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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
Mathematicians don't have to care, because they have methods for dealing with recursion
Extra blackboards.
If you want to really annoy a mathematician, write a function that has horrible behaviour in lots of places and then use it in ways that they think is invalid. IOW, renormalization in quantum mechanics. Or write a very complex non-linear recurrence and then claim that its total solution is trivial in the complex plane. That sort of thing will rub their drummed-in Analysis experience entirely up the wrong way…
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
Not to mention we're doing Java, which is five times worse
Java is significantly better than Python at doing big programs. (I know some people here will argue than C# is even better, but that's not an argument for now.) The one strong constant is that almost nobody doing programming as a career will only work on small programs. The greater strictness and general reduced quantities of mystery (at a cost of being more verbose) are vital for managing the complexity of a non-trivial system.
Python's great at the basic stuff, but it becomes horrible when you scale up. (Also, Java doesn't take that much more these days. We get a substantial line count increase, but that's mostly because of two factors: lack of default arguments, and longer doc comments. This surprised me quite a bit when I observed it in a substantial codebase that was deliberately written to do the same thing in the two languages.)
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@dkf Oh, there's no doubt of that. I'm talking about how you should not teach someone programming with Java. Ideally you should teach them on Scratch, but if you absolutely need a language, make it python.
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
Ideally you should teach them on Scratch, but if you absolutely need a language, make it python.
Honestly? It really depends on what other later courses in the prepared curriculum require, nothing more. If by forcing Java on you now it means that those later courses can just get on with teaching the interesting parts, that's an overall win. Which language you're using to program in is a triviality most of the time, at least with languages as close as Python and Java. There are others that are much more different that you'd be better off learning.
In fact, you should stop screwing around and learn some Haskell and Prolog. Don't assume that the only learning you should do at college is the stuff that the teachers teach; they'll be overjoyed (if they're any good) if you're going beyond that to learn more on your own. That's how to actually get the most out of college…
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Status: fuck you, installer!
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@hungrier said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: A colleague remarked about getting an email from someone named <firstname> <lastname> III. That was not something I'd seen in real life before.
III as in "the Third", or as in "there are two other people with the same name in the organization"?
My high school had like 3 different username templates while I was there, and the last one was five characters from surname, three characters from given name, and then three digits that get incremented for each duplicate.
So I got
lubarben000
because my name is perfect.I don't remember what they did for people with surnames that aren't 5+ letters long.
My University solved the problem by using your student ID for all your usernames and your email address. Only problem is that, like a prision number, 01337418 is now permanently burnt into my brain.
And is 70 percent of my password, coincidentally!
Your password is
01910597
?Oh, another thing: the default password for user accounts in every version of the system was the student's ID number, which is printed on their ID card... along with their full name.
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Status: Someone from Pennsylvania called to tell me how great two election candidates from Arizona (for senate and something else) are.
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@Tsaukpaetra How so, are they good at rain dancing?
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra How so, are they good at rain dancing?
One of them is into healthcare and the other is from a school. Or something.
Wasn't really paying attention.
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Status: Never thought I could orgasm to a box design before...
Is this why unboxing videos are so popular?
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Status: Met this person in GW2
Apparently Melania is a soulbeast.
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Status: Not me:
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interstellar is so sad
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@bb36e I really love that movie.
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
Status:
http://forum.cross-code.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3841&p=13610#p13610Astonishing.
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
You can so easily see no German persons were anywhere near the crafting of that text.
I thought that was part of the joke?
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@antiquarian said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
You can so easily see no German persons were anywhere near the crafting of that text.
I thought that was part of the joke?
Ja!
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@antiquarian said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
You can so easily see no German persons were anywhere near the crafting of that text.
I thought that was part of the joke?
Yes, but I wouldn't expect a German to get it.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@antiquarian said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
You can so easily see no German persons were anywhere near the crafting of that text.
I thought that was part of the joke?
Yes, but I wouldn't expect a German to get it.
Oi!
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@Rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra My version of GoogleMaps randomly switched to English yesterday while navigating.
However, the speech engine itself remained German.
A new twist has arisen: Now everything is in German, but
a) I get the random message that "You're online again". That's nice but if you don't notify me when I go offline before this does fuck all.
b) Some idiotic moron has decided to add a loud "Ding!" to every fucking voice notification for directions. "Turn left in 300 m. Ding!" - "Turn left Ding! Merge now Ding!"
c) The voice notifications, however, are only at 30% of max volume. The "Ding!"? That's at maximum volume, of course.
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@antiquarian said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
You can so easily see no German persons were anywhere near the crafting of that text.
I thought that was part of the joke?
Yes, but I wouldn't expect a German to get it.
Oi!
What? He's perfectly correct! Such linguistic abominations are punishable by 10 years in a pantomime training facility.
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@Rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@antiquarian said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
You can so easily see no German persons were anywhere near the crafting of that text.
I thought that was part of the joke?
Yes, but I wouldn't expect a German to get it.
Oi!
What? He's perfectly correct! Such linguistic abominations are punishable by 10 years in a pantomime training facility.
That's much less severe than what'll happen when you go about calling Dutch people German.
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@Rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@antiquarian said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
You can so easily see no German persons were anywhere near the crafting of that text.
I thought that was part of the joke?
Yes, but I wouldn't expect a German to get it.
Oi!
What? He's perfectly correct! Such linguistic abominations are punishable by 10 years in a pantomime training facility.
That's much less severe than what'll happen when you go about calling Dutch people German.
Well, you're using the wrong word here and there and your accent is abominable but I can see how one might make that mistake.
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Status: I'm in Houston for the week.
Also discovered that the old problem of failing to check what VM you're shutting down before actually issuing the command is still a favourite. Oops! Fortunately not something critical at work, but one of my friends here is looking a little shamefaced…
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@dkf I guess it's a variant of using the command line to shutdown your PC. And only then you notice that you were still logged in via SSH on the remote production server.
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@Rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
I guess it's a variant of using the command line to shutdown your PC. And only then you notice that you were still logged in via SSH on the remote production server.
Yep. Almost exactly that. (I learned my lesson that way long ago. My real prompt strings include what host I'm on for all my remote systems. And I make those terminals a different colour.)
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Status: My CS instructor was unable to grade my homework assignment, because one of the .java files was corrupted. I looked at the file, and sure enough it was binary gibberish with some strings referencing classes. At first I thought a class file had been renamed to a java file by accident. But javap didn't work on the file. Then I noticed the size, and tried unzipping it. Somehow I had managed to create the correct jar file, rename it to a java file that it contained, and create the same jar file but this time containing the first one. I swear I only used a
jar -cf
command, so I'll stick to blaming Java, because that's usually safe.
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Status: Good thing I don't want to deploy an update or anything, Play Store and Firebase seem to be hosed (at least for my App):
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@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Good thing I don't want to deploy an update or anything, Play Store and Firebase seem to be hosed (at least for my App):
OK, what the absolute belgium. I've just found out what it is: You sign into Play Store console and Firebase with a Google ID. If you then sign into, say, gmail with a different ID so you can check your damn mail then these other entirely separate tabs start breaking while still showing some of the information.
What the hell Google?
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Status: Got an email from a fellow developer in another part of the company who just had a look at our code to see if he could use some parts of it.
It's really refreshing to see fully-documented classes, so thank you for an excellent job here. (I personally think this level of documentation should be mandatory across all software but BigInternalSoftware sadly began its life with a lack in this area.)
Holy shit. I'm both pleased by the compliment, and worried about the state of the doc of the other modules... are we the only island of sanity in the whole company? How delusional am I?
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Status: "We're going to keep today's meeting short so you all have time to prepare for tomorrow."
How many minutes of the scheduled 45 did the meeting take? 100.
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status: It's fun getting to sleep at 3 when your first class is at 7. It would help if I had gotten to sleep at 1 instead, but when I lean out the door to ask my roommates to please quiet down because I need to go to sleep, I get met with 'just close your eyes and ignore it'.
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
just close your eyes and ignore it
The only proper reply would be to punch them in the face while telling them the same thing
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
status: It's fun getting to sleep at 3 when your first class is at 7. It would help if I had gotten to sleep at 1 instead, but when I lean out the door to ask my roommates to please quiet down because I need to go to sleep, I get met with 'just close your eyes and ignore it'.
Ah college. I hated that part. Like the guy down the hall
playingidly strumming his electric guitar (plugged in to the amp, amp on and turned up) at 3 AM. With his door open (not that it mattered--the sound vibrated straight through the walls).Or the guys on the floor above who like to randomly bounce a basketball at all hours. And not with any rhythm. The very irregularity made it more annoying.
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@Benjamin-Hall
Or the guy from down the hall who would show up in your room and start playing your ${POPULAR_VIDEO_GAME_SYSTEM} while you were trying to study. And when pressed would be like "well, I can't play mine, there's a sock on the door" and suddenly that just made it all OK.
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@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
@Benjamin-Hall
Or the guy from down the hall who would show up in your room and start playing your ${POPULAR_VIDEO_GAME_SYSTEM} while you were trying to study. And when pressed would be like "well, I can't play mine, there's a sock on the door" and suddenly that just made it all OK.I can't say that ever happened to me for a couple reasons--
- I went to a religious school where sex outside of marriage (or even getting to 2nd base) was grounds for discipline. So no socks on the doors.
- I didn't have a game system (or even a TV) in my dorm room. Later, when I was in the apartment-style dorms I had a computer, but not my first year.
But I can empathize.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in The Official Status Thread:
socks on the doors.
It's only really recently that I learned this was a thing.
Fucking humans....
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@Benjamin-Hall said in The Official Status Thread:
socks on the doors.
It's only really recently that I learned this was a thing.
Fucking humans....
Yes, that's why there would be a sock on the door. Try to keep up.
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status: looks like there's a workplace Werewolf/Mafia group in the making. it's a long time since I've played a face to face game
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@e4tmyl33t said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@Benjamin-Hall said in The Official Status Thread:
socks on the doors.
It's only really recently that I learned this was a thing.
Fucking humans....
Yes, that's why there would be a sock on the door. Try to keep up.
I'm not sure the idea of fucking humans is what gets him up.
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@JazzyJosh 🐕🌍
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@Rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@antiquarian said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
You can so easily see no German persons were anywhere near the crafting of that text.
I thought that was part of the joke?
Yes, but I wouldn't expect a German to get it.
Oi!
What? He's perfectly correct! Such linguistic abominations are punishable by 10 years in a pantomime training facility.
Oh, exporting your convicts to France now?
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@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Good thing I don't want to deploy an update or anything, Play Store and Firebase seem to be hosed (at least for my App):
OK, what the absolute belgium. I've just found out what it is: You sign into Play Store console and Firebase with a Google ID. If you then sign into, say, gmail with a different ID so you can check your damn mail then these other entirely separate tabs start breaking while still showing some of the information.
What the hell Google?
There's a reason I use Chrome for my work ID and FF for my personal...
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
just close your eyes and ignore it
The only proper reply would be to punch them in the face while telling them the same thing
Pulling plugs out of the wall is also acceptable. And so is popping the battery out of a laptop.
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
@Rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@antiquarian said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
You can so easily see no German persons were anywhere near the crafting of that text.
I thought that was part of the joke?
Yes, but I wouldn't expect a German to get it.
Oi!
What? He's perfectly correct! Such linguistic abominations are punishable by 10 years in a pantomime training facility.
Oh, exporting your convicts to France now?
Australia's taken.
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Where's Blakey? 🤔
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status Been hanging my head over a bug for the last 1.5 (almost 2) weeks. FIXED!!
Total code change? Adding a flag to an api (that's passed into a lower api that has the flag), and adding 2 lines of code to an early exit on another function. If you look at time-per-character (yeah, let's not) that's probably about 1 hour per character. And a lot of screaming.