The Official Status Thread
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Status: Got Amazon to give me $5. Which isn't anywhere near what they owe me, as far as I'm concerned. I'm probably not going to order any items directly from them again. Ever.
You don't:
- Sell me an item you can't give me
- Take extra for shipping it sooner
- Tell me on the day that you won't actually deliver it
- Recommend that I place a new order on an item you sold out of. Because why would anyone else have any? Why can't you buy one from them, send it to me, and take the loss, because you screwed me over?
I ended up placing my order through them to a different seller who can get me the card by the beginning of next month, but if they sell it out, I'm not going to get off Amazon until they send me one for free. Because this is not something I'm prepared to deal with.
They have lost any loyalty they may have had today. Good job, Amazon.
EDIT: Realized I had a prime membership from when I tried signing up for a free month for a twitch rewards thing that they never gave me either. Amazon is disgusting.
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
They have lost any loyalty they may have had today. Good job, Amazon.
Which is not a lot, if it only takes one cock up to lose it.
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@loopback0 It'd be nice if they one day learn that screwing over your customers and lying to them is unacceptable.
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@Magus Why do you think they'd do that? They clearly aren't the least bit bothered by screwing over their employees in a multitude of ways.
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 It'd be nice if they one day learn that screwing over your customers and lying to them is unacceptable.
For sure.
I don't have any issues with Amazon generally, but it'd still take a couple of proper cock ups before I stopped ordering from them.My only annoyance with them is that, in the UK at least, the Prime delivery is handled by Amazon Logistics (which is mostly handled by Amazon Flex in my area) which states the delivery window as between like 8am and 9pm which is unhelpful if you need to pop out at some point during the 13 hour window and there's no-one else about.
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@loopback0 If you sell a physical object, you have some integer many of them. If the number of items you've sold reaches that number, you are out of stock. You can then update your website to say that you are out of stock, and disallow the creation of new orders.
This is a basic thing. If they can't do basic things like this, I don't trust them. They would have been perfectly happy to have this delay indefinitely, with nothing but "Your order has been delayed. We'll tell you when we have an update for you. We're sorry for the inconvenience." emails every time they run out and don't send me my order.
They deserve abject derision, because they don't know how integers work, how PR works, or how to be remotely decent to their customers.
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 It'd be nice if they one day learn that screwing over your customers and lying to them is unacceptable.
See also: almost any corporation
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
they
It's also completely impossible that their suppliers lied to them and didn't deliver the stock on time.
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
If you sell a physical object, you have some integer many of them. If the number of items you've sold reaches that number, you are out of stock. You can then update your website to say that you are out of stock, and disallow the creation of new orders.
Yes, although I'd understand them ordering X so showing X as in stock on the basis they expect them to be delivered in time to ship them out, and then maybe the supplier lets them down.
I'm not defending Amazon, just saying. Promising something you don't have in stock will be delivered today is a special level of silly.
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@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
Promising something you don't have in stock will be delivered today is a special level of silly.
Ah. Yeah, they do that a lot. And for the most part, it works very well. Except when it doesn't.
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@loopback0 I mean look, if they want to play by airline rules, they need to play by all the airline rules: You can't deliver, you throw the person you screwed over a refund and organize the next soonest delivery, even if it costs you.
This is completely unacceptable, unprofessional behavior, and they don't deserve money for the privilege of screwing people over.
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Have fun buying everything from eBay, AliExpress and sketchy sites with homerolled e-commerce solutions.
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@Weng If they know that 3 is 3 and don't accept 300 orders for the three things they have in stock, I'll deal with bad UI.
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
I mean look, if they want to play by airline rules, they need to play by all the airline rules
If they are.
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
I'll deal with bad UI.
I don't think Weng's main point was regarding the quality of the UI.
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
@Weng If they know that 3 is 3 and don't accept 300 orders for the three things they have in stock, I'll deal with bad UI.
Almost assuredly a case of "We're sending you 500! They'll be there at 5am on day y, here's the tracking number"
Followed on day y by the arrival of fewer than 500.
Happens ALL THE TIME in JIT inventory systems.
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I would like to thank whoever it was who took the forum down with the markdown bomb today. Without the distraction I finally managed to get to the bottom of a bug that's been frustrating me for weeks
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@Weng Sure, but if you don't make good on your promise, you'd better have some other solution in mind than, "Lol, sorry. We'll find another one in a month or two!"
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@Magus They're GPUs, which are notoriously difficult to get a hold of. They don't grow on trees anymore (thanks, cryptoweenies). Your options are to take your money elsewhere, or wait until they can get some.
It's not like an airline where even if you don't have a flight, the other guy might.
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@Weng I ordered over a month ago. If I'd ordered last week, I could understand that: I almost ordered the TI, but nvidia had sold all of those already, so the option was disabled.
I would have bought from anyone else happily if they had told me any day other than the day they said I would get what I ordered.
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@Magus Sometimes a distributor says "you get x" and the first indication you aren't getting x is when the box doesn't contain x.
Your gripe is basically "Amazon delivers too fast" - they are entirely capable of receiving inventory and delivering it same day.
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@Weng What I'm complaining about is that they aren't filling my order. They are not delivering it at all, not too fast.
Look, if they can't make their suppliers get their acts together and keep making promises they can't keep as a result, it's their fault. And as its their fault, they should do something, anything about it.
Not "Lol, we'll get another shipment eventually, and if we feel like you should get this thing you ordered a month ago, we'll send it a couple weeks from then." - if you can't fulfill your promises as a business, you fix it. If they can afford to be awful like this, they could afford to get more stock from elsewhere and fill the orders by any means necessary. They aren't powerless, and their customers don't deserve this.
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Do they keep doing this or is this a rare slip up?
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@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
Maybe one day we'll get the right sort of management who can realise that the PM/TPMs we have in charge of some big critical projects are unqualified, inexperienced morons....
Ah, they're due for promotion...
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@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
I would like to thank whoever it was who took the forum down with the markdown bomb today. Without the distraction I finally managed to get to the bottom of a bug that's been frustrating me for weeks
you're welcome
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Status: Today sucked. From about 30 seconds after I woke up (when I learned that my hoped-for social event this weekend had been canceled), to the drive in to work (morons), to an acrimonious and absolutely pointless meeting (that ran late), to running labs all day (and being frazzled and so forgetting a piece of clean-up in a way that led to irritated co-workers (stupid shared lab space)), it sucked. And now tomorrow I have to do a stack of grading. Joy.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in The Official Status Thread:
drive ... morons
Those tend to go hand-in-hand. In fact, we have a whole thread about it.
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Status: Friday afternoon, just over an hour to go. Um, was I supposed to be being productive?
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
was I supposed to be being productive?
While this forum was down, yes
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
While this forum was down
Meh, I wasn't at work yet.
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Status: a Game I play updated with a new special activity. Said activity has you fighting "minions", attacking once per second at a given attack power, which you can upgrade using gems. There are stages where you fight a boss, and you need to defeat a certain number minions before fighting the boss, and defeating minions (but not the boss) will give you gems. Attacking is time based, so I don't need to actually be there to mash the attack button. With me so far?
So, I went about to see what the best path to acquiring gems to power up my character to quickly defeat minions to defeat the bosses is. Made a little spreadsheet even:
The top section is how long it takes to defeat the minions, and the bottom section is how long it will take to acquire the gems to upgrade.
If my calculations are correct, there's no benefit to waiting and stocking up for upgrades, the only difference is how often I need to empty the capacity into storage (once the gem capacity is full defeating minions does nothing).
Crikey!
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
@Jaloopa said in The Official Status Thread:
I would like to thank whoever it was who took the forum down with the markdown bomb today. Without the distraction I finally managed to get to the bottom of a bug that's been frustrating me for weeks
you're welcomeNow I'm curious...
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@anotherusername I'd recommend you suppress that curiosity. I didn't, and look what happened.
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Status: Goddamned ASA went tits up when I moved the power cable
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@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Goddamned ASA went tits up when I moved the power cable
Atlantic Southeast Airlines?
Just kidding...
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Status: installed a Windows 7 VM to test some stuff.
For some reason IE8 crashes hard when I go to Microsoft's downloads website.
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Status: I think my bot's making a political statement, but I'm not sure what it is.
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Status: I've laughed at a dwarf fortress, um, not sure if it qualifies as a joke, but it was a first.
Also think i gave up trying to understand it.
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Status: Wanted to reply to a group chat with a too-lazy-for-that emoji only to realize that
isn't part of Unicode 11 yet.
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@topspin said in The Official Status Thread:
Status: Wanted to reply to a group chat with a too-lazy-for-that emoji only to realize that
isn't part of Unicode 11 yet.
It Is Meant To Be! But I think I'll let someone else do the work of actually implementing it because
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@Magus said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 I mean look, if they want to play by airline rules, they need to play by all the airline rules: You can't deliver, you throw the person you screwed over
a refund and organize the next soonest delivery, even if it costs you.out of the airplane to make room for your crew that you forgot to reserve seats for.That's what I heard airline rules are now
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Status: Apparently telling Arduino to
sleep()
from two different code pieces kills it. Whoops.
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Status: So, trying to sign into secure page.
So, if they're partial, misspelled, or contain minor errors, should I select them or not??? Fuck you ambiguous page!
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@Tsaukpaetra Why the fuck is it multiple choice in the first place?
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra Why the fuck is it multiple choice in the first place?
Presumably 0 or 1 are correct and the rest are not.
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Having very low expectations at first it seemed to me they're leaking other users' information, just slightly obfuscated. It wouldn't matter if they're partial or misspelled. But surely they're generating random numbers, directions and road/avenue/whatever. I'd say it's still not a very good approach. A determined attacker can probably rule some of them out by doing address lookup against any decent map or address database, and probably make an educated guess using other available information.
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Status: Reddit achievement unlocked.
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra Why the fuck is it multiple choice in the first place?
I've had that kind of thing - and several (but not all) of my past addresses are on the list. Along with some that aren't. And, of course, selecting the 'i lived here 3 years ago' answer came back as wrong. Fuck you Experian, I know where I lived (never did get that credit report).
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@dcon said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra Why the fuck is it multiple choice in the first place?
I've had that kind of thing - and several (but not all) of my past addresses are on the list. Along with some that aren't. And, of course, selecting the 'i lived here 3 years ago' answer came back as wrong. Fuck you Experian, I know where I lived (never did get that credit report).
Yeah, the first time through it had three addresses that technically could have worked (we moved around a bit more when I was an infant) and it failed me.
Oh well, at least it didn't lock me out like the Duns site did...
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Status: Reviewing documentation the bank gave me from 2011 when I opened all my accounts with them. Apparently I started out with a $600 credit line.
Look at me now, ma!