Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition
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@TimeBandit have another
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Bernie was driving his new SUV along forest roads. Though that road here looked very inviting, Bernie decided to obey law and order and not to drive over that heap of dead trees:
Next time, Bernie will come here with his horse, which according to the traffic signs is allowed to jump along.
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A short story from :
A group of boys aged 12-15 yo steal a car, and the 12 yo driver causes some accidents.
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Came across this while searching for something else:
Crash sends BMW car flying into tunnel roof – 00:54
— USA TODAYIn case oneboxing doesn't, the video's title is: Crash sends BMW car flying into tunnel roof
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@acrow said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Came across this while searching for something else:
Crash sends BMW car flying into tunnel roof – 00:54
— USA TODAYIn case oneboxing doesn't, the video's title is: Crash sends BMW car flying into tunnel roof
I like how they brake in mid air, but not before becoming airborne.
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@acrow said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Came across this while searching for something else:
Crash sends BMW car flying into tunnel roof – 00:54
— USA TODAYIn case oneboxing doesn't, the video's title is: Crash sends BMW car flying into tunnel roof
Video description for the lazy (also, my quote is a
secondthird change for the video to embed):Surveillance footage shows a car in Slovakia flying through the air and crashing into the roof of a tunnel after the driver fell asleep behind the wheel. Police said the 44-year-old driver walked away with only minor bruises and tested negative for alcohol.
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@Zecc said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Police said the 44-year-old driver walked away with only minor bruises
Testament to the engineering that goes into a modern car.
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I’ve had the privilege of listening to someone bemoan the way modern cars are completely destroyed in accidents, while simultaneously acknowledging how much safer they are.
Sure, you might not literally die or have debilitating injuries for life, but the car you’d otherwise be too dead to have fixed is now irreparably damaged! Oh no!
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@kazitor said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
I’ve had the privilege of listening to someone bemoan the way modern cars are completely destroyed in accidents, while simultaneously acknowledging how much safer they are.
Sure, you might not literally die or have debilitating injuries for life, but the car you’d otherwise be too dead to have fixed is now irreparably damaged! Oh no!
Yeah, I've had the same. When I was a teen i had similar stupid ideas, but then I learned about that whole energy dissipation.
There are old videos of eggs that show it off in a way that even village idiots would understand.
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@acrow said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Crash sends BMW car flying into tunnel roof
That's some mighty impressive air they caught!
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@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
show it off in a way that even village idiots would understand
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@TwelveBaud Note the loose wheel that causes the accident.
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@Bulb Wtf is a random wheel doing out in the wild?
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@stillwater Fell off some other car most likely. It does happen sometimes. I've even seen it happen many years ago and I heard someone tell it happened to them—the wheel tends to run ahead of the vehicle at first, so they first noticed the wheel and then realized it fell off their car.
A couple of years ago we even had an affair when someone (I don't think they ever found out) sabotaged some buses, or was it emergency vehicles, I don't remember exactly because since then both buses and emergency vehicles around here got kind of plastic arrows under the wheel bolts that are aligned when the wheel is mounted to allow the crew to quickly check whether the bolts have moved, whether by someone's malicious act or simply by shaking loose.
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@stillwater said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Bulb Wtf is a random wheel doing out in the wild?
Someone "forgot" to return it to the corral.
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@stillwater said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Bulb Wtf is a random wheel doing out in the wild?
Did it fall off the truck that passed by at the start of the video? That's what it looked like to me
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@hungrier In the first frame of the video the wheel can already be seen approximately beside the cabin of the truck, so it looks more likely it fell off some other car ahead of it.
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I guess you could say it is freewheeling.
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@Gribnit #MeToo
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You have to pay extra attention from the opposite lanes when driving on the leftmost lane. Not only tires that fell off from large vehicles can fly off and blast at your vehicle, sometimes there would be the unthinkables...
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@cheong A bus doing a full turn skid … oh, wow.
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@Bulb said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@cheong A bus doing a full turn skid … oh, wow.
When I was in school, the school buses used rather shitty tires, so sliding sideways was pretty much guaranteed when there was ice. And never gets any ice on our roads.
A few times the bus spun around several revolutions, that was fun. Strangely enough, the worst accident the buses were in during my 9 years in school with bus rides was just ending up in a ditch once or twice a week.
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@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
when there was ice.
The road seems to be completely dry in the video though. So the tires have to be really shitty, because with proper ones I'd expect the bus to topple before skidding this much.
@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
ending up in a ditch once or twice a week
That really sounds like … someone was really failing to learn.
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@Bulb said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
when there was ice.
The road seems to be completely dry in the video though. So the tires have to be really shitty, because with proper ones I'd expect the bus to topple before skidding this much.
Might be ice. Sometimes it's pretty much invisible on asphalt. Either way, the tires are shit.
@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
ending up in a ditch once or twice a week
That really sounds like … someone was really failing to learn.
Yep. But it was just buses full of kids, nothing important.
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@Bulb said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
when there was ice.
The road seems to be completely dry in the video though. So the tires have to be really shitty, because with proper ones I'd expect the bus to topple before skidding this much.
Yup, the road is dry, but I think roads covered in sand can have similar effect.
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@cheong said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Bulb said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
when there was ice.
The road seems to be completely dry in the video though. So the tires have to be really shitty, because with proper ones I'd expect the bus to topple before skidding this much.
Yup, the road is dry, but I think roads covered in sand can have similar effect.
Asphalt can also sweat oil in high temperatures.
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@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Bulb said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
when there was ice.
The road seems to be completely dry in the video though. So the tires have to be really shitty, because with proper ones I'd expect the bus to topple before skidding this much.
Might be ice. Sometimes it's pretty much invisible on asphalt. Either
way, the tires are shit.It looks like Spring or Summer. Trees are green, dude on the moped doesn't look very warmly dressed. Gotta be the tires.
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@Carnage said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Asphalt can also sweat oil in high temperatures.
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Ever seen three trolleybuses crash into each other on a roundabout?
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The is
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@blek Sounds like someone wasn't sure whether to pull a lever.
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@blek Look at the bus in the middle, lower photo:
"pro zivot, jaky je"
("For life, as it is")
Well, that's life.
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@BernieTheBernie It's an advert for an … insurance company.
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@blek
One of those probably did a tro-pop
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Federal Judge Orders State to Stop Taxing Truck Drivers Unfairly – 11:33
— Steve LehtoTL;DR: Rhode Island imposed tolls on certain roads to help fund road repair. Tolls apply only to trucks, not passenger vehicles. Judge said that's unfair and illegal; comply within 48 hours. State has 3 choices:
- Stop collecting tolls.
- Also collect tolls from passenger vehicles, which state politicians swore to the people of the state they would never, ever do.
- Appeal the decision and hope they can get a stay while the appeal is pending.
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@HardwareGeek said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
Tolls apply only to trucks, not passenger vehicles. Judge said that's unfair and illegal
In most Europe trucks pay more toll and/or pay it on more roads. Trucks are heavier (the definition is always by weight), so they cause more wear of the roads, so it makes sense they pay more toll.
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Be careful, though. Spoiled food can make you sick.
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@Bulb Yes, higher tolls for trucks is typical here, too (generally based on number of axles). However, in this case, no passenger car was being charged a toll at all, anywhere in Rhode Island. The road repair cost was being borne 100% by truckers.
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@HardwareGeek Was it though? I suppose part of the budget still goes from the general state budget, and so is paid by everyone's taxes.
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@HardwareGeek … I am also pretty sure there are places in Europe that also only have toll for trucks and not cars. IIRC in Poland many roads have toll for trucks, but not passenger cars.
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@Bulb US isn't Poland. Laws are different here. Also, appeal court judge may disagree with the judge who made this ruling.
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@HardwareGeek Sure. I just find that ruling a bit … strange.
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@HardwareGeek said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
The road repair cost was being borne 100% by truckers.
And they probably cause 90% of the wear. Which isn't 100%, but .
The 48h deadline sounds kind of crazy considering that they will definitely appeal.
I also don't follow angle of the poor self-employed truck driver, whose profits it cuts into. Its just a fixed cost of business that gets paid by the customer, not by the driver, since all the other drivers will have to pay just the same.
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@Bulb said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
@HardwareGeek … I am also pretty sure there are places in Europe that also only have toll for trucks and not cars. IIRC in Poland many roads have toll for trucks, but not passenger cars.
Do they specifically exclude passenger cars or do they do it based on weight? Because a fair portion of the US uses weight as its criteria for tolls. This defacto excludes most passenger vehicles as the limit is pretty high, but larger trucks or trailers can certainly run into the limit.
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@topspin said in Driving Anti-Patterns - Necro Edition:
And they probably cause 90% of the wear. Which isn't 100%, but .
This is just the first chart I found, so not sure of its accuracy but
Suppose I can offer the counter view, from truckers:
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@Dragoon first chart says basically 400:1. Trucker counter says "9600:1" stat is false, but doesn't give a better number.
At 400:1, I'd say a "fair" price of having car drivers pay 0.25% of the toll price should still be rounded to zero because of the unreasonable overhead.