What's killing off "gameified" communities (yes I made a post of my tweets, suck it)
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Btw, "Communist" and "doesn't like cherry coke" is a Venn diagram that looks like this: O
I can't see any flaws here. Now that we're in agreement, I think we're good.
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unless you're some kind of Communist who doesn't like Cherry Coke
Hello there, my mistaken fascistic friend!
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Hello there, my mistaken fascistic friend!
Let's just cut to the chase.
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@Mikael_Svahnberg said:
@boomzilla said:
Now who's using a word
wronglyincorrectly?FTFY
BTFYFTBTFY
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You guys are all wrong. The correct fix:
Now who's using the word wrong?
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Btw, "Communist" and "doesn't like cherry coke" is a Venn diagram that looks like this: O
I read in a history book that Fidel Castro loves Cherry Coke...
...does that make him not a Communist??
But yes, not liking Cherry Coke is morally equivalent to being a Communist.
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Now who's using the word wrong?
You. It's right there in your sentence.
Son, you didn't do wrong.
Lex Luthor does Wrong.
You did it incorrectly.
"Wrong" looks really, really, wrong when you make it a proper noun.
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does that make him not a Communist??
I don't have a target/bullseye glyph handy. You can pretend I used that instead of an O if you want.
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I don't have a target/bullseye glyph handy. You can pretend I used that instead of an O if you want.
All right. I haven't had my share of pretend yet today.
Also: local Cinqo Hombres has a nifty machine that blends your coke...
So, a Cherry-Vanilla Coke Zero is now a Real Thing.
Filed under: "I always try to believe three impossible things every day" [1]
[1] Is that exactly right? From memory. I did my best.
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Do you mean a Coke Freestyle machine?
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Do you mean a Coke Freestyle machine?
No idea - it's big ole thing with a touch-screen menu a few levels deep. And I have no idea if it has a name, but I like it.
Filed under: I pre-date Wrap - so I don't do freestyle anyway.
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Seems like whenever I encounter one of those things, it's always low on syrup (or just doesn't put enough out) and it never seems to taste right.
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Apparently that's exactly what it is:
A Burger King in the town I work in has one of those, but it isn't on my normal commute route... so I've only been there once since they got it.
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Mine (yes MINE!! ALL MINE!!)...
...pardon...
my localthe machine local to me has worked fine so far.The possibility of getting an ice-cold Vanilla-Zero so far outweighs the fear of disappointment of not getting Vanilla.
Is that Childish? Adult? Or mature?
Anyway - so far, so good.
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Apparently that's exactly what it is:
"Ours" looks different, IIRC, with a round screen that's mimicing a bottle cap.
But, the insides must be the same.
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We got a new restaurant called Burger Fi which apparently is kinda like 5 Guys. They also have a Coke Freestyle. And frozen custard.
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"Ours" looks different, IIRC, with a round screen that's mimicing a bottle cap.
But, the insides must be the same.
Honestly, I don't remember what my local one looks like, having only used it once. I just remember the bottom part was round and that the machine was a silver color.
Probably is the same inside, though.
Seems like whenever I encounter one of those things, it's always low on syrup (or just doesn't put enough out) and it never seems to taste right.
Mine (yes MINE!! ALL MINE!!)...
...pardon... my local the machine local to me has worked fine so far.
The possibility of getting an ice-cold Vanilla-Zero so far outweighs the fear of disappointment of not getting Vanilla.
Is that Childish? Adult? Or mature?
Anyway - so far, so good.
If you read about the technology in it, it should be letting someone/something know when its running low on syrup... so maybe it doesn't put out enough. I think Cherry Vanilla Coke Zero is the only thing I've ever tried from one, having only used one once.
Fun side fact: A running gag between myself and my friends when we were growing up was "rating" places by whether they carried Cherry Coke or not. Bonus points were awarded to restaurants that actually made it by mixing Coke and (I think) grenadine.
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We have a place like that called Elevation Burger that has one.
oddly our five guys doesn't have one. or at least didn't as of september, which is the last time i went to them.
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So, a Cherry-Vanilla Coke Zero is now a Real Thing.
Sure, those've been around for at least a couple of years. Firehouse subs has 'em, and some movie theaters do too. I'm pretty sure I saw 'em in at least one other fast-food place but i can't remember which.
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Btw, "Communist" and "doesn't like cherry coke" is a Venn diagram that looks like this: O
If there aren't at least two circles, and they don't overlap at least a little, it's not a Venn diagram. It's an Euler diagram.
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Also, I'm several hundred posts late to get in on the topic of tracking across domains, but it's a thing.
I used to work in the market research industry, and it's absolutely something that everyone does. Yes, we use your IP address, and yes, we take anything that your browser is willing to tell us about your system and use that as a finger print. This is routine for marketers, advertiser, analysts, etc. We don't even think twice about doing it.
The reason it's trivial is that we don't care if we have a 100% match across domains. Close enough is good enough. It's not like we're taking everything we can from your print, hashing it, and using that as a uniqueID to join database tables (although . . . maybe I should try that).
From a marketing/advertising perspective, two people with the same system fingerprint, who looked at two domains within a given time frame are the same person. Or they are at least in the same marketing cluster.
Let's say Joe and Bob are behind the same corporate firewall, with the same locked-down system settings, same external IP address, etc. They both happen to be shopping for sexy lingerie at almost exactly the same time on exactly the same websites.
It's true, Joe and Bob are actually two different people in this case. Maybe Joe is shopping for his wife, but Bob is shopping for himself. Do marketers and advertisers care? No. Joe and Bob are the same, they get analyzed the same, they go into the same statistical buckets. There is no difference.
Is Captain Ridiculous going to buy that as an example of this being possible? No. I seriously doubt it. But this is something that is done constantly, by everybody, to everyone, all the time.
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If I could give two likes, it'd be one for the whole post, and one for calling blakey
@glathull said:Captain Ridiculous
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I'm not sure if that was blakey, but have a like for the idea anyway.
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Yes. I was referring to blakey. And thanks for the likes.
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I was thinking about trying to figure out who he was referring to, but it's not worth the bother. I'm happy attaching that label to Blakey.
And Hanzo'd.
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I used to work in the market research industry
You evil, vile, bottom-feeding, scum-sucking pig. Welcome to our
wretched hive of scum and villainy.fourm. ;)Oops. Accidentally posted prematurely.
And thanks for the likes.
By default, discourse is configured to rate-limit them to a rather low number per day, so that you have to dole them out to only the best of the best. But our instance is configure with a much higher limit, effectively unlimited unless you participate in /t/1000, so most of us are pretty generous with them.
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Haha! Yeah. There's a lot of truth to that. It's an industry with a lot of problems for sure. Now I'm in payments processing, which is arguably worse. But whatever. I spent 20 years as a professional violinist and never made a decent living at it. Sure, I was doing what I loved, but it's hard to be loved when you make 20 grand a year. Now I make more, and I try to have a conscience about what I do. Sometimes, I'm not so successful. Don't care. I figure I'll fit right in here. ;)
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I used to work in the market research industry, and it's absolutely something that everyone does. Yes, we use your IP address, and yes, we take anything that your browser is willing to tell us about your system and use that as a finger print. This is routine for marketers, advertiser, analysts, etc. We don't even think twice about doing it.
What, in Liberia?
IP addresses are PII pretty much everywhere in the civilized world, including the US. If you are doing what you say (and you aren't because your a liar), you'd be in violation of the law.
Are you part of a corrupt, penny-ante, piece of shit company that does this? Possibly. I can't deny it. Does any corrupt, penny-ante, piece of shit company have enough reach to effectively track consumers across domains? ... possibly porn? Possibly?
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By default, discourse is configured to rate-limit them to a rather low number per day, so that you have to dole them out to only the best of the best. But our instance is configure with a much higher limit, effectively unlimited unless you participate in /t/1000, so most of us are pretty generous with them.
Wait, what??!! Likes are rate-limited? Okay, I'm sure this has been discoursed to death already, but what the fuck? This is so wrong. Likes obviate the need for contentless posts, +1s, and plain empty quotes that express approval. The like function is a spam filter. Some internet douchbags use like count as some kind of e-peen measure, but that's an ancillary thing. It's an unintended side-effect. The primary purpose is to cut down on posts that don't add to discourse (pun completely intended).
Rate-limiting likes is like rate-limiting your spam filter. This makes zero sense.
"Ok, google, you may only block 20 spams per hour. After that, I have to choose which emails are spam."
No. Just no. This is completely wrong.
Is this a backdoor for a funding strategy at some point? Rate-limit now, and if/when Discourse becomes the default forums software, then make people buy their likes, ala reddit gold?
There must be some rationale for this. I'll happily accept a link in response instead of an explanation, but seriously, what the fuck?!
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Rate-limiting likes is like rate-limiting your spam filter. This makes zero sense.
+1
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Rate-limiting likes is like rate-limiting your spam filter.
Bookmarks are rate-limited too, as were stars before they got Jeffed™.
I'm surprised with Discourse that the rate-limiting isn't rate-limited.
Filed under: Rate limits all the way down
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What, in Liberia?
IP addresses are PII pretty much everywhere in the civilized world, including the US. If you are doing what you say (and you aren't because your a liar), you'd be in violation of the law.
Are you part of a corrupt, penny-ante, piece of shit company that does this? Possibly. I can't deny it. Does any corrupt, penny-ante, piece of shit company have enough reach to effectively track consumers across domains? ... possibly porn? Possibly?
Yes. You are right on target there, sir. I'm a terrible person, and I work for terrible companies. You got me there. That was a real zinger. I'm surprised you didn't accuse me of intentionally spreading ebola from the hovel I use as a business address in Liberia.
But the reality of this situation is that your internet-lawyering has nothing to do with what companies do in the real world. And it has nothing to do with how real-world attorneys and law-enforcers think of this issue. PII laws are about what you do with the information, not whether or not you are allowed to collect it.
MR companies are not law enforcement agencies. We don't have to read you miranda before we take your data. Your browser gives us information if we ask nicely for it. And we use it to aggregate data, create statistical models that don't include PII, and that's what we share with our clients.
If you want to tell me that this is illegal, that's great and everything. You strike me as the kind of person who yells, "Free Speech! First Amendment!" every time someone on a privately-owned forum censors you. You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between what a government agency is allowed to do versus what a private owner is allowed to do.
Here's a hint, Captain Ridiculous: the two are not the same.
I'm not saying it's good or praiseworthy or that I like it. I'm saying that it's possible and that people do it.
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Likes obviate the need for contentless posts, +1s, and plain empty quotes that express approval.
Doesn't matter.
Some of you may have heard of "rebeccapurple". I learned of this yesterday, maybe via a link from here. The discourse forum where people proposed the idea consisted of one person suggesting it and approximately 100 posts with nothing more (semantically speaking) than "+1", in most cases, literally.
And then there were 3 people who were contrarian, and a bit of arguing about whether it was a good idea or a bad one, and then a mod closed the thread.
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Rate-limiting likes is like rate-limiting your spam filter. This makes zero sense.
Welcome to Discourse, where you're Doing It WrongTM, because that's not how Jeff thinks. He's said pretty much everything should be rate-limited, except, I guess, with the exception of number of posts per day.
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You strike me as the kind of person
You will learn about blakeyrat a.k.a. Drax from the Guardians of the Galaxy movie quickly if you stick around here. It is a rather vile persona when set off by something it doesn't like (which is a set that encompasses nearly everything). I phrased that that way because the person behind the persona claims that blakeyrat is just a persona and not what the person behind it is like at all.
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Also people here have an unhealthy obsession with blakeyrat.
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Also people here have an unhealthy obsession with blakeyrat.
If that's your takeaway from my attempting to warn a newb about you so he doesn't learn it the hard way, I'm not going to waste effort arguing with you. Go spin up your outrage machine somewhere else.
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I'm surprised with Discourse that the rate-limiting isn't rate-limited.
Have we checked if changing the settings is rate limited? Including the setting for rate limits?
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You will learn about blakeyrat a.k.a. Drax from the Guardians of the Galaxy movie quickly if you stick around here. It is a rather vile persona when set off by something it doesn't like (which is a set that encompasses nearly everything). I phrased that that way because the person behind the persona claims that blakeyrat is just a persona and not what the person behind it is like at all.
Yeah, I lurked for a long time before I signed up. I had a pretty good idea of what I was getting into when I went and told blakey he was wrong about something.
I do appreciate the warning, and it's people like you that make the forums appealing to me. So keep up the good work.
There's some interesting psychology around the study of toxic online personalities. At my past firm, we did some pro-bono work for some psych post docs who were studying internet personas. There's a common notion that anonymity is correlated with negativity. It's not really the case. If you study the same people behaving across different mediums, you find that familiarity leads to even more negativity for a certain category of person.
It was pretty interesting stuff. Yes, I'm sure Captain Ridiculous will find a way to rant about PII and stuff, but this was a study that people actually volunteered for. Even people as toxic as blakey. We found these people and evaluated their posts on both anonymous boards like this one and on PII places like FaceBook.
People like blakey are actually worse to the people that they know in real life than they are to people they don't know in places like this.
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I'm not saying it's good or praiseworthy or that I like it. I'm saying that it's possible and that people do it.
There's one thing that you will learn very quickly around here, and that is that @blakeyrat doesn't care for facts that don't fit his own extremely narrow worldview. He will gladly ignore the fact that you have direct, first-hand experience with something, because when the @blakeyrat speaks, he speaks The Eternal Truth™*, and if thou doest deign to challenge him, he shall strike down with great wrath and furious ranting about thy failures as a human being....which, btw, he's already done ;)
*TDWTF, its staff, and its forum members are not responsible for gains or losses caused by following the teachings of The Eternal Truth™
If I've just been Hanzo'd, then so be it. I'm just doing it for the likes
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Then thou shalt have the likes.
At least all the ones I can give to this. :)
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the study of toxic online personalities.
No-one needs to study things any more.
@blakeyrant knows all and he is never wrong.
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Were you also on the last chopper out of Saigon?
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People like blakey are actually worse to the people that they know in real life than they are to people they don't know in places like this.
There's a comfort.
But he is right: we spend an unhealthy amount of time (>0) discussing him, even when he is not around. He is like the goto statement in C .
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Were you also on the last chopper out of Saigon?
I was. I was with the CIA at the time, and I can tell you for a fact that the last chopper out of Saigon was full of american soldier corpses stuffed full of heroine that we sold to black people to get them addicted so that we could put them all in jail. I also did this 10 years before I was born because I have mastered Python, and I can import * from timeTravel.
Is there anything else you would like to know that has nothing to do with how incredibly fucking wrong you are? Would you like to hear about my time training Ghengis Khan to be one of history's most brutal murderers? Would you like to hear about the time I killed the baby Jesus and replaced him with my own SatanSpawn, because, verily, I am Satan himself? Would you like to hear about how that has resulted in thousands of years of religious, political, and personal conflict?
I was there when Hitler hit the execute button for the Jews. I was there when Stalin made Hitler look like an amateur at killing people. I was there when the cowboys killed the indians. I was there.
And my name is Azazel.
I hate to put words in your mouth, but, you know. So it goes.
Did you want to go back to talking about how wrong you are about this bullshit, or do you want to spend more time telling the world what a bad person I am?
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And my name is Azazel.
And now you are doing online marketing.
Figures...
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