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    @Lorne_Kates said:

    @FrostCat said:
    assholepointzzzz

    DICKSXXX!

    *shrug* Maybe he likes those too, I dunno. WHY ARE YOU JUDGING HIM?



  • @loose said:

    But just to give you a flavour: I have driven (and do drive) with my left foot controlling the accelerator

    ... how?

    I'm not even interested in "why", I'm more curious about how? Do you have toothpick legs? Are you a contortionist? Where the fuck does your right leg go when you're doing that?

    @loose said:

    The last Road Traffic Accident I was involved in was over ten years ago

    Why is "Road Traffic Accident" in capitals there?

    BTW, you're talking to someone who understands the concept of "statistics", so that's completely meaningless to me. If you're trying to convince me of something. But it's funny that you're so butthurt over some random person on the Internet you'll never meet calling you a bad driver.

    @loose said:

    dual carriageway

    See, I thought I had British terminology down, but now you're telling me a road for cars is called a "carriageway"?

    @loose said:

    and would have done that but they were driving an automatic and it stalled before they cleared my side of the road.

    I still don't get what the fuck is wrong with your cars on the "carriageway" that you guys are stalling automatics. I mean unless his tank was empty and it stalled due to lack of fuel, I guess...

    @loose said:

    (a HGV and a car)

    HGV is apparently British for "truck".

    @FrostCat said:

    It's not a normal scenario, but I used to have a car with something wrong with a sensor or something, that had a tendency to stall at idle. Until I got it fixed I had to press the gas pedal a little bit at red lights to keep the engine above idle speed, which meant I needed my left foot for the brake.

    "not a normal scenario" = "I was driving a broken-ass car". Gotcha.

    You can assume I'm talking about cars that aren't broken-ass by default.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    You can assume

    With you? I don't think so.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    how?

    Wouldn't you like to know. It's a bit like how do you use a right hand mouse with your left hand, or read upside down or tap your head whilst rubbing your tummy.

    @blakeyrat said:

    Do you have toothpick legs?

    ..yeah, sort of. They are quite long and, whilst not spindly, relatively thin.

    @blakeyrat said:

    Are you a contortionist?

    No, although when younger I could do a limited number of "contortion" like things with my arms, hands and fingers. As I have gotten older I find I can move various limbs into various positions but not back again which sort of leaves me somewhat tied up when it comes to doing stuff.

    @blakeyrat said:

    Where the fuck does your right leg go when you're doing that?

    Initial I didn't know what to do with it. I tried dangling it out of the door but after a while that became a bit wearing. Now I just tuck it away somewhere. Occasionally I would bring it out again to operate the clutch or the break, depending.

    @blakeyrat said:

    Why is "Road Traffic Accident" in capitals there?

    So I didn't have to explain RTA, wait... I just did. Damn it!

    @blakeyrat said:

    a road for cars is called a "carriageway"?

    Yeah it's a sort of left over from (or before) the days before there were cars where people travelled in a horse and carriage (my understanding is that "car" is short for "carriage" - probably because there was not enough time to say "hey, there one of them newfangled carriages" before it was out out sight) This is the legacy of having a heritage and history that goes back a little further than a couple of hundred years. In fact it is so ingrained in our culture that the first cars were called "horseless carriages" because they moved without a horse. (I will let somebody else explain about horse power)

    @blakeyrat said:

    that you guys are stalling automatics

    Did I forget to mention that it was an American Car? Driven by some enthusiast that may have gotten confused in the operation of it. This was fortunate for him because even though I had almost completed a 90° spin, I piled half way into his car. I was knocked out when my head slammed into my door pillar (long legs), falling onto and locking the doors in the process (do I need to explain about the little door locking knob and central locking?). Anyway: the other drive claimed he stalled but maybe he was trying to mitigate his lack of judgement.

    @blakeyrat said:

    HGV is apparently British for "truck".

    This has been previously explained elsewhere and else when within the dark and dismal cavern of discoforum.

    Brought to you after more time spent editing and revising before posting, curtsey of the @blakeyrat's appreciation sociopathy :)



  • @loose said:

    So I didn't have to explain RTA, wait... I just did. Damn it!

    So you were defining an acronym you never used.

    But you didn't define HGV.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    So you were defining an acronym you never used.

    Yes. This is what happens if you approach posting a reply in an unstructured and haphazard manner. Or if you had interned to use it then changed your mind. Or you were baiting.

    @blakeyrat said:

    But you didn't define HGV.

    @loose said:

    This has been previously explained elsewhere and else when within the dark and dismal cavern of discoforum.

    I will leave it to the student(s) to figure out the reason for the non-use of RTA, that suits their individual needs.



  • @Cursorkeys said:

    What vehicle is that? That sounds very difficult to set off in if the gearing on first is so long

    Suzuki Hayabusa with lots of engine work.

    @Cursorkeys said:

    but I guess with those kind of speeds it has bags of torque?

    Torque has fuck-all to do with top speed, but it has plenty of it. Jay Leno's jet bike goes 200mph, but only makes 28 foot pounds of torque at the turbine. They list it as 425 foot pounds, but that is measured after the first gear reduction, so that's cheating.


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    @loose said:

    So I didn't have to explain RTA, wait... I just did. Damn it!

    They're called RTCs.





  • Yeah right, next you'll be saying that it is also an MVC 🚎



  • @loose said:

    So I didn't have to explain RTA, wait... I just did. Damn it!

    You could just call it an "accident" since we're obviously talking about automobiles, the context kind of implies the "road traffic" part.

    @loose said:

    (my understanding is that "car" is short for "carriage" - probably because there was not enough time to say "hey, there one of them newfangled carriages" before it was out out sight) This is the legacy of having a heritage and history that goes back a little further than a couple of hundred years. In fact it is so ingrained in our culture that the first cars were called "horseless carriages" because they moved without a horse. (I will let somebody else explain about horse power)

    tl;dr: @loose is a pretentious asshole who thinks that cars have been around longer than the US.

    @loose said:

    Did I forget to mention that it was an American Car?

    :WTF: has that got to do with anything? I've driven European made vehicles, American made vehicles, and Japanese made vehicles. They all work the same. I suppose there could be some confusion if you imported a vehicle that was made for a different market (such as living in England and importing a car intended for the US market).



  • How do rats drive anyway? Oh, you don't, April drives. You rarely even ride along in their van, never leaving the sewers, while those turtles do all the crime fighting.


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    @Jaime said:

    Suzuki Hayabusa with lots of engine work.

    Nice. I'm far too much of a wimp to get a bike but the Hayabusa is a very good looking thing.

    @Jaime said:

    Torque has fuck-all to do with top speed, but it has plenty of it. Jay Leno's jet bike goes 200mph, but only makes 28 foot pounds of torque at the turbine. They list it as 425 foot pounds, but that is measured after the first gear reduction, so that's cheating.

    I meant if it was a road car it would be a bugger to get off the line with those gearings without a load of torque to help you from stalling? But yeah in a gear-train power is constant (ignoring losses) and you need to consider angular velocities.

    The MTT bike is an fearsome thing. With those specs it's probably a 250-C20 in there not a C18 as the web says. I make it 73 foot-pounds at the power turbines (two-stage PT) as the rated speed is 35,000 RPM on the turbine and 6,016 RPM on the output shaft. That's not marketing fluff by MTT as all the engine manufacturers give you the specs at the output shaft not the PT itself before the internal gearbox.

    If you'd like an upgrade for your bike I have a Russian copy (GTD-350) of the Allison 250-C18 for sale, lovely engine but a bit thirsty to run...weighs a bit too 😄



  • @fbmac said:

    How do rats drive anyway? Oh, you don't, April drives. You rarely even ride along in their van, never leaving the sewers, while those turtles do all the crime fighting.

    Uh, CASEY JONES MORON!



  • @Cursorkeys said:

    If you'd like an upgrade for your bike I have a Russian copy (GTD-350) of the Allison 250-C18 for sale

    I do like the story about Jay melting the bumper of a car behind him while in traffic...

    Every year I have to talk myself out of buying one of these. 550HP sounds like fun.

    However, if I go much over my current 220HP, I won't be able to get power to the ground without some kind of modification that compromises handling. Without dedicated drag tires, an extended swing arm, and/or lowering the suspension, any more horsepower just makes wheelies or burnouts.



  • @aliceif said:

    Or he is a strong proponent of left-foot braking ...

    I think we've had this flamewar before.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Who the fuck taught you how to drive?

    Like most people, probably nobody. I don't know why this is considered normal but it is. Imagine getting in a plane with a pilot who says "I never went to pilot school, my mum showed me a few things then let me loose to work it out on my own. Oh, she never even did a test to get her licence."



  • @FrostCat said:

    I used to have a car with something wrong with a sensor or something, that had a tendency to stall at idle

    Is this the same car that has four different tyres with four different tread patterns and four different wear levels?

    Mandatory roadworthiness inspections were made because of people like you.



  • @Jaime said:

    550HP sounds like fundeath on wheels.

    I took my old man's Hyabusa for a test ride once. When I got back I asked "What are the other three gears for?".


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    @another_sam said:

    Is this the same car that has four different tyres with four different tread patterns and four different wear levels?

    Both of them were safe, you big whiny crybaby.


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    @FrostCat said:

    Both of them were safe, you big whiny crybaby.

    Having seen a tyre blowout at speed, that's not an experience you want. Really glad I wasn't in that car…


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    @dkf said:

    Having seen a tyre blowout at speed

    Dude. I said like 800 times, between the evening I noticed it (and AT MOST the day before that which is the earliest it could have happened) and the next day when I had it fixed, I didn't go faster than 40mph. I live in the same city in which I work--I got no reason to be driving at speed.

    And I've BEEN in a car--driving, as a matter of fact--when I had a tire blowout at about 40, about 15 years ago, due to road debris, so I already know what that's like.

    Apparently if Europeans discover they've got a separated tread like 2 miles from home when all traffic is about 25mph, plus maybe 1/4 mile at 40mph, they need to stop and have a good cry before calling a tow truck.


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    @FrostCat said:

    they need to stop and have a good cry before calling a tow truck.

    That's not true. Some of us cry while changing the tyre for the spare.


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    @loopback0 said:

    Some of us cry while changing the tyre for the spare.

    It's your fault for getting those fancy low-profile tyres…


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    @dkf said:

    @loopback0 said:
    Some of us cry while changing the tyre for the spare.

    It's your fault for getting those fancy low-profile tyres…

    They ain't - I hate low profile tyres.



  • Rankled.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    Rankled.

    Oh look, it's Captain Sunshine.

    You ever been driving a car when you got a flat tire?

    I feel I got at least an A-rank since nobody got hurt and nothing got damaged other than the tire itself.

    I'd give Ford a C- for their compact spare, though.


  • FoxDev

    @FrostCat said:

    You ever been driving a car when you got a flat tire?

    Yes.

    my first car had a flat for i'm not sure how long before my mechanic screamed at me about it.

    at that time my commute was about a mile in city and traffic was to the point that 15MPH was about as fast as i could go.

    tyre was toast, but the rim was still good (steel rims FTW) and now i always park so that i approach my car from the passenger side so i can check those tyres too.

    i'd gibe myself a B- at best for that one because although no one got hurt i really should have noticed that i'd had a flat long enough that the rim had almost completely cut though the steel webbing in the tyre.


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    @accalia said:

    Yes.

    my first car had a flat for i'm not sure how long before my mechanic screamed at me about it.

    at that time my commute was about a mile in city and traffic was to the point that 15MPH was about as fast as i could go.

    There is, in fact, a difference between 15mph driving and developing a flat at 35-40mph. And again at highway speed. I've never had a flat at highway speed but I've been in a car at least once where it happened.

    At 40mph I would say it's probably not a huge deal if you don't panic. Just get over to the side of the road as fast as you safely can.


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    @FrostCat said:

    And again at highway speed. I've never had a flat at highway speed but I've been in a car at least once where it happened.

    At highway speeds (about 75 in the case I observed earlier this year) it sounds like an explosion and spreads fragments of tyre over a couple of lanes. That's when you want your wheel arches to be nice and strong so that the shrapnel doesn't enter the passenger compartment!

    I was lucky enough to be far enough back to be able to just drive around the debris field.


  • FoxDev

    @FrostCat said:

    There is, in fact, a difference between 15mph driving and developing a flat at 35-40mph.

    there is indeed.

    i've gotten flats at highway speed before. they're not fun, but keep your wits about you and they're not that dangerous so long as you pull over ASAP and either call for a tow or put on the spare.

    a blow out on the other hand......

    no matter what speed i'm traveling at. there's no way a sedan is taking that gracefully!


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    @dkf said:

    That's when you want your wheel arches to be nice and strong so that the shrapnel doesn't enter the passenger compartment!

    I have to say I have never heard someone be concerned about this before, if we're talking about car/van/pickup truck tires (as opposed to, like 18-wheeler-sized ones.) Just how thin are they making car bodies where you are?


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    @accalia said:

    Yes.

    my first car had a flat for i'm not sure how long before my mechanic screamed at me about it.

    Even at 15mph cars handle noticeably different with a flat, especially if it's on the front :facepalm:


  • FoxDev

    @FrostCat said:

    I have to say I have never heard someone be concerned about this before,

    I for one have never heard of a car tyre doing that for a flat.

    a blow out, yeah that's rubber shrapnel city, but the steel band tends to keep it in fairly large pieces so there's not that big of a deal from a going through the body work perspective.

    i've also seen retreads thrown their new treads, and they look pretty similar to a blowout.

    but a flat? never seen a flat do that.


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    @FrostCat said:

    Just how thin are they making car bodies where you are?

    As thin as they can get away with would be the usual answer. There might be regulations in this area; I dunno…


  • FoxDev

    @loopback0 said:

    Even at 15mph cars handle noticeably different with a flat, especially if it's on the front :facepalm:

    yeah. that was not one of my prouder moments.

    but at the time it was my first car and i'd had it less than six months.... not that that's much of an excuse....



  • @FrostCat said:

    You ever been driving a car when you got a flat tire?

    Yes.

    On 520 westbound, right before the (old) floating bridge. Where there's no shoulder except this tiny 6' strip of concrete.

    I ended up calling 911 and got a highway helper truck to come help out with his flashing lights. I didn't need help changing the spare, I just wanted flashing lights to keep people from racing past me at 3" and 75 MPH. Guy who came out was awesome. Glad my tax money was paying his salary.



  • @dkf said:

    That's when you want your wheel arches to be nice and strong so that the shrapnel doesn't enter the passenger compartment!

    That's bordering on paranoid. The front wheel well is on the other side of the firewall and your feet are inboard of the path of the tire.

    I've seen motorcycles in "burnout pits" at bike nights that have smoked the rear tire until it blows. Quite a while before it blows, the steel belts are freed from the rubber. Good bike tires have a set of circumferential belts that break and become a spinning blade. I've seen many belts cut through the rear mud flap and the license plate, yet I've never seen anyone get hurt.



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  • @accalia said:

    my commute was about a mile

    Walk. It's better for you and better for your car. Apart from the driving on a flat tyre thing, short trips destroy your oil and your catalytic converter or DPF if you have either.

    @accalia said:

    15MPH was about as fast as i could go

    Maybe walking would be quicker too.


  • FoxDev

    @another_sam said:

    Walk.

    in Winter? in MAINE?!

    belgium that!



  • @accalia said:

    in Winter? in MAINE?!

    I didn't say you had to do it naked, but whatever floats your boat. 15 minutes exposure won't be dangerous unless it's windy.

    You have to walk to the car, why not just... keep going?



  • Why not?


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    @another_sam said:

    Walk.

    ROFL. I don't know about where Accalia lives, but I want you to look at this map:

    https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9608439,-96.8423708,4947m/data=!3m1!1e3

    Zoom in, use Street view, etc., and examine the stretch of Midway from Keller Sprints to Belt Line, and tell me if you'd be willing to ride a bike on that or walk it day-in, day-out, in rush hour traffic.

    I've done both, more than once, and you'd be insane to do it on a daily basis. That's not the street I commute on but it's similar to that one.


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    @accalia said:

    @another_sam said:
    Walk.

    in Winter? in MAINE?!

    belgium that!

    Yeah, there's that too.


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    @another_sam said:

    15 minutes exposure won't be dangerous unless it's windy.

    The average temperature in Portland is about 24F for about 3-4 months, and Maine's pretty windy. I've walked in that kind of weather and it's not much fun.



  • @FrostCat said:

    I've walked in that kind of weather and it's not much fun.

    What is wrong with it? It's not even in single digits.


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    @locallunatic said:

    What is wrong with it?

    It's cold, is what's wrong with it!

    Says the guy who moved from a place where it was even colder, to Dallas by way of Florida.



  • Why would you go from reasonable to hellhole?


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    @locallunatic said:

    Why would you go from reasonable to hellhole?

    I didn't. YMMV.


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