The Official Status Thread
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@boomzilla In my case, I have very few dishes to wash and the dishwasher would leave them in a worse state that if I washed them myself. And it took me maybe a few minutes to wash up, and maybe a few minutes to load the dishwaster ... it wasn't worth it.
If you have a house full of kids and you are catering for 4+ I can see that it would be beneficial. However there are loads of things that can't be washed effectively as well ... baking trays, pyrex, frying pans, woks (they can't be put in there they will be ruined) etc.
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@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
@groo said in The Official Status Thread:
manual shift: $$$$$ automatic shift: $$$$$$$$ It's more the opposite here.
FFS...
Error in quotes, tag close error...
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@groo said in The Official Status Thread:
manual shift: $$$$$ automatic shift: $$$$$$$$ I'd refute that, but I don't know how to type a fraction of a $ sign.
Also you forgot the closing table tag, so let's see how browsers fuck this up!
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@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
Which means that it's impossible to make an installer for it or something?
No, that Microsoft didn't provide one.
@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
But they do have the store thing, which they could use to distribute stuff like OneNote, at least, right?
Sure.
@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
Maybe not actual Windows components. Though...why not?
Because they decided not to, I guess.
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@groo how did you work that one out? My car has done 100K miles and the gearbox is fine (as well as the rest of the car).
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
(why does typing @ben autocomplete to Tsaukpaetra today?!)
Have I been on your mind lately? You even typed it right! (assuming you didn't just remove the @-sign...)
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@lucas1 said in The Official Status Thread:
I don't actively have to think about it when driving. I am describing what generally you have to do.
With an auto, not only do you not have to actively think about it while shifting, you don't have to do anything, either! And with modern cars it's possible the fuel economy is slightly better. And you can still somewhat control the shift point yourself, if you pay the slightest bit of attention.
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@Lorne-Kates said in The Official Status Thread:
@groo said in The Official Status Thread:
manual shift: $$$$$ automatic shift: $$$$$$$$ I'd refute that, but I don't know how to type a fraction of a $ sign.
Also you forgot the closing table tag, so let's see how browsers fuck this up!
I didn't forget if it was intentional, I didn't close the trs or tds too (but the latter are optional in html, and fuck xhtml).
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@lucas1 said in The Official Status Thread:
The only things that are difficult in a modern car is going a hill start ... and that is just 1500+ revs and a biting point and release the handbrake.
Subaru found the perfect solution to that. When you press the clutch and brake pedals, if you release the brake, the computer hold it for 1 or 2 seconds.
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@lucas1 I'm writing a funeral scene for a story. Except the deceased is observing, as a ghost.
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@boomzilla No, most cars charge a $1000-2000 premium for auto, at least at the lower end, based on their "configure a car" websites.
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@groo said in The Official Status Thread:
In the US they simply don't sell the cheap cars.
Probably not as cheap as there, but there are certainly what are considered cheap cars here. For instance, the Chevy Spark supposedly has a starting suggested retail price of $13,000. Compare that to the Toyota Camry (google tells me that it's the most popular passenger car in the US) which starts at $23,000.
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@Arantor depends what sort of funeral it is. The indians have paid people from lower castes (spelling) to cry for them as they cannot show they are upset.
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@lucas1 said in The Official Status Thread:
baking trays, pyrex
Buh? These can, if you put 'em in right.
@lucas1 said in The Official Status Thread:
frying pans
This is only true for cast iron, and if you took them out and hand-dried them immediately after the last rinse cycle, you probably could keep rust off them.
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@boomzilla A cheap car would be a VW Up, I would expect it to be around 5000 usd if it was sold there.
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Status: Annoyed at the status thread again...
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@TimeBandit That is horrible. I wouldn't ever use that.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
You even typed it right! (assuming you didn't just remove the @-sign...)
I just saw it like three times. It appears it's got some attempt to auto-complete for you--just now I typed the @ sign and the popup had lucas1, you, and boomzilla as the first three elements.
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
@boomzilla No, most cars charge a $1000-2000 premium for auto, at least at the lower end, based on their "configure a car" websites.
Or stop buying new cars. Just buy used and save yourself multiple thousands of dollars in idiot-tax.
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
Well..duh...because they baked it into the operating system, right? This seems like you're begging the question.
You're the one who suggested downloading it. I think you're a bit here.
It was you (or someone else? whatever) who said that no one would want to download it because it would be a 3.6G download or something, so that's why they don't let you delete it from the drive.
@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
You can't "uninstall" Windows components. I don't know, because @ben_lubar (why does typing
@ben
autocomplete to Tsaukpaetra today?!) cropped the screenshot, whether he was trying to uninstall a Windows component or an Office one. I was suggesting that he shouldn't be able to uninstall it, if it were a Windows component, although now that I bother to think about it a bit, it wouldn't make sense to have an "uninstall" button.Eh...why not? I'm not sure what exactly constitutes Windows components, but I could totally see some people not needing them and uninstalling them. Obviously people can disable, why not free up the disk space?
Now that people are moving to SSDs, you can't just wave your hands at that and assert that disk space is practically unlimited, especially for stuff like this where you (reasonably) can't tell it to install on some arbitrary drive.
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
You even typed it right! (assuming you didn't just remove the @-sign...)
I just saw it like three times. It appears it's got some attempt to auto-complete for you--just now I typed the @ sign and the popup had lucas1, you, and boomzilla as the first three elements.
Yeah, I think it puts higher priority on recently posted users until they don't match.
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
Because they decided not to, I guess.
Yes, that's the decision that's being questioned / mocked here.
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
This is only true for cast iron, and if you took them out and hand-dried them immediately after the last rinse cycle, you probably could keep rust off them.
Cast iron in the dishwasher?
TRIGGERED!
It isn't the rust you're worrying about. It's the soap/detergent that will strip the seasoning off it.
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@FrostCat No if you have baked on stains you have to use elbow grease. Dishwasher won't do jack. Also if you have made scrambed eggs via the microwave, you need to wash it by hand, dishwasher is useless there.
This is only true for cast iron, and if you took them out and hand-dried them immediately after the last rinse cycle, you probably could keep rust off them.
Depends, I only buy really cheap ones as they get ruined anyway over time. Whereas regular stainless steel pots and pans can take loads of abuse.
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@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
Just what a masochist would say. I never said it was "difficult." Washing dishes by hand isn't difficult either, doesn't mean I wouldn't rather let the dishwasher do it for me.
Making love to my girlfriend isn't difficult either, but I prefer doing it myself rather than letting someone else do it for me.
Does that make me a masochist ?
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
@boomzilla No, most cars charge a $1000-2000 premium for auto, at least at the lower end, based on their "configure a car" websites.
Well, OK, I guess I haven't really shopped for that sort of car. And anyways, I have a wife for doing that sort of drudgery...just tell me where to sign.
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@Lorne-Kates said in The Official Status Thread:
Just buy used and save yourself multiple thousands of dollars in idiot-tax.
are the new ones coming with windows 10?
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@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
For instance, the Chevy Spark supposedly has a starting suggested retail price of $13,000.
Sure, they say that, but go to the web site....well, I'll be, I think they dropped the price. Must of the subcompacts, you can't get one for under about $16K, or couldn't 6 months ago.
But notice for each trim level, the auto costs an extra $1100
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
Making love to my girlfriend isn't difficult either, but I prefer doing it myself rather than letting someone else do it for me.
We aren't saying let someone else do it. We're saying let a MACHINE do it.
(Especially one that vibrates, heats up, and sprays warm liquid)
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@Lorne-Kates said in The Official Status Thread:
Or stop buying new cars.
I've never bought a new car. Am considering leasing one this year.
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@TimeBandit I honestly don't see the hardship of pushing my foot forward slight from a sitting position, and then moving a stick with my hand that offers no resistance when your foot is in the right position as a hardship.
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@groo said in The Official Status Thread:
@boomzilla A cheap car would be a VW Up, I would expect it to be around 5000 usd if it was sold there.
According to Car and Driver in 2013:
ESTIMATED BASE PRICE:
$10,000Looking at it, it seems pretty comparable to the Chevy I mentioned above (I saw one of those recently so I knew they existed, which is why I used it as an example).
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@lucas1 Don't try to convince me. I can probably drive manual while asleep ;)
Honestly, the only time I would like to have an automatic is when stuck in traffic. That's why I take the train.
But I still drive my manual car to the train station :)
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@boomzilla I paid second hand £4000 for my Vauxhall Astra. It is a good car, and would be great for someone that has kids but it sucks for me.
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@TimeBandit said in The Official Status Thread:
@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
Just what a masochist would say. I never said it was "difficult." Washing dishes by hand isn't difficult either, doesn't mean I wouldn't rather let the dishwasher do it for me.
Making love to my girlfriend isn't difficult either, but I prefer doing it myself rather than letting someone else do it for me.
Does that make me a masochist ?
Obviously we'll need pictures before we can give a proper answer.
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Honestly, the only time I would like to have an automatic is when stuck in traffic. That's why I take the train.
Same here, but you just end up letting the queue get a 30 second head start and then idle forward.
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@lucas1 said in The Official Status Thread:
@TimeBandit I honestly don't see the hardship of pushing my foot forward slight from a sitting position, and then moving a stick with my hand that offers no resistance when your foot is in the right position as a hardship.
We have a bunch of people around here who can't see how living by Windows Updates makes their lives worse, either.
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@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
It was you (or someone else? whatever) who said that no one would want to download it because it would be a 3.6G download or something, so that's why they don't let you delete it from the drive.
Yes. If you tried to reinstall a Windows component after having lost the DVD, and they weren't all preinstalled, then your only option is...to download the DVD again. And the 64-bit DVD is about 3.6GB.
YMMV if you're talking about anything else but a Windows component (like IIS, to give a concrete example.)
@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
I'm not sure what exactly constitutes Windows components, but I could totally see some people not needing them and uninstalling them. Obviously people can disable, why not free up the disk space?
Microsoft has decided not to give you the option, that's why, and it's for the reason I outlined already.
If you're feeling brave and/or foolhardy, you could find the application on disk and delete it that way, obviously. You're probably in trouble if you change your mind later, though.
Since I work for a company that technically still ships software on optical media (these days most people download it) I can tell you for a fact that if someone gets a new PC a year later and decides to install the application, they're almost always going to have lost the disc. Microsoft clearly decided that costing people a few hundred megs was better than dealing with that.
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@lucas1 it's for a private detective on a case that went wrong, and the funeral is occurring in a semi posh but fictional village in Hampshire. C of E or vaguely Christian is what I'm going for and Google was very helpful. Just a weird thing to search for.
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@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
Yes, that's the decision that's being questioned / mocked here.
Well, go over to Raymond Chen's block and mock Microsoft there. I didn't come up with this decision, so don't mock me over it.
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@Arantor why didn't you ask me before, I live there fucker.
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@Lorne-Kates said in The Official Status Thread:
It isn't the rust you're worrying about. It's the soap/detergent that will strip the seasoning off it.
Good point. I've never done it myself, so I was just speculating.
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@FrostCat It's the same. They moved it out of Office and into Windows because it's the killer app for touch devices. Really. It's fucking great.
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@lucas1 said in The Official Status Thread:
No if you have baked on stains you have to use elbow grease.
I avoid doing things that will lead to that. :)
@lucas1 said in The Official Status Thread:
Also if you have made scrambed eggs via the microwave, you need to
wash it by handstop doing thatFTFY.
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@boomzilla Surely Windows updates being automatic and bad in that statement proves why it is better to "drive stick" :D
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
YMMV if you're talking about anything else but a Windows component (like IIS, to give a concrete example.)
IIS seems like exactly the sort of thing that shouldn't be always-installed.
@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
Microsoft has decided not to give you the option, that's why, and it's for the reason I outlined already.
Not really. You just explained the decision they made, not the rationale behind it.
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@Weng said in The Official Status Thread:
@FrostCat It's the same. They moved it out of Office and into Windows because it's the killer app for touch devices. Really. It's fucking great.
I have a touch-enabled device. My reaction: Meh.
Then again, I can't take notes, so...
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@Onyx said in The Official Status Thread:
@DogsB said in The Official Status Thread:
Apparently Github is setup to broadcast all our commits to everyone. Apparently my commit messages on temporary branches are quite the source of amusement. Also I'm flooding the feed.
You're not working on anything Unreal Engine related, are you?
Filed under: Now that was a flood, https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/4ur3n9/a_github_user_just_forked_the_unrealengine_repo/
No. Just eclipse development. Soon to be replaced by web forms!
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@FrostCat said in The Official Status Thread:
@boomzilla said in The Official Status Thread:
Yes, that's the decision that's being questioned / mocked here.
Well, go over to Raymond Chen's block and mock Microsoft there. I didn't come up with this decision, so don't mock me over it.
Let me know how this works out for you.
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@lucas1 I live in Sussex, I just didn't want to put it in Sussex because Sussex doesn't feel quite classy enough for what I'm trying to go for at least on this scene of the story.
Though once the mourners leave the funeral, it kind of doesn't really matter where it is. It just had to be somewhere reasonably affluent and reasonably posh in reasonable distance from London.
I'm sorry I didn't stop to consider your wisdom again, though if I had wanted advice on the subject, I would have asked for advice, rather than merely stopping to observe that I was doing my own research and it seemed slightly weird.