A wonderful Christmas treat for all the family


  • SockDev

    I guarantee you will read this twice:


  • SockDev

    that is a TERRIBLE C!

    I recognized it straight away but even then i wasn't 100% if they meant G or C.



  • I don't know what minge means but I suspect looking it up on Urban Dictionary will ruin my life.



  • I honestly didn't notice the wonky font at first, but then so long as the first and last letter are correct it is really easy to mix the middle letters a little and still read it. I wonder why the C isn't vertically symmetrical, all of the other letters in the fancy font look properly done.



  • [spoiler]The minge is not the actual vagina, but the hair surrounding the area.[/spoiler]

    There, it wasn't that bad.


  • SockDev

    heard of spoiler tags before?


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    Yet another reason to not go to Iceland



  • TIL ... something I didn't necessarily want to know.


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    1.5 GBP is ~$2.40 USD, so about 20 cents per minge. That seems a bit on the cheap side. ;)



  • I assume you're referring to their C looking like a G, but I don't know what "minge" is.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    I assume you're referring to their C looking like a G, but I don't know what "minge" is.

    You must live a very sheltered life. Half of your posts are "I don't know what this is, even though it can easily be found through Google, and that's your fault."



  • @chubertdev said:

    You must live a very sheltered life.

    You have a weird threshold for "sheltered life."



  • That's nothing. I had a friend who didn't know what a flapper was, and was completely convinced I had made the word up.

    @chubertdev said:

    Half of your posts are "I don't know what this is, even though it can easily be found through Google, and that's your fault."

    Transferring ideas from one brain to another is the responsibility of the communicator, not the communicatee. (How else could it work? The communicatee doesn't know it, almost by definition.)

    So yes, if I do not understand what you are saying, that is indeed your fault and not mine.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Transferring ideas from one brain to another is the responsibility of the communicator, not the communicatee. (How else could it work? The communicatee doesn't know it, almost by definition.)

    So yes, if I do not understand what you are saying, that is indeed your fault and not mine.

    If the communicator reaches 99% of their audience, they're doing a good job, especially if that 1% is just some guy who CBA to be in the same hemisphere as anything pop culture.



  • @chubertdev said:

    anything pop culture.

    Like the word "minge."

    Remember all those top 10 hits with the word "minge" in them? Remember that hilarious Judd Apatow movie, "Marcy's Minge"? Remember that sitcom, "Everybody Loves RayMinge"? Haha! Such a pop culture staple, the word "minge".

    BTW, I'm working on a development deal for "Everybody Loves RayMinge" for FOX network right now.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Like the word "minge."

    Remember all those top 10 hits with the word "minge" in them? Remember that hilarious Judd Apatow movie, "Marcy's Minge"? Remember that sitcom, "Everybody Loves RayMinge"? Haha! Such a pop culture staple, the word "minge".

    <small>BTW, I'm working on a development deal for "Everybody Loves RayMinge" for FOX network right now.

    How about when it was heavily referenced on one of the most popular TV shows?

    Yes, we know that you don't watch TV. So you set yourself up for a lifetime of not understanding a ton of things.



  • @chubertdev said:

    Half of your posts are "I don't know what this is, even though it can easily be found through Google, and that's your fault."

    In this case, it's not even necessary to Google, just read the thread. @Eldelshell already did that on our behalf and posted the result here. I somewhat wish he hadn't; not all knowledge is good.



  • Maybe it's because I work in IT, and my wife is a teacher, but the people who say "I don't get this", or "this doesn't make sense to me" or anything else where it's obvious that they didn't spend as much time trying to understand the issue as they did typing a sentence really need to be smacked around with a Cluebat™.



  • @chubertdev said:

    If the communicator reaches 99% of their audience, they're doing a good job, especially if that 1% is just some guy who CBA to be in the same hemisphere as anything pop culture.

    I thought it was just a typo. I was put in mind of "mange."

    @chubertdev said:

    How about when it was heavily referenced on one of the most popular TV shows?

    It just goes to show how little penetration<uh huh huh huh> any one thing has these days.



  • Yeah, not everyone will get it. I had a joke fall flat once when it referenced something on Family Guy, but in this context, if you're trying to fight with using Discourse, then you should be able to Google it in 0.2 seconds.



  • @chubertdev said:

    then you should be able to Google it in 0.2 seconds

    I didn't even know there was anything to google.



  • Just Google all the slang terms for genitalia, nothing could possibly go wrong.



  • Will that require a UAC prompt?



  • It will if you want to Understand All C-words.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    but I don't know what "minge" is.

    You'll find out when you're older.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    So yes, if I do not understand what you are saying, that is indeed your fault and not mine.

    While that may be true, do you enjoy sitting there helpless waiting for someone to realize their mistake and spoon-feed you the answer instead of looking it up?



  • Do you really need to ask?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @boomzilla said:

    Do you really need to ask?

    I keep hoping one day he'll slip up and admit it.


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    The bigger question is, did he follow this same pattern when he wanted to learn to code? Did he read the first chapter and upon encountering the first foreign concept, just sit there until someone else took the unprovoked initiative to explain it to him?

    Lather.
    Rinse.
    Repeat.

    No, like a sane person he did a little research on his own. But here, we have to spoon feed. Explain every nuance in the OP.



  • I think we can all agree<yeah, right> that sometimes it's fun to angrily feign ignorance.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Intercourse said:

    No, like a sane person he did a little research on his own.

    Especially since we know that in other forums, where he uses his real name, he has a completely different personality.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Transferring ideas from one brain to another is the responsibility of the communicator, not the communicatee.

    There is a certain level of knowledge that the recipient needs to possess to understand a communication. This knowledge is assumed and the required knowledge is usually implied by context. If you go to a conference on nuclear physics and complain that the communicators have failed because you don't understand, you will be laughed at much as you are laughed at here. On this forum a certain level of familiarity with various languages is assumed, such as C and C-likes (Java, C#), Javascript and English. If you don't know those languages, you're going to miss a lot of what is said here.

    If there is a word or two in a message that you are not familiar with, that's not necessarily your fault. It's also not necessarily the communicator's fault. In this case the word is central to the joke rather than gratuitous. The definition is the first result on Google and easily understood. So you not making the most basic effort and instead whining and bitching that you don't know that one word is poor form. Blaming others is just pathetic.

    @blakeyrat said:

    So yes, if I do not understand what you are saying, that is indeed your fault and not mine.

    The recipient is expected to make at least a minimum of effort (listening or reading carefully, paying attention, etc). If you fail to put in that effort it's not the communicator's fault. You're the kid at the back of the class who fucks around with his friends instead of listening to the teacher, then thinks it's somehow not his fault when he fails the exam.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    I don't know what "minge" is.

    Over to Keith from the UK Office...

    The Office - Keith - Fanny means your arse, not your minge – 00:43
    — retroking1981


  • area_deu

    @another_sam said:

    minimum of effort

    There are some fun discussions on meta.stackoverflow about that ...



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Transferring ideas from one brain to another is the responsibility of the communicator, not the communicatee.

    I had a thought a little while ago that this kind of thinking -- and the aversion a lot of people have to usage errors -- is an artifact of growing up in the era of print and tv, when most communication was necessarily open-loop.

    @blakeyrat said:

    How else could it work?

    Iteratively.



  • @another_sam said:

    So you not making the most basic effort and instead whining and bitching that you don't know that one word is poor form.

    I think is this thread is low on WTFs, so here's one:

    I tried to illustrate how easy it is to look up some word from a post, so I right-clicked on a random word of the sentence above (bitching) and used the contextual menu to ask MacOS to look it up. What could be easier than right-click, move the mouse, lift your finger?

    Here is the result for "bitching". WTF?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    TRWTF is Wikipedia, of course. And that the synonym for "excellent" is bitchin', not bitching, of course.



  • Spoiler text without saying it's NSFW doesn't help



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Transferring ideas from one brain to another is the responsibility of the communicator, not the communicatee.

    Actually I think that's the corpus callosum's job.

    [omitted]



  • NSFW? It's not like a pr0n video.



  • @JazzyJosh said:

    Spoiler text without saying it's NSFW doesn't help

    If you're really worried about it, what are you doing clicking on spoilered text?


  • SockDev

    In case he's missing something funny?



  • @another_sam said:

    You're the kid at the back of the class who fucks around with his friends instead of listening to the teacher, then thinks it's somehow not his fault when he fails the exam.

    You're not allowed to be failed anymore. It might hurt your self-esteem.



  • @smallshellscript said:

    You're not allowed to be failed anymore. It might hurt your self-esteem school's statistics.

    FTFY


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    I'll tell you a little secret. Fail people. Tell people that you're willing to fail them. Tell them that you're making it hard, and that namby-pamby wusses can take a hike; this isn't the place for them.

    They'll beat a path to your door. You're exclusive. You're where the best go. Who wants to be an also-ran?



  • We're talking about public schools — public in the US sense, not the English sense — funded from tax money, attended by the vast majority of the school-age population. School funding depends on the school's statistics — mostly test scores, but also failure rate, drop-out rate, etc. Bad schools get less money. Bad teachers get fired (± union interference). If your students fail, you must be bad at teaching. If your students fail, your school will get less money, and you are likely to get unemployment.

    Your idea may work in private enterprise, in some cases, but to a very limited extent in the public sector. Things like magnet schools and charter schools exist, but they're the exception rather than the rule.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @HardwareGeek said:

    Your idea may work in private enterprise, in some cases, but to a very limited extent in the public sector. Things like magnet schools and charter schools exist, but they're the exception rather than the rule.

    I'm an employee at a UK university: they would all count as private universities in a US sense (we've nothing like the US state university system; there are a lot of subsidies about, but they're not the same thing at all).

    For public-sector schools, the major effects on whether a school is doing well are probably the attitudes of the parents of the children, and the ability of the headmaster/headmistress. If you've got parents who value education, and some ability for them to select where they send their children, the effect I described still holds. Curiously, it also means that it's unlikely that anyone will actually need to be failed; the threat is enough to act as an attractant.

    I suppose it is related in concept to Veblen goods, though imperfectly…



  • @dkf said:

    they would all count as private universities in a US sense

    Ah, that might work at the university level. I was thinking of elementary - high schools under "No Child Left Behind." The schools are graded on their statistics. Good schools are rewarded. Bad schools are penalized by removing the best chance they might have to improve — the ability to pay good teachers enough to be willing to work in the bad school. And parents have very little, if any, say in which school their kids go to, unless they can afford to pull them out of the public school system entirely.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @HardwareGeek said:

    Bad schools are penalized by removing the best chance they might have to improve — the ability to pay good teachers enough to be willing to work in the bad school. And parents have very little, if any, say in which school their kids go to, unless they can afford to pull them out of the public school system entirely.

    We're not that fucked up. Except in a few areas where the system is massively over-subscribed. And even then we're not that fucked up because we don't make funding totally dependent on getting good results. Because that would be very fucked up indeed…



  • @dkf said:

    because we don't make funding totally dependent on getting good results. Because that would be very fucked up indeed…

    We don't either. Actually, you get more money when you fuck up. The theory being that you'll do extra stuff with that money to teach extra hard or whatever. It's not the stupidest thing they do, but there's no real correlation with public schools' spending per pupil and results.

    There are some promising developments, like Wisconsin knee capping the unions by not having their corrupt ways mandated by law. But to my mind, at most schools (and I went to a pretty shitty high school over all) if the student is determined to learn he can do so. There are still plenty of schools where that's not true, of course.

    And you have to be careful when you look at performance to take demographics into account. Of course, then you're just a racist.


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