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@Polygeekery "G Spot" would've been a lot catchier.
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Status: Butan push
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
I've been going without heat for a couple weeks now because I didn't have my grille cover on yet, and it's a pain to do especially with cold hands. I can't possibly have one of the easy snap-on vinyl covers, no, I gotta unbolt the whole grille and put a new one on. Fortunately it warmed up to about 30 yesterday and I finally manned up to get it done.
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@Polygeekery said in The Official Status Thread:
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Taking this survey just so I can tell them that I think "G Suite" is a stupid rebranding.
As promised:
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@Polygeekery you could say their new name fell "G Flat".
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
I've been going without heat for a couple weeks now because I didn't have my grille cover on yet, and it's a pain to do especially with cold hands. I can't possibly have one of the easy snap-on vinyl covers, no, I gotta unbolt the whole grille and put a new one on. Fortunately it warmed up to about 30 yesterday and I finally manned up to get it done.
Cut a piece of cardboard to fit in front of the radiator. Open the hood and insert it. Problem solved.
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@Polygeekery also I won't be satisfied unless you fit a "G Whiz" in there somewhere.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@Polygeekery you could say their new name fell "G Flat".
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@Polygeekery also I won't be satisfied unless you fit a "G Whiz" in there somewhere.
Are you trying to take @Groaner's jerb?
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@abarker said in The Official Status Thread:
@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
I've been going without heat for a couple weeks now because I didn't have my grille cover on yet, and it's a pain to do especially with cold hands. I can't possibly have one of the easy snap-on vinyl covers, no, I gotta unbolt the whole grille and put a new one on. Fortunately it warmed up to about 30 yesterday and I finally manned up to get it done.
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I almost downvoted this.
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@abarker Meanwhile in Montreal
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@RaceProUK said in The Official Status Thread:
@Polygeekery said in The Official Status Thread:
Out of a cannon into the heart of the Sun?
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@abarker Meanwhile in Montreal
I want to be there so I can build a snowhedgehog
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@RaceProUK said in The Official Status Thread:
Out of a cannon into the heart of the Sun?
That would be difficult. A bit of Google-searching indicates you'd need about 30 km/s of ∆v to launch something from the Earth and de-orbit it into the sun, less if you don't mind the extra years of travel required to do slingshot maneuvers around other planets. And I doubt any marketing team on the planet could survive being accelerated 30 km/s over the time interval of a cannon firing.
I'm interested in seeing the costs to build and launch a rocket capable of dumping the marketing team into the sun, but not interested enough to re-learn all the math and calculate it myself.
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
A bit of Google-searching indicate
Well there's your problem. Of course Google would say it's impossible when you ask how to kill Google engineers.
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
And I doubt any marketing team on the planet could survive being accelerated 30 km/s over the time interval of a cannon firing.
I don't see the problem there...
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
And I doubt any marketing team on the planet could survive being accelerated 30 km/s over the time interval of a cannon firing.
I don't think that will be a deal breaker. It is not so much that the sun actually kills them. It is that it consumes their corpses so that they no longer trouble anyone here on Earth. If those corpses are a mixed red smudge on the back of the cockpit...so be it.
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
I'm interested in seeing the costs to build and launch a rocket capable of dumping the marketing team into the sun, but not interested enough to re-learn all the math and calculate it myself.
We all know the answer is 42 anyway ;)
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@RaceProUK said in The Official Status Thread:
@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
I'm interested in seeing the costs to build and launch a rocket capable of dumping the marketing team into the sun, but not interested enough to re-learn all the math and calculate it myself.
We all know the answer is 42 anyway ;)
True. Besides, what's a couple zeros between friends...
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@Polygeekery said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
I don't have a diesel, but if my car doesn't start at even -30℉, it's got a problem.
Diesels are a bit different. As they are compression ignition engines, they have issues with extremely low temperatures. The mass of the block can cool the ignition charge as it is being heated, keeping it from firing off. This is the purpose of glow plugs and other air intake heaters. They pre-warm the intake air, so that it will more reliably light off.
The more prominent problem is that Diesel, due to being comprised of longer-chained hydrocarbons than "normal" petrol gas, has a significantly higher melting point. Depending on the actual mixture, this can vary from -30 °C (-22 °F) to - 18 °C (0 °F).
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@Rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
The more prominent problem is that Diesel, due to being comprised of longer-chained hydrocarbons, has a significantly higher melting point. Depending on the actual mixture, this can vary from -30 °C (-22 °F) to - 18 °C (0 °F).
That is alleviated with the winter blends that are used. At high latitudes, it can be 30% kerosene. Maybe more? 30% is the highest percentage blend I have ever seen. I have also seen Arctic Diesel that was cut with gasoline, but I have heard it is no longer around due to higher injector pressures possibly making those mixtures explode in the pump.
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
I'm interested in seeing the costs to build and launch a rocket capable of dumping the marketing team into the sun, but not interested enough to re-learn all the math and calculate it myself.
Assume a marketing team of..... let's go with 100 average human at an average weight of 80 kg (slightly below the modern human norm)
that's a payload size of 8000kg.
The Space shuttle had a mass of about 2 million kilos and a mass payload of between ~12,000 and ~24,000 kilos depending on target orbit. Let's pick a payload of 20,000 kilos because the math is easier. Assume a similar ratio of mass to payload is required for our rocket
that's a final vehicle mass of 800,000kg.
Assume that we have a SSTS system because calculating rocket equations when staging is involved makes my head explode.
Assume we're using a Liquid Oxygen/Hydrogen Engine with an appropriately optimized engine bell. that puts our exhaust velocity at 4.4km/s.
Assume we want a total of 31km/s deltaV (for a bit of margin of error)
the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation is ΔV = Vexhaust × ln(morig/mfinal)` solving for Morig as that's what we want to solve... we get morig = mfinal × eΔV/Vexhaust
x = 800000 × e31,000/4400
x = 9.1810.... × 108
or... about 920 GIGAGRAMS for the initial vehicle mass
well.... at least it's less than the mass of a mountain.....
huh... it's actually within the margin of error of a fermi estimation the mass of a building. It's about 250% the mass of the empire state building.
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@accalia it is not quite that easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHvR1fRTW8g
Ugh, I hate giving those asshats views, but the video illustrates it pretty well.
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@accalia said in The Official Status Thread:
SSTS system
Might as well use paper money as the fuel source. It might be cheaper.
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Status: My Mountain Dew tastes like dishwasher detergent.
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@mott555
Status: my dishwasher detergent tastes like mountain dew
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@mott555
TIL: some people tasted dishwasher detergent
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@mott555
TIL: some people tasted dishwasher detergentNot intentionally, but I had a dish once which probably wasn't dishwasher-safe and detergent soaked into the pores or something. Any food served out of that dish didn't taste right. Smell and taste are closely-related, and I thought it tasted like dishwasher detergent smells.
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@Polygeekery Or, without giving those guys a view:
In order to hit the Sun, you need to overcome the angular momentum imposed by the Earth. Simply being in orbit around Earth and then getting a kick to the gonads in the direction of the sun will only cause you show a slightly more flattened elliptical orbit around the sun.
From what I remember, starting from Earth, exiting the gravity well of the sun itself takes only 30% of the energy needed to fly to the sun.
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@Polygeekery said in The Official Status Thread:
@accalia it is not quite that easy.
meh. as long as i get at least 11km/s out of my office building i don't care. they ain't comming back even if they miss the sun.
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@accalia said in The Official Status Thread:
@Polygeekery said in The Official Status Thread:
@accalia it is not quite that easy.
meh. as long as i get at least 11km/s out of my office building i don't care. they ain't comming back even if they miss the sun.
Actually, the would. Angular momentum and all that.
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@Rhywden said in The Official Status Thread:
Actually, the would. Angular momentum and all that.
nah. 30km/s deltav is enough that if they were going in the right direction they'd hit the sun. they'd have to expend that deltav retrograde to Earth's rotation to cancel out earth's orbital velocity.
you'd need a bit more than that actually as earth's gravitational field will pull back on you, probably more than my "meh, add 1km/s to compensate" asspull allowed, but that's okay. the Sun is pretty big, and even if you don't hit it dead on, 31km's should be enough to get you close enough to fry, again, assuming that you spend it in the right direction.
the 11km/s is just earth escape. go that fast and don't be pointing at earth and you're gone.
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@accalia Sorry, didn't see that you plonked a delta_v of 31 km/s in there :)
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{sun math}
Look, guys, I think the answer is that we have to fund fusion power.
Then we'll have our own suns right here on Earth to throw people into.
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@accalia said in The Official Status Thread:
retrograde to Earth's rotation
correction.
retrograde to Earth's ORBIT
going retrograde to the rotation will either just put you into an inefficient retrograde orbit, or deprbit you if you were already in a prograde orbit.
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@Lorne-Kates said in The Official Status Thread:
{sun math}
Look, guys, I think the answer is that we have to fund fusion power.
Then we'll have our own suns right here on Earth to throw people into.
maybe that's the secret to fusion..... you gotta stoke the fires with the souls of people burned in the fires of fusion.
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@Rhywden wouldn't it be more efficient to get a kick in the gonads in the direction opposite that which your orbit around the sun was moving (i.e. backwards)? You want to decelerate and let the sun's gravity pull you toward it, not accelerate toward it and end up slingshotting around.
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@accalia said in The Official Status Thread:
maybe that's the secret to fusion..... you gotta stoke the fires with the souls of people burned in the fires of fusion.
Start with all the Cold Fusion researchers.
because you gotta keep a monopoly somehow.
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@Rhywden wouldn't it be more efficient to get a kick in the gonads in the direction opposite that which your orbit around the sun was moving (i.e. backwards)? You want to decelerate and let the sun's gravity pull you toward it, not accelerate toward it and end up slingshotting around.
The Wikipedia article concerning delta_v for various stellar objects mentioned another possibility:
Actually leave the sun's gravity well (about 8.8 km/s) and then apply a miniscule amount of thrust to kill your angular momentum and leave you at relative rest.
And then a kick towards the sun will suffice.
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
@abarker said in The Official Status Thread:
@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
I've been going without heat for a couple weeks now because I didn't have my grille cover on yet, and it's a pain to do especially with cold hands. I can't possibly have one of the easy snap-on vinyl covers, no, I gotta unbolt the whole grille and put a new one on. Fortunately it warmed up to about 30 yesterday and I finally manned up to get it done.
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I almost downvoted this.
You're just jealous.
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@izzion said in The Official Status Thread:
Point of order:
Point of information: That is a point of information, not a point of order. A point of order relates to the rules for debate —specifically, an (alleged) infraction thereof.
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@abarker said in The Official Status Thread:
You're just jealous.
I don't need a fridge to keep my beer cold, I just put it outside for 15 minutes.
Jealous ?
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Status Thread:
Maybe your opinion was the same before the election, but the way you have expressed yourself since then has shown an unwillingness to consider the possibility that any different opinion may be due to anything other than blatant malice.
Y
And you'd think he would know better having been on the other side of essentially the same treatment from and .
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
I don't need a fridge to keep my beer cold, I just put it outside for 15 minutes.
But not 16 minutes.
Filed under: Beercicle
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@TimeBandit I got to the Turkish off-license. They are always cold there.
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@accalia said in The Official Status Thread:
@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
I'm interested in seeing the costs to build and launch a rocket capable of dumping the marketing team into the sun, but not interested enough to re-learn all the math and calculate it myself.
Assume a marketing team of..... let's go with 100 average human at an average weight of 80 kg (slightly below the modern human norm)
that's a payload size of 8000kg.
The Space shuttle had a mass of about 2 million kilos and a mass payload of between ~12,000 and ~24,000 kilos depending on target orbit. Let's pick a payload of 20,000 kilos because the math is easier. Assume a similar ratio of mass to payload is required for our rocket
that's a final vehicle mass of 800,000kg.
Assume that we have a SSTS system because calculating rocket equations when staging is involved makes my head explode.
Assume we're using a Liquid Oxygen/Hydrogen Engine with an appropriately optimized engine bell. that puts our exhaust velocity at 4.4km/s.
Assume we want a total of 31km/s deltaV (for a bit of margin of error)
the Tsiolkovsky rocket equation is ΔV = Vexhaust × ln(morig/mfinal)` solving for Morig as that's what we want to solve... we get morig = mfinal × eΔV/Vexhaust
x = 800000 × e31,000/4400
x = 9.1810.... × 108
or... about 920 GIGAGRAMS for the initial vehicle mass
well.... at least it's less than the mass of a mountain.....
huh... it's actually within the margin of error of a fermi estimation the mass of a building. It's about 250% the mass of the empire state building.
The numbers are going to be slightly bigger than that given that atmospheric Δv is always going to be less than vacuum, as we all know.
If you can get around nuclear test treaties, you could also opt for an 800-900 second specific impulse nuclear thermal rocket motor and greatly diminish the size of the launch vehicle.
Or you could use asparagus staging and have blakey call you a cheater!
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@Polygeekery you could say their new name fell "G Flat".
Is it written in F#?
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Just ran across an old Jim Sterling "Squirty Play" (the old series name for "Jimpressions") shortplay of "One Day For Ched".
I am worried that from here on out, whenever I read any of @lucas1 's posts, I will hear that "Tommy Wiseau doing an Elmer Fudd impression" voice saying "I'm very very drunk".