Overheard 2 architects talking...



  • While waiting for a meeting, I overheard two architects talking in an office:

    A1: If we're going to use Java, we need to have a plan in case Oracle lets it die

    A2: Ok, let's use AKKA.

    Of course, AKKA is built to run on top of the JVM...



  • So I'm guessing based on this you've switched employers from WTF Inc. to SrslyWTF LLC?





  • Wait, what does Akka has to do with Java? Proposing to use Scala would make sense, but Akka? You can use Akka in Java and it's pretty good, BTW.

    Why would Oracle let Java die? What kind of people do you work with?


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    @ubersoldat said:

    What kind of people do you work with?
    Evidence suggests “stupid paranoids”…



  • @ubersoldat said:

    What kind of people do you work with?
    If you have to ask that, you can't have been paying attention lately!



  • @DaveK said:

    @ubersoldat said:
    What kind of people do you work with?

    If you have to ask that, you can't have been paying attention lately!

    No. Snoofle is at a new place, so we're still getting to know new WTFery.



  • @boomzilla said:

    @DaveK said:
    @ubersoldat said:
    What kind of people do you work with?

    If you have to ask that, you can't have been paying attention lately!

    No. Snoofle is at a new place, so we're still getting to know new WTFery.

    Meet the new WTFery, same as the old WTFery!



  • Instead of using the JVM they'd be better served by a DSL.



  •  @snoofle said:

    While waiting for a meeting, I overheard two architects talking in an office:

    A1: If we're going to use Java, we need to have a plan in case Oracle lets it die

    A2: Ok, let's use AKKA.

    Of course, AKKA is built to run on top of the JVM...

    Ah, you don't understand the wisdom here. By using AKKA they abstract the application code away from the Java APIs, so if Java should ever die the impact on their code will be minimized since it doesn't depend on the Java APIs.

    (So, do you actually search out engagements with a high WTF index or are you just cursed?)

     

     

     



  • @t_wheeler said:

     @snoofle said:

    While waiting for a meeting, I overheard two architects talking in an office:

    A1: If we're going to use Java, we need to have a plan in case Oracle lets it die

    A2: Ok, let's use AKKA.

    Of course, AKKA is built to run on top of the JVM...

    Ah, you don't understand the wisdom here. By using AKKA they abstract the application code away from the Java APIs, so if Java should ever die the impact on their code will be minimized since it doesn't depend on the Java APIs.

    (So, do you actually search out engagements with a high WTF index or are you just cursed?)

     

     

     


    My first job out of college was with an accounting software company who used "Business Basic" to write their software; I was hired because the Business Basic interpreter was written by a company who might have gone out of business. If they did, and there was a bug in the interpreter, I was supposed to be able to fix it because I'd studied C in school. Fortunately the company decided they no longer needed my services long before the vendor closed its doors. [This does date me a bit, I suppose]. But there are certainly real concerns when the platform you're building your business on, is not a platform you can control.


    We used to manage that by bundling a private JVM with our software; the user could update his JVM as he wished; but our stuff ran on the old JVM.



  • @ubersoldat said:

    Why would Oracle let Java die?
     

    Why would they keep it alive?

    Now, just invert your answers and you'll have the reasons why Oracle would let it die. AKA, because they are morons. If reality agrees with that hypotesis or not I have no idea.



  • I still think they're not covering all of their bases. What if computers switch to ternary logic? What if the thermonuclear war leaves us with only rocks and sticks to do our calculations? What if the universe collapses upon itself and takes the whole of the reality with it?



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    I still think they're not covering all of their bases. What if computers switch to ternary logic? What if the thermonuclear war leaves us with only rocks and sticks to do our calculations? What if the universe collapses upon itself and takes the whole of the reality with it?

    What if computers no longer use 256-value bytes? What if Community Server is actually Jon Stewart's beard? What if Ben L. has a chromebook? What if snoofle has an aura that makes any company he joins hilariously bad at their job? What if oxygen becomes toxic? What is the LD50 of the front page printed on A4 paper? What if blakeyrat doesn't like this post?



  • @Ben L. said:

    @Maciejasjmj said:
    I still think they're not covering all of their bases. What if computers switch to ternary logic? What if the thermonuclear war leaves us with only rocks and sticks to do our calculations? What if the universe collapses upon itself and takes the whole of the reality with it?

    What if computers no longer use 256-value bytes? What if Community Server is actually Jon Stewart's beard? What if Ben L. has a chromebook? What if snoofle has an aura that makes any company he joins hilariously bad at their job? What if oxygen becomes toxic? What is the LD50 of the front page printed on A4 paper? What if blakeyrat doesn't like this post?

    What?



  • @Ben L. said:

    What if Ben L. has a chromebook?
     @Ben L. said:
    What if blakeyrat doesn't like this post?
    Crazy talk.



  • @Ben L. said:

    What is the LD50 of the front page printed on A4 paper?

    I believe XKCD covered that one recently.




  • Clearly, these guys are retards for not realizing that they could just use Excel. I mean, it does everything they need, and c'mon...finance?! They're already using it!

    Just watch out for when it clears the undo stack on you. That'll fuck you up every time.



  •  What if some of these excel files have the same name?


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    @boomzilla said:


    Clearly, these guys are retards for not realizing that they could just use Excel. I mean, it does everything they need, and c'mon...finance?! They're already using it!

    Just watch out for when it clears the undo stack on you. That'll fuck you up every time.

    This is 30 minutes in Excel, tops. Why would you reinvent the wheel, the road, the wagon, the horse, and the shocker?
    Why would you ever program in anything but Excel ever again?


  • I wonder if anyone has ever used Excel to develop a custom spreadsheet application.


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    @mott555 said:

    I wonder if anyone has ever used Excel to develop a custom spreadsheet application.

    Well, I seem to recall some silly clause in the Visual Studio EULA that won't allow you to write an Office competitor with VS.



  • @Ben L. said:

    What if computers no longer use 256-value bytes?
    Then you glue two of them together.

    @Ben L. said:

    What if Community Server is actually Jon Stewart's beard?
    Then Telligent Community is Stephen Colbert's nipple dandruff.

    @Ben L. said:

    What if Ben L. has a chromebook?
    Irrelevant. There's no such thing as a Ben L.

    @Ben L. said:

    What if snoofle has an aura that makes any company he joins hilariously bad at their job?
    Then we send him on a world tour.

    @Ben L. said:

    What if oxygen becomes toxic?
    It is, in the right quantity to the right organism. You're also about 600 million years too late.

    @Ben L. said:

    What is the LD50 of the front page printed on A4 paper?
    Rosie O'Donnel.

    @Ben L. said:

    What if blakeyrat doesn't like this post?
    He'll ragequit.

     

     

     

     

     

     



  • @Lorne Kates said:


     

     

     

     

     

     


    What if your post ends with <p><br></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>?



  • @Ben L. said:

    @Lorne Kates said:


     

     

     

     

     

     


    What if your post ends with <p><br></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>?
     

    Then "Community Server".

     



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @Ben L. said:

    @Lorne Kates said:


     

     

     

     

     

     


    What if your post ends with <p><br></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>?
     

    Then "Community Server".

     


    Does it show up like that in the editor? Can you push the down arrow key from the end of your post and move down?



  • @Ben L. said:

    Does it show up like that in the editor? Can you push the down arrow key from the end of your post and move down?
     

     Nope. At least not now. Probably an artifact of quoting. Like I said "Community Server"



  • @t_wheeler said:

     @snoofle said:

    While waiting for a meeting, I overheard two architects talking in an office:

    A1: If we're going to use Java, we need to have a plan in case Oracle lets it die

    A2: Ok, let's use AKKA.

    Of course, AKKA is built to run on top of the JVM...

    Ah, you don't understand the wisdom here. By using AKKA they abstract the application code away from the Java APIs, so if Java should ever die the impact on their code will be minimized since it doesn't depend on the Java APIs.

    (So, do you actually search out engagements with a high WTF index or are you just cursed?)

     

     

     

    I'm beginning to think I'm cursed (they pulled a bait and switch on me; being rectified by me very shortly).

    Of course, in the very short time I've been here, I've witnessed more wtf than at WTF-Inc in 2.5 years (the stories will need to wait a while, but they will come).


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    @snoofle said:

    I've witnessed more wtf than at WTF-Inc in 2.5 years (the stories will need to wait a while, but they will come).

    You have my condolences. WOO HOO MORE WTF CONTENT!



  • @snoofle said:

    I'm beginning to think I'm cursed (they pulled a bait and switch on me; being rectified by me very shortly).
    Oooh, that I want to hear all about.



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @Ben L. said:

    Does it show up like that in the editor? Can you push the down arrow key from the end of your post and move down?
     

     Nope. At least not now. Probably an artifact of quoting. Like I said "Community Server"


    Weird, this post just ended with </p>. Well, at least it contains the wonderful <p><blockquote>



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @Ben L. said:

    What if computers no longer use 256-value bytes?
    Then you glue two of them together.

    You're stuck in traffic and you don't have any byte-glue available.  Now what do you do?




  • @DaveK said:

    @Lorne Kates said:
    @Ben L. said:
    What if computers no longer use 256-value bytes?
    Then you glue two of them together.
    You're stuck in traffic and you don't have any byte-glue available.  Now what do you do?
    Clue goo?

     



  • @DaveK said:

    You're stuck in traffic and you don't have any byte-glue available.  Now what do you do?

    RAMMING SPEED


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    @boomzilla said:

    @DaveK said:
    You're stuck in traffic and you don't have any byte-glue available.  Now what do you do?

    RAMMING SPEED


    BCTFY



  • @mott555 said:

    I wonder if anyone has ever used Excel to develop a custom spreadsheet application.
     

    The answer is 'Yes';  Not a particularly good or scalable application, but an application.



  • @DaveK said:

    You're stuck in traffic and you don't have any byte-glue available.  Now what do you do?
    Blow up the cars


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    @Medezark said:

    @mott555 said:

    I wonder if anyone has ever used Excel to develop a custom spreadsheet application.
     

    The answer is 'Yes';  Not a particularly good or scalable application, but an application.


    The Inner-Platform Effect



  • @joe.edwards said:

    @boomzilla said:
    @DaveK said:
    You're stuck in traffic and you don't have any byte-glue available.  Now what do you do?

    RAMMING SPEED


    BCTFY

    Please read the updated forum rules: links and references to Monty Python and Army of Darkness videos are now prohibited.



  • @El_Heffe said:

    @DaveK said:

    You're stuck in traffic and you don't have any byte-glue available.  Now what do you do?
    Blow up the cars

    I'll see your Michael Westen and raise you one Blake (aka Fuck You, aka Driving a BMW).



  • @snoofle said:

    I'm beginning to think I'm cursed
    Did you check if thedailywtf was involved in getting you this job just so you could write more articles?


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