounds like a @djls45 style fantasy now.
Not quite. Properly spanking kids when they're young tends to produce kids that don't need it (as much) when they're older.
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
Even if we ignore the moral issues, from a psychological viewpoint corporal punishment only "works" (if even that much) short-term and has either a neutral or, more likely, a negative outcome long-term.
Then why have whole generations of people been spanked as kids and turned out as well-adjusted adults, but now that we (the recent few generations) have stopped spanking kids, we have an epidemic of disobedience, petulance, and entitlement from little kids all the way up to almost-adults?
Do you have research that explains this phenomenon?
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@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
@djls45 said in In other news today...:
Do you have research that explains this phenomenon?
And they're nearly always right!
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
Then why have whole generations of people been spanked as kids and turned out as well-adjusted adults, but now that we (the recent few generations) have stopped spanking kids, we have an epidemic of disobedience, petulance, and entitlement from little kids all the way up to almost-adults?
Do you have research that explains this phenomenon?I mean, the premise is wrong, so I'm not sure how you expect an explanation for it.
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
Then why have whole generations of people been spanked as kids and turned out as well-adjusted adults, but now that we (the recent few generations) have stopped spanking kids, we have an epidemic of disobedience, petulance, and entitlement from little kids all the way up to almost-adults?
Do you have evidence that kids are more disobedient now than in the past? Could you share it, please?
@djls45 said in In other news today...:
Do you have research that explains this phenomenon?
You first.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
But that article didn't say a flick, but paddling:
Ah, I found where you went wrong.
How so?
Obviously you read TFA.
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Where I come from we call that "bouillon".
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@da-Doctah said in In other news today...:
Where I come from we call that "bouillon".
Poor chickens... But it's proof that evolution can't be real, otherwise they would have turned into ducks by now.
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
Do you have research that explains this phenomenon?
Do you have research that supports the existence of this "phenomenon"?
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@sockpuppet7 said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
What's old is new again.
WTF, even here in the backwaters of bumfuckistan, parents can lose custody if their spank their kids, and teachers will call the authorities if they suspect that.
Yeah, but it's not hazing if it's the parents doing it...
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
but now that we (the recent few generations) have stopped spanking kids, we have an epidemic of disobedience, petulance, and entitlement from little kids all the way up to almost-adults?
DI think it's less the lack of corporal punishment to blame, as the 'all must win prizes' and the copious amounts of bubble-wrap used these days.
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There once was a man from Manassas...
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
Then why have whole generations of people been spanked as kids and turned out as well-adjusted adults, but now that we (the recent few generations) have stopped spanking kids, we have an epidemic of disobedience, petulance, and entitlement from little kids all the way up to almost-adults?
Do you have research that explains this phenomenon?Yes, this phenomenon is called "viewing the past through rose-tinted lenses" and is the phenomenon where you largely only remember the "good times" and kind of forget the "bad times" which went along with it.
Also, this "Oh, we have an epidemic of .... blah, blah, garble, blah!" is as old as time. EVERY generation has a number of people who think that the generation after them is the worst thing ever.
You can probably find some old philosopher from Ancient Greece who already complained about this.I mean, previous generations also included this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany
Well-adjusted my ass.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
"Oh, we have an epidemic of .... blah, blah, garble, blah!" is as old as time
At least as old as the 14th century.
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
You can probably find some old philosopher from Ancient Greece who already complained about this.
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
Then why have whole generations of people been spanked as kids and turned out as well-adjusted adults, but now that we (the recent few generations) have stopped spanking kids, we have an epidemic of disobedience, petulance, and entitlement from little kids all the way up to almost-adults?
There are several countries that outlawed corporal punishment of children around 1970. Today's adults there seem to be doing just fine regardless.
Also: just because it wasn't illegal, it doesn't mean that it was a thing everywhere. It definitively never was a thing in my family when I was growing up. And among my friends back then, it also mostly wasn't a thing (one or two exceptions).
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There are studies showing that children who are spanked have worse outcomes, or are less disciplined or something (can't remember the exact details). However, these only show correlation and not causation. I can see children with the worst behaviour being more likely to be spanked as even if their parents are against it they might feel they've tried everything else and resort to corporal punishment. Alternatively, parents with the sort of anger/self control issues that would leave them more likely to hit children might be worse parents in other ways.
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
Have you ever dealt with toddlers? Often a flick or quick swat is the best way to get their attention and focus on the fact that they did something wrong.
I have a 2 and a half year old. I've never resorted to hitting her. Sometimes I need to grab her to stop her touching a hot hob or running out into the road, but not with the intention of hurting her. I realise I'm lucky in that she's mostly very compliant but generally if I don't give her undue attention when she's tantruming (so she doesn't get the reward of being indulged), let her know what's expected of her and resort to shouting rarely enough that it retains its shock value, she toes the line fine.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
Further evidence that strings are messy and it's best to just keep them as arrays of bytes, to be interpreted elsewhere...
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@Jaloopa said in In other news today...:
I have a 2 and a half year old. I've never resorted to hitting her. Sometimes I need to grab her to stop her touching a hot hob or running out into the road, but not with the intention of hurting her. I realise I'm lucky in that she's mostly very compliant but generally if I don't give her undue attention when she's tantruming (so she doesn't get the reward of being indulged), let her know what's expected of her and resort to shouting rarely enough that it retains its shock value, she toes the line fine.
That sounds a lot like my daughter. A stern look or word would make her crumble. My son was totally opposite. He really needed the physical stimulus.
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@boomzilla Wait, different kids have different reactions to different things, and one size doesn't fit all?
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@lolwhat said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla Wait, different kids have different reactions to different things, and one size doesn't fit all?
No no, it's just your kid that is defective...