🙅 THE BAD IDEAS THREAD
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It's entirely founded on the results of a study which deliberately disposed of the scientific method and changed the result to find what the people conducting it wanted to find.
I find it hilarious that anyone on a tech forum wouldn't have a problem with such a study.
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Here, since you are evidently blatantly mistaken by your studies, here are several sources that indicate completely otherwise:
For a lighter version, I'd recommend the first several (short) paragraphs of this Wikipedia article on the subject, all of which point to numerous individual sources that all say the same thing.
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Oh yeah, I love me sum' rottin' teeth! Ain't no gubmin' gon' give me no pearly-whites!
. The correct way to avoid fluoridated water is to only drink rain water and grain alcohol.
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I'll see all of your links to old studies and people rehashing the same old studies, and raise you an independent review of all those studies which found... surprisingly enough:
http://www.newsweek.com/fluoridation-may-not-prevent-cavities-huge-study-shows-348251:
The Cochrane Collaboration, a group of doctors and researchers known for their comprehensive reviews—which are widely regarded as the gold standard of scientific rigor in assessing effectiveness of public health policies—recently set out to find out if fluoridation reduces cavities. They reviewed every study done on fluoridation that they could find, and then winnowed down the collection to only the most comprehensive, well-designed and reliable papers. Then they analyzed these studies’ results, and published their conclusion in a review earlier this month.
... determined that fluoridation does not reduce cavities to a statistically significant degree in permanent teeth ... also found “insufficient evidence” that fluoridation reduces tooth decay in adults
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I really love to get my opinions from none other than Newsweek.
Whatever, you won't listen either way. You're just going to echo chamber your opinion, and regardless of what I (or anyone else) says you'll keep believing that it's true.
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I grew up on unfluoridated well water from the farm, and despite being a sugaraholic with more Mountain Dew and Coca-Cola in my body than blood, I constantly get told by dentists "You have great teeth. You must not drink any soda!"
Filed Under: I actually have no position on fluoridation.
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Okay, I don't see what that has to do with what I said?
Since we're on this topic: http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
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You completely ignored what I posted and made a snarky joke about how you don't trust anything that Newsweek reports.
Instead of addressing the argument, you attacked the source. Text book example of ad hominem.
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No I didn't; Newsweek is not a reputable source, unlike the CDC, WHO, et. al. That's a valid criticism, and one that was meant for you to do further research for other, more reliable sources. Cochrane is good, but I'd want to read their study and try to see if others could replicate the results or if Newsweek was trying to spin their study into something that it wasn't.
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No I didn't; Newsweek is not a reputable source
Newsweek wasn't the source. They were reporting it. They did not do the study.
Cochrane is good, but I'd want to read their study
Then go fucking do that and quit giving me the finger because the link I happened to find was a web site that you like to print out and wipe your ass on.
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Then go fucking do that and quit giving me the finger because the link I happened to find was a web site that you like to print out and wipe your ass on.
Why should I? That should be something for you to do.
Besides, you're cussing at me, surely that's a logical fallacy!!@11@3rtone
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The link to the Cochrane study was literally in the part that I quoted, and I made sure it was still a clickable linky thing just for you in case you didn't want to sully your browser's cookies with Newsweek.
Besides, you're cussing at me, surely that's a logical fallacy!
Nope, but if you're implying I'm not credible because I cussed at you, that would be a logical fallacy. What's that link again... oh yes, the ad hominem one.
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... what do you propose would have killed them exactly? Did you watch the cutscene? They were sheltered from the blast wave, and not close enough to get enough rads.
Was the elevator a pressure vessel?
Admittedly, I did not watch the cutscene in question.
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Why are you getting so upset over being wrong? You probably don't have enough fluoride in your water.
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I'm not upset; I just have a low tolerance threshold for idiots. Show me again where you proved that I was wrong?
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Admittedly, I did not watch the cutscene in question.
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Show me again where you proved that I was wrong?
Everywhere, even if you refuse to believe it. Scientific consensus does not agree with you.
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10,000 (or 9,999, is )
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And 10001!
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Yeah, they are all dead from the pressure wave and @blakeyrat is wrong. Again.
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To be fair if someone's going to start picking apart something that happens in the first 20ish minutes of Fallout 4, they should probably just quit then and not play the rest.
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To be fair if someone's going to start picking apart something that happens in the first 20ish minutes of Fallout 4, they should probably just quit then and not play the rest.
To be fair, @blakeyrat shouldn't go around saying that the physics are fine and not expect people to call him on it. We don't play video games because we want to see reality. We do so to be immersed in the fantastical. But we also don't go saying that they are 100% accurate and that they could occur in real life.
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I included emoji in my password and now I can't log in to my Account on Yosemite
He may as well have titled his question, "I am a fucktard".
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But we also don't go saying that they are 100% accurate and that they could occur in real life.
You mean I can't actually cut down a tree with my bare fist in under a minute?
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Nope, but if you're implying I'm not credible because I cussed at you, that would be a logical fallacy. What's that link again... oh yes, the ad hominem one.
E_SARCASM_NOT_DETECTED
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Scientific consensus does not agree with you.
The scientific consensus of which you refer is fixated on a bunch of 40-year-old studies that were conducted before fluoridated toothpaste was a thing. And the more recent studies have been largely inconclusive because the cavity rates pre-water fluoridation were already too low for it to make any noticeable difference, which just proves the point further. Tooth decay was beaten by better oral hygiene; fluoridated water has little if any effect.
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Tooth decay was beaten by better oral hygiene; fluoridated water has little if any effect.
Then why does the CDC cite it as being one of the "ten great public health advancements" from 1990-1999? While that's not from last year, it isn't 40 years old as you claim.
Fluoridation of drinking water began in 1945 and in 1999 reaches an estimated 144 million persons in the United States. Fluoridation safely and inexpensively benefits both children and adults by effectively preventing tooth decay, regardless of socioeconomic status or access to care. Fluoridation has played an important role in the reductions in tooth decay (40%-70% in children) and of tooth loss in adults (40%-60%) (5).
5. Burt BA, Eklund SA. Dentistry, dental practice, and the community. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: WB Saunders Company, 1999:204-20.
Obviously it was still making a significant impact in 1999, when that study was published.
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And considering that he seems to have filmed that one in his bath room - he probably also didn't have the proper safety goggles...
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Obviously it was still making a significant impact in 1999, when that study was published.
It wasn't a study, it was a book published in 1999:
And I'd bet good money that the scholarly references used in that book were just the same old studies from the 70s and earlier, or ultimately referred back to those studies. Because, like I already said, the actual studies that were done later on mostly just found that the tooth decay rates were already low enough, even in places where water wasn't fluoridated, that they couldn't detect any additional benefit from fluoridating the water there.
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I grew up on unfluoridated well water from the farm, and despite being a sugaraholic with more Mountain Dew and Coca-Cola in my body than blood, I constantly get told by dentists "You have great teeth. You must not drink any soda!"
genes are amazing things. (Yeah, I'll never have a body like all the ads say I can if I just buy their product)
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You mean I can't actually cut down a tree with my bare fist in under a minute?
There's only one way to know, you must try it. Make sure and take video. Be sure to post it here.
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@PleegWat said:
All job postings would be suffixed with (M/V).
Man/Vagina?
I won't be able to read this otherwise from now on. Thanks!
Extra bonus points for using the correct Dutch words.
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I won't be able to read this otherwise from now on. Thanks!
I do what I must because I can.
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Here's a much more even handed examination of the Cohrane study.
Summary:
- Flouride good
- Flouride in water supply good, but probably less so than initially thought
- Newsweek bad
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Flouride
Apparently, that is
A secret derivative of white-flour, used in water supplies. Flouride, is rich in calcium, essential for strong, healthy bones and teeth.
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To be fair, @blakeyrat shouldn't go around saying that the physics are fine and not expect people to call him on it.
It's pretty mean of you to hold him to some kind of standard.
Funny, but mean.
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+ Newsweek bad
Surprise!
+ Flouride good
- Flouride in water supply good, but probably less so than initially thought
That was my understanding, too. But no...
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You mean I can't actually cut down a tree with my bare fist in under a minute?
I don't mean that and I encourage you to find out for yourself, first-fist, so to speak.
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Geez, spoiler that triggering bullshit, will ya?
Hey, @fox, do you think PIV is always rape?
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I think @fox tries to not think about PIV.
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I think @fox tries to not think about PIV.
Well, he's going to have to, at least enough to decide whether or not it's inherently rape, so he can know whether he's on the same page as rabid feminsists.
ETA: live by intersectionality, die by intersectionality. As an SJW I think he has to have an opinion.
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Spoiler alert: He is
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PIV
What is this PIV we're talking about?
Google just isn't helpful with all these made-up acronyms anymore...
Edit: not to mention the most likely source is the mentioned article in question, so
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In this context, it's an acronym for the disparaging term Penis In Vagina, aka normal heterosexual sex.