EVE Online considering using disc horse
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@Magus I was thinking of possibly making a beatstick-tank kind of character, possibly. Maybe that's something I'll start and screw around with this week.
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@e4tmyl33t The main thing to remember is that if you go for 2h, you're going to be taking a lot of damage. You can somewhat counter that with high damage and leech, but just remember that you'll be relatively vulnerable.
What you get out of Gladiator (Duelist) is a couple of nice shield nodes and, most importantly, powerful bleed nodes that make up for the lack of damage you'd have with a 1h weapon normally.
Champion can get permanent fortify (20% less damage taken) which can be buffed even more, so you have a bit more freedom that way.
There are lots of ways to build for decent survivability, but you definitely need to think carefully about it and get massive amounts of HP.
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@e4tmyl33t said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
You train up to 17 million skillpoints and then die. If you hadn't upgraded your clone to "Delta", which could do, say, 20 million, you'd lose the 2 million skillpoints you earned beyond what Gamma could retain.
IIRC you never lost the full amount, but
some percentage of them~25% of your highest SP skill.I can't find any docs on the old mechanics thoughGoon Wiki helps againEither way, it was a money drain that should have been reimplemented sooner than it was. It was punishing, but there was really no good reason for it to be so.
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@JazzyJosh I'm not too sure on it myself, since I always made sure my clones were up to date during the time I played while that was still active so I never actually experienced it first-hand. Though I'm wary of trusting any link that has the word goons in it (grr goons), I'll take it as valid :D
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@e4tmyl33t grr goons
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@bb36e said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@all_users going to other people's forums to bash on Discourse sounds dickish.
tdwtf has been mentioned now https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6581554#post6581554
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@ydna said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@bb36e said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@all_users going to other people's forums to bash on Discourse sounds dickish.
tdwtf has been mentioned now https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6581554#post6581554
Quoted for posterity (and for those who may not be able to get there anonymously or whatever):
Edit: @glathull !
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@Tsaukpaetra said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
Quoted for posterity (and for those who may not be able to get there anonymously or whatever):
@glathull (if it is indeed the same user) said in Seriously CCP! It's 2016! Where is the smartphone layout for forums???
If anyone thinks these forums are buggy and problematic, go take a look at the daily wtf.
Well technically, no. We're no longer using discourse, and anyone coming here after that post probably won't realise that, unless they're directly linked to that thread.
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@all_users maybe his argument is that nodebb is worse and discohorse is actually useable
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@groo said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@all_users maybe his argument is that nodebb is worse and discohorse is actually useable
Someone who has forum access over there should message his to be sure.
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I went and put up a clarification post immediately under that one.
Edit: Hope I linked the right thread (the Discopocalypse one). If not, whoops :D
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@e4tmyl33t said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
Hope I linked the right thread (the Discopocalypse one).
It's the one I was thinking of, yes.
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They went and did it.
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@ydna Indeed they did, I saw the reddit post about the dev blog announcing it.
I haven't been subscribed to it for quite a while now, since my last alliance selfdestructed and I decided to rejoin a friend in WOW when Legion launched, but I did notice that after they made the change to their systems to make it basically two-tier subscriptions (basically free-to-play with limitations on skills and ships you can train unless you upgrade to a paid subscription), my skillqueues kicked back in and finished training all the stuff that was sitting in them, which got one of my alts a hilarious chunk closer towards jump freighters and/or carriers/dreadnoughts.
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@e4tmyl33t said in EVE Online considering using disc horse:
@ydna Indeed they did, I saw the reddit post about the dev blog announcing it.
I haven't been subscribed to it for quite a while now, since my last alliance selfdestructed and I decided to rejoin a friend in WOW when Legion launched, but I did notice that after they made the change to their systems to make it basically two-tier subscriptions (basically free-to-play with limitations on skills and ships you can train unless you upgrade to a paid subscription), my skillqueues kicked back in and finished training all the stuff that was sitting in them, which got one of my alts a hilarious chunk closer towards jump freighters and/or carriers/dreadnoughts.
Wait, so all that crap I had in my SQ is all trained now? Now I kinda want to log in just to stage some more training.
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@pydsigner I wouldn't if I were you. They've announced that they're going to be taking action against blatant "ghost training" abuse like that, since it seems to be a bug in the way the skillqueue works with some other new bit. I think mine might slip by because it's clearly an inactive account (as in I don't even log in to do anything with the free way to play) but I know that some of the people that were abusing it to farm skill injectors got a bunch of their ISK and assets stripped from them.