The Official Status Thread
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Status: Went with my cat to my first cat show with her. Won Best in Show for her category.
Although the lack of competition may have helped, she was the only one nominated in her category, and the only other cat she could have possibly competed against was absent.
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@Atazhaia
Cat pics or it didn't happen!
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@bb36e You can just write this over an existing array, you know.
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@bb36e said in The Official Status Thread:
Idea: language with float-indexed arrays. Whole number indices work nomally, you can just interpolate between values
GLSL has that, afaik. Or the (bi-/tri-) linear texture interpolator of graphics chips, at least.
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@homoBalkanus said in The Official Status Thread:
@Weng said in The Official Status Thread:
@homoBalkanus said in The Official Status Thread:
@cartman82 said in The Official Status Thread:
STATUS
HR lady was told to hire a sysadmin. So she sent out 10 linked-in invites, expecting 1-2 at best replies, like she gets for developers.
10 replies.
Yeesh. Not a lot of work for sysadmins, huh.
Of course there isn't. We're all DevOps now. Why hire a dedicated sysadmin when your developers should be able to handle everything.
Yeah. DevOps wasn't supposed to mean that, it was supposed to mean applying operations techniques to development and comanaging the two sides of the coin.
You can explain how every good idea in this industry went by explaining its goals and reasoning and then appending "and then management happened". It's like "and then the murders happened" for IT
"...and then management happened, and then the murders happened"
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@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor
In reality, an AYCE dining hall wastes a lot of food over the course of a dayDepending on how fast it spoils or not, they should just be giving it out to the poor/homeless themselves.
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@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor
In reality, an AYCE dining hall wastes a lot of food over the course of a day, from having to rotate food to keep it fresh and just raw over-made food at the end of the service period. I think they probably see the To Go boxes as taking food out of that waste bin, and not likely to significantly increase the amount of food they're making for each meal service.And, once the novelty wears off, I think they'll be pretty correct with that assessment; most college students are pretty lazy and won't be taking tons of food to distribute to people who wouldn't have been eating in the dining hall to begin with.
Also, INB4 there's fine print that says if they catch you redistributing To Go food to other people, your box privileges are revoked.
Nevertheless, they're basically making a $20 all-you-can-eat semester-long meal plan where the only catch is that you have to take the food out and eat it somewhere else.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor
In reality, an AYCE dining hall wastes a lot of food over the course of a day, from having to rotate food to keep it fresh and just raw over-made food at the end of the service period. I think they probably see the To Go boxes as taking food out of that waste bin, and not likely to significantly increase the amount of food they're making for each meal service.And, once the novelty wears off, I think they'll be pretty correct with that assessment; most college students are pretty lazy and won't be taking tons of food to distribute to people who wouldn't have been eating in the dining hall to begin with.
Also, INB4 there's fine print that says if they catch you redistributing To Go food to other people, your box privileges are revoked.
Nevertheless, they're basically making a $20 all-you-can-eat semester-long meal plan where the only catch is that you have to take the food out and eat it somewhere else.
Doubtless everyone will deliberately exploit this simply because they can regardless of how hungry they are.
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@Gribnit Disregarding the whole "feeding the homeless" plan (which was silly), we're literally talking about starving broke college students. Except for the students whose parents bought meal plans in the hopes of ensuring their kids ate something solid and non-alcoholic, and the students who had to purchase meal plans in order to live in the dorms... it's a $20 meal plan that lasts all semester (if not longer). That saves a lot of money that they can then spend on booze.
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@anotherusername what you're likely to already see enforced is a restriction on how many boxes you can leave with in a given time period, since that's the easiest way to even take a stab at preventing redistribution.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@Gribnit Disregarding the whole "feeding the homeless" plan (which was silly), we're literally talking about starving broke college students. Except for the students whose parents bought meal plans in the hopes of ensuring their kids ate something solid and non-alcoholic, and the students who had to purchase meal plans in order to live in the dorms... it's a $20 meal plan that lasts all semester (if not longer). That saves a lot of money that they can then spend on booze.
Maybe (as in, I don't understand fully) it means you still pay your usual (flat) lunch fee every time you go, but with the $20 box you can now get free take out whenever you buy lunch?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Official Status Thread:
@Atazhaia
Cat pics or it didn't happen!I can post a picture in the lounge.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor
In reality, an AYCE dining hall wastes a lot of food over the course of a day, from having to rotate food to keep it fresh and just raw over-made food at the end of the service period. I think they probably see the To Go boxes as taking food out of that waste bin, and not likely to significantly increase the amount of food they're making for each meal service.And, once the novelty wears off, I think they'll be pretty correct with that assessment; most college students are pretty lazy and won't be taking tons of food to distribute to people who wouldn't have been eating in the dining hall to begin with.
Also, INB4 there's fine print that says if they catch you redistributing To Go food to other people, your box privileges are revoked.
Nevertheless, they're basically making a $20 all-you-can-eat semester-long meal plan where the only catch is that you have to take the food out and eat it somewhere else.
No, not really. You still need a meal plan to get in.
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Status: Spent the whole day writing theoretical code, and I'm only about 40% done after several missteps.
I really hate the Arduino IDE. It's barely a step above Notepad and a console command window.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
I'm only about 40% done after several missteps.
Status: Alright, ending here at 62%. In theory my code can:
- Init the ESP8266 wifi module
- Init DS18820 temperature sensors that are (supposedly) connected to it.
- Determine the device addresses of said sensors.
- Build up configuration parameters for the wifi manager library for the sensors
- Add the configurations (and a set of general configurations) to the wifi manager for input
- Save the configurations when necessary
Todo:
- Wire up the MQTT library
- Wire up how to talk to the EasyIoT service
- Wire up module/parameter creation and update functions
- Actually poll the temperature sensors as guided
- See the data being updated in real time
- Figure out how to sleep the unit without it going Sleep Of Death.
- TEST EVERYTHING
- Upload to GitHub
- ???
- Profit!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
really hate the Arduino IDE. It's barely a step above Notepad and a console command window
Heh, speak of the devil...
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@Tsaukpaetra ummm okay so is this all good or bad or what's going on?
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@stillwater said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra ummm okay so is this all good or bad or what's going on?
I'm building a better WiFi enabled temperature sensor probe to attach to the refrigerators. On occasion people leave them open, and I felt it would be a good idea to create a cheap alerting system.
Originally the plan was to use a wireless thermometer with set alarms, but that didn't work as they were made more for cooking than refrigeration, and industrial monitoring systems are... Not cheap.
If the current project finishes, each unit built should total less than $10 (depending on how many sensors I put on a unit, three should be more than plenty) easy to set up and maintain (hoping that they will last at least a few months on 2 LR3 batteries) and a somewhat good learning experience for the next project (WiFi controlled bot toy, because I'm annoyed at the shear number of batteries the stupid thing goes through).
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@Tsaukpaetra oooooooh okay hence the griping about the Arduino thingy.
What exactly is the problem with the wireless thermometer?
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@stillwater If it's designed for cooking, it probably isn't configurable below 50°C or so.
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@PleegWat what? It should at least go to 600°
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
@PleegWat what? It should at least go to 600°
But the low end of the range is what's important. The sensor itself is fine down to freezing, but most of those only let you set the alert range up in the normal cooking temperatures.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
On occasion people leave them open
I don't get this. Does the person forget that she's opened the door? Or do they not give a fuck? Do they do it on purpose? Someone please explain this mystery to me.
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@stillwater said in The Official Status Thread:
Someone please explain this mystery to me.
That's not possible. If it were, so many problem in this world would be so simple to solve...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
I'm building a better WiFi enabled temperature sensor probe to attach to the refrigerators. On occasion people leave them open, and I felt it would be a good idea to create a cheap alerting system.
Wouldn't a simpler technique be to have something that sounds an annoying bleeping if it senses light for more than a minute or two? Set it sensitive enough and even light creeping in around the door would be enough to set it off, but I'd expect the main source of alarm triggering to be the refrigerator light. My freezer has a similar alarm built in (except that's controlled by a switch that the door presses when shut).
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@stillwater said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
On occasion people leave them open
I don't get this. Does the person forget that she's opened the door? Or do they not give a fuck? Do they do it on purpose? Someone please explain this mystery to me.
I'm not sure how this is so baffling but most likely causes are forgetting (because they were distracted or whatever) or closing it enough that it seems closed but isn't.
My fridge has a built in alarm that goes off if the door has been open for too long using the door open switch.
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor
In reality, an AYCE dining hall wastes a lot of food over the course of a day, from having to rotate food to keep it fresh and just raw over-made food at the end of the service period. I think they probably see the To Go boxes as taking food out of that waste bin, and not likely to significantly increase the amount of food they're making for each meal service.And, once the novelty wears off, I think they'll be pretty correct with that assessment; most college students are pretty lazy and won't be taking tons of food to distribute to people who wouldn't have been eating in the dining hall to begin with.
Also, INB4 there's fine print that says if they catch you redistributing To Go food to other people, your box privileges are revoked.
Nevertheless, they're basically making a $20 all-you-can-eat semester-long meal plan where the only catch is that you have to take the food out and eat it somewhere else.
No, not really. You still need a meal plan to get in.
Ok, that wasn't really clear at first. You had mentioned that you bought it with your meal plan, but I'd assumed that people could purchase them with cash also.
There's no charge to re-use it, though? What's the smallest meal plan option that students could purchase and use to buy the to-go box?
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
I'm building a better WiFi enabled temperature sensor probe to attach to the refrigerators. On occasion people leave them open, and I felt it would be a good idea to create a cheap alerting system.
Wouldn't a simpler technique be to have something that sounds an annoying bleeping if it senses light for more than a minute or two? Set it sensitive enough and even light creeping in around the door would be enough to set it off, but I'd expect the main source of alarm triggering to be the refrigerator light. My freezer has a similar alarm built in (except that's controlled by a switch that the door presses when shut).
It's outside. By the time the alarm triggers they'd likely be inside the house already.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
It's outside. By the time the alarm triggers they'd likely be inside the house already.
So hook the thing up to a louder alarm. If they mistake an open fridge for the beginning of World War Three, you're doing it right.
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
It's outside. By the time the alarm triggers they'd likely be inside the house already.
So hook the thing up to a louder alarm. If they mistake an open fridge for the beginning of World War Three, you're doing it right.
*Whines* But... IoT!!!!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
But... IoT!!!!
You could use that to connect the open-door sensor unit to the alarm. Now, I would just use a long wire myself but then I'm not very IoT-minded…
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
But... IoT!!!!
You could use that to connect the open-door sensor unit to the alarm. Now, I would just use a long wire myself but then I'm not very IoT-minded…
Hmm... I only have one available GPIO pin, which is to be used for the temperature sensors, I'm not entirely sure if my microcontroller skills are up to snuff to allow simultaneous multiplexing of a dumb switch with the OneWire microlan....
In theory I think I might be able to switch the pin to INPUT and see if it just so happens to read LOW in successive readings?
I'll consider it when I get the current project finished as a Rev2.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
I only have one available GPIO pin
I also would probably make my own PCB, and build the whole thing directly as a circuit rather than using a microprocessor. (Except I'm lazy. I've not even tried flying my new drone yet, though TBF it's been raining a lot the past few days…)
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor
In reality, an AYCE dining hall wastes a lot of food over the course of a day, from having to rotate food to keep it fresh and just raw over-made food at the end of the service period. I think they probably see the To Go boxes as taking food out of that waste bin, and not likely to significantly increase the amount of food they're making for each meal service.And, once the novelty wears off, I think they'll be pretty correct with that assessment; most college students are pretty lazy and won't be taking tons of food to distribute to people who wouldn't have been eating in the dining hall to begin with.
Also, INB4 there's fine print that says if they catch you redistributing To Go food to other people, your box privileges are revoked.
Nevertheless, they're basically making a $20 all-you-can-eat semester-long meal plan where the only catch is that you have to take the food out and eat it somewhere else.
No, not really. You still need a meal plan to get in.
Ok, that wasn't really clear at first. You had mentioned that you bought it with your meal plan, but I'd assumed that people could purchase them with cash also.
There's no charge to re-use it, though? What's the smallest meal plan option that students could purchase and use to buy the to-go box?
There's limited-entry plans, for 25, 50, 100, and 150 entries. Then there's 5-day unlimited and 7-day unlimited.
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@dkf said in The Official Status Thread:
build the whole thing directly as a circuit
Well, sure, making a delayed alarm circuit isn't all that difficult, but then..... IoT!!!
You're missing the point of the project: Yes, the original ask was an alarm for when people leave the fridge door open. That's easy enough. But, there are many other edge cases I decided to cover.
For example: What if the fridge is only very slightly ajar, enough that heat is transferred back into the box but the alarm isn't triggered (very possible, especially at night)? Or, what if the circuit breaker to the box is tripped, and the door alarm (since it's not open, after all) obviously doesn't trigger?All the above has happened, and I believe that by spending this effort now to make a more flexible solution I can better cover the end goal of ensuring I know when the food in the box should no longer be trusted due to temperature management failure.
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@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
IoT!!!
That's a reason not to do it.
Hey, he could make the very first ever IoT Thing designed with real security.
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@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
IoT!!!
That's a reason not to do it.
Bit it's so hip! I gotta stay with the "in" crowd!
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
@loopback0 said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
IoT!!!
That's a reason not to do it.
Hey, he could make the very first ever IoT Thing designed with real security.
Well, I mean, at present there's no such thing as buffer overrun protection, the thing is configured via unsecured wifi (that I'm prepping to fallback whenever an unrecoverable error, such as "username/password is wrong").
Currently (at 67 percent implementation) The "sketch" compiles as such:
Sketch uses 358124 bytes (71%) of program storage space. Maximum is 499696 bytes. Global variables use 32776 bytes (40%) of dynamic memory, leaving 49144 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 81920 bytes.
I have no idea how much space SSL libraries will take (or even if the space being specified in the board config is correct, may be more, may be less). So... Not likely.
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@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
@pie_flavor
In reality, an AYCE dining hall wastes a lot of food over the course of a day, from having to rotate food to keep it fresh and just raw over-made food at the end of the service period. I think they probably see the To Go boxes as taking food out of that waste bin, and not likely to significantly increase the amount of food they're making for each meal service.And, once the novelty wears off, I think they'll be pretty correct with that assessment; most college students are pretty lazy and won't be taking tons of food to distribute to people who wouldn't have been eating in the dining hall to begin with.
Also, INB4 there's fine print that says if they catch you redistributing To Go food to other people, your box privileges are revoked.
Nevertheless, they're basically making a $20 all-you-can-eat semester-long meal plan where the only catch is that you have to take the food out and eat it somewhere else.
No, not really. You still need a meal plan to get in.
Ok, that wasn't really clear at first. You had mentioned that you bought it with your meal plan, but I'd assumed that people could purchase them with cash also.
There's no charge to re-use it, though? What's the smallest meal plan option that students could purchase and use to buy the to-go box?
There's limited-entry plans, for 25, 50, 100, and 150 entries. Then there's 5-day unlimited and 7-day unlimited.
So you'd need to use an entry from your meal plan every time you filled up the box? That's considerably less of a steal, then. I guess it'd be worthwhile if you took out a full box of food every time you went there to eat anyway, and then you could eat the take-out food between your cafeteria visits. You'd probably be able to make your meal plan last twice as long.
I'd assume the unlimited plans cost enough that getting a $20 box to take food away wouldn't really bring you out very far ahead, unless you had a really big fridge/freezer so that you could pack it full of food you took out while you had the unlimited plan.
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@anotherusername One other concern is that most cafeteria food doesn't keep all that well. A second is that most meal-plan students are in dorms (or other smaller, shared apartments). Dorm fridges tend to be tiny, if they exist at all. So you might (if you have a dorm fridge) be able to take enough for the rest of the day (if you're willing to eat lunch for dinner and breakfast, since the most effective thing to do would be to fill it up at lunch, since that has the greatest variety and then eat it for dinner and breakfast the next day, and then repeat). Much longer than that and you're unlikely to get anything useful out of it.
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@Benjamin-Hall Yes, exactly. But unless it's a really big box, you probably wouldn't be able to get more than about 1 extra meal out of it per visit anyway.
Then of course there'd be the issue of getting the box back to your dorm where it could be refrigerated...
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
Then of course there'd be the issue of getting the box back to your dorm where it could be refrigerated...
How's that an issue?
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@pie_flavor It could be, depending on where the dorms are and what your class schedule is.
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@anotherusername They're not dumb. It's right across from my dorm building - in fact the easiest way to get to it is through another one.
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Status: Since my code so far is wholly theoretical, I have no idea if any particular action is successful except if the MQTT server doesn't immediately drop the connection. Well, based on this little snippet from the "docs"
Considering some of these "topics" are "special", I have no recourse but to make assumptions and hopefully find out whether they're correct or not...
*Sigh*
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
Since my code so far is wholly theoretical,
If any are so inclined, this is my v0.1 wifi_EasyIOT_temp_sensor.ino sketch thing.
It currently compiles to:
Sketch uses 377376 bytes (75%) of program storage space. Maximum is 499696 bytes. Global variables use 33860 bytes (41%) of dynamic memory, leaving 48060 bytes for local variables. Maximum is 81920 bytes.
If I guessed literally everything correctly, I should be at a solid 78 percent implementation, and mostly all that's left of the checklist is testing and validation.
Go me?
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Status: Trying to find info on how
QNetworkAccessManager
handles100 Continue
replies on HTTP requests:Goddamnit computer, I said 100, not 500!
Stupid thing.
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Status: Today in Windows gives me extra work: Windows randomly deciding that something changed on my laptop and I need to supply the BitLocker restore key. So I check the memory stick and find out that the text file with the restore key is empty. That... may be a problem.
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@Onyx
TR is those SuperMicro drive banks, amirite?