Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work
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@Magus said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
@coldandtired Indeed, such a thing is likely to make them both cold and tired.
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@theBread That's because it's blatantly obvious. Also enough derailing Blakey's thread.
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@Magus The rage train uses no rails, so you can't derail it
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@coldandtired said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
As a technical diver
Inspo, KISS, Meg or other?
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@Magus The nickname comes from when I was teaching diving and it was pretty much a constant state for a couple of years :(
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@lolwhat The original Buddy Inspiration (number 68, I believe).
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@coldandtired said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
technical diver
The best kind of diver.
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@Boner said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
The best kind of diver.
I think you forgot Muff
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@Jaloopa Or Holy.
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Ok, so I'm not @blakeyrat, but this feels like a good fit for this thread:
"How do I play a character alignment designed to be in conflict with other members in my party without any problems occurring?"
I especially like the lowest voted answer from yesterday - "don't be a rules lawyering douchebag"
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@izzion said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Ok, so I'm not @blakeyrat, but this feels like a good fit for this thread:
You're wrong.
Make your own thread. They're free.
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@blakeyrat don't be a rules lawyering douchebag.
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@anotherusername Are you looking to be the lowest-voted post in this thread? :)
(I have not downvoted your post)
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@FrostCat I'd settle for +2.
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I like the naivety of the asker here. Charles Schwab (like all brokers) settles in 3 days because:
- The law doesn't require them to do it any faster, and
- The longer they have your money, the more interest they can make off it.
Every financial institution is incentivized to hold your money for as long as legally possible.
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@blakeyrat Hah. This person's mind'd be blown by the implications of Check 21, where if you write a check to someone, if he deposits it, his bank can take the money out of your account and sit on it for several days before giving it to him. IIRC it was originally "5 days for amounts over $100" but it's been years since I looked into this.
But yeah, the answer's always "the float". You should see the borderline scam that is worker's comp insurance.
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@FrostCat I did like the story in that post about the German bank that started doing a 1-day policy and it eventually cascaded to the entire German banking industry. That'd be nice to have here.
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@blakeyrat said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
That'd be nice to have here.
Agree. With computers, there's no reason they can't settle shit more or less instantly. But doing that would take away all that float, and the banks simply aren't going to do that without being forced.
Plus, with the current "settle at midnight Pacific" or whatever the actual time that's used now, the banks can fuck people over the way some of them did in the past--one bank, I think Wells Fargo, was doing, or at least threatening to do, this thing for a while where they would reorder your transactions and process them in reverse dollar order, that is, biggest first, instead of in chronological order, because that made it more likely to create an overdraft situation.
Ever since the change a few years ago, my bank begs me every once in a while to think about how embarrassed I'd be if my debit card was declined, and how I should really set up an overdraft protection link to my other account. My attitude is since I'm not the kind of asshole who'd be in an Amex commercial whining about my power lunch, I'd rather be declined than face a $35 overdraft fee (or a $10 fee just to switch money from one account to another to avoid an overdraft fee. Yes, they actually do that.)
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@FrostCat My credit union has automatic overdraft protection for my check card. If I am charged on it with insufficient funds in my credit account and the overdraft amount can be covered by a (free!) transfer from my savings account, they will do that for me. If I try to pay with it, though, it will be declined, which is no big deal. I can just call them up, get someone in ~5 minutes, and perform the (again, free!) transfer over the phone.
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@djls45 said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
My credit union has automatic overdraft protection for my check card. If I am charged on it with insufficient funds in my credit account and the overdraft amount can be covered by a (free!) transfer from my savings account, they will do that for me.
Must be nice. Wells Fargo views its customer base more like a vampire views people.
@djls45 said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
If I try to pay with it, though, it will be declined, which is no big deal. I can just call them up, get someone in ~5 minutes, and perform the (again, free!) transfer over the phone.
Yep--I've done that, too, although the only couple of times that's happened, if I'd had enough cash on hand, I'd just pay.
One of the thinks I like a lot about my company is that payday is the day the pay period closes, not "the next Friday" like so many places do. Oh, and direct deposit is done the previous banking day, not the next, if payday would fall on a non-banking day (that is, if payday is the 15th and that's a holiday Monday, I get paid on Friday the 12th instead of Tuesday the 16th.
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@FrostCat said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Wells Fargo views its customer base more like a vampire views people.
My brother was a call center manager at a bank, but he didn't have an account there. He does all his banking through our credit union.
My wife had a Wells Fargo account from before we were married, until we realized that they were charging her for simply having an account with less than $5000 (maybe it was $3000) in it and not depositing into it every month. That got closed real fast.
One of the thinks I like a lot about my company is that payday is the day the pay period closes, not "the next Friday" like so many places do. Oh, and direct deposit is done the previous banking day, not the next, if payday would fall on a non-banking day (that is, if payday is the 15th and that's a holiday Monday, I get paid on Friday the 12th instead of Tuesday the 16th.
My employer has employees internationally, so payday is always every other Friday. I set up direct deposit as soon as I was hired, so I don't know how they handle checks on holidays. (My direct deposits are available immediately, too.)
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@djls45 said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
My wife had a Wells Fargo account from before we were married, until we realized that they were charging her for simply having an account with less than $5000 (maybe it was $3000) in it and not depositing into it every month. That got closed real fast.
Good idea. In my case, I work for a company that wants to pay via direct deposit, so it's not a problem.
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@djls45 said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
My employer has employees internationally, so payday is always every other Friday.
Heh. Payday can be whatever the company wants, subject to any local laws. I'm paid semimonthly, on the 15th and last days of the month.
@djls45 said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
I set up direct deposit as soon as I was hired, so I don't know how they handle checks on holidays.
The last time I worked retail, each store got its employees' checks first thing in the morning on payday. People usually just went in to get them, even if it was their day off. But payday was typically the Thursday following the period end date, which was the previous Friday, so you always got paid a week "late". The best other place that paid me via check, mailed checks out. Typically p/e was the 5th and 20th, and you'd get your check in the mail (IIRC) 5 days later. If a holiday would impinge on generating the payroll, the company would do that a day early.
The built-in 5 or 6 day lag means employees never really see their check late, unless there's a mail problem.
That's what I like about my company, that payday is on the period end date (or before it!), not 5-6 days later.
If your company chooses to use something like ADP, and has them not just print your check, but pay it as well, the company will have to send money to ADP at least two days before payday.
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@djls45 said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
My wife had a Wells Fargo account from before we were married, until we realized that they were charging her for simply having an account with less than $5000 (maybe it was $3000) in it and not depositing into it every month. That got closed real fast.
When I was transitioning out of my Wells Fargo checking account, I transferred in a small amount so I would have a "direct deposit" that statement period.
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@FrostCat said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
One of the thinks I like a lot about my company is that payday is the day the pay period closes, not "the next Friday" like so many places do. Oh, and direct deposit is done the previous banking day, not the next, if payday would fall on a non-banking day (that is, if payday is the 15th and that's a holiday Monday, I get paid on Friday the 12th instead of Tuesday the 16th.
Is that not standard in America? I haven't received my pay after the pay period since I started working "proper" jobs instead of casual restaurant work
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@Jaloopa said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Is that not standard in America? I haven't received my pay after the pay period since I started working "proper" jobs instead of casual restaurant work
It is fairly typical for payday to be ~6 days after the end of the pay period. It's probably a historical thing from when it took a while to figure out taxes and shit with pen and paper, or something stupidly obsolete when any 3-person company can use Quickbooks. My current company is probably the first place I've ever worked where payday was period end, but it's not as if I've had dozens of jobs.
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@Jaloopa said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Is that not standard in America? I haven't received my pay after the pay period since I started working "proper" jobs instead of casual restaurant work
I don't think I've ever gotten paid on the last day of the pay period. Pretty much always a week later. Does paying on the last day of the period cause a lot of errors that have to be corrected the next period?
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@boomzilla you guys get paid?!
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@boomzilla said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Does paying on the last day of the period cause a lot of errors that have to be corrected the next period?
No, provided the basis for pay is correct. If you're paying a set amount per month to each employee and there's no overtime to worry about, getting the correct payments at the end is pretty simple.
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@boomzilla places that pay per hour are usually a week in arrears. Salaried jobs are much simpler.
Of course, it might be more error prone when there's someone writing out physical cheques rather than using a BACS system
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@Jaloopa And of course, mixed shops (contractors + employees, or salaried + hourly) end up going with the needs of the more demanding half.
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@Yamikuronue I used to work for a place that paid a salary, plus an hourly "bonus" for time spent on site (it was a contracting agency with a slightly odd business model. @CarrieVS knows what I'm talking about). They paid the salary part at the end of the month, and the hourly rate a month in arrears. It was only £2 an hour, so not the main part of the pay packet, and it also meant that when I left I got a bit of money the next month as well.
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Newbie programmer learns the glories of Python's Global Interpreter Lock, GIL, which makes threads fucking useless in that garbage language.
Yes, it's slower because Python has only one level of object lock and it locks FUCKING EVERYTHING.
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@Jaloopa said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
and the hourly rate a month in arrears.
IIRC in the US (it may only be in some states) it's illegal to be more than a week or a pay period in arrears with pay. Companies would withhold someone's first paycheck to make sure they stayed around for at least a couple of weeks before those laws.
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@blakeyrat said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Python's Global Interpreter Lock, GIL,
Does Python do the same if you compile it instead of interpret it?
(Can it be compiled? If so, do people compile it often? If so, (rhetorically) why doesn't the interpreter work as much like the compiler as possible?)
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@djls45 I know it has a "just-in-time" compiler, but I don't know if that solves the GIL problem-- I'm virtually certain it does not though.
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@FrostCat said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Companies would withhold someone's first paycheck to make sure they stayed around for at least a couple of weeks
Here most jobs have a 4 week notice period although it's often shorter during a probationary period.
Plus, even if you leave BACS payments mean you don't have to come in to collect
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@Jaloopa said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Here most jobs have a 4 week notice period although it's often shorter during a probationary period.
I don't mean a notice period. The company simply wouldn't give you your first paycheck on your first scheduled payday.
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@blakeyrat said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
it's slower because Python
That's all you really need to say. Though adding “is fucking shit done by a lamebrain who should never have been let lose on a proper computer” would be fine too. The real fun comes when someone sends a signal to the Python process while it is busy working. It makes everything worse!
The Python implementations on the .NET CLR and the JVM are much better. They weren't done by ignorant fuckweasels.
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@blakeyrat said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
I don't know if that solves the GIL problem
Probably not. The memory model in use is really difficult to fix without redoing lots of things from the start. There have been some attempts to do that, but they've produced languages that are only close relatives, not exactly the same.
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@dkf That jives with my admittedly cursory knowledge, which is the GIL is the result of a design issue, not merely incompetents making Python interpreters/compilers.
C# somehow manages to do everything Python does, plus have real threading. C# is admittedly newer, but. Still.
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@blakeyrat
multiprocessing
is a way to circumvent the problem (as the answer says), but anyway doing computationally intensive tasks inside the Python interpreter will yield poor performance, as everything is a dynamically typed object and even 1+2 is probably involves several objects and function calls.
Performance is sacrificed for speed of development, which has its value in some use cases.However, external (not Python but machine code) libraries have none of these limitations - if you are inside an external library code you can release the GIL.
This is how Python is used for computationally intensive numeric/scientific tasks - calculations happen in compiled libs like Numpy or OpenCV. Only one Python func call is needed for the library to do some high level operation on a whole image for example.I find Python useful for connecting libraries/services that do the actual processing.
Also, it is a great replacement for shell scripts.
But I would not choose it for a bigger project.
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@blakeyrat said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
built by Cardassians,
Filed under: @error reads things a month later and comments about them after everyone has forgotten.
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Another Mason Wheeler sighting!!!
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Question: "What's the cheapest way to get Windows 10 on these three computers?"
Answer: Linux linux linux linux linux linux linux linuxlinuxlinxununxunxjix;ixkxioj
Comments: More linux nux lixnuxlinxuluixnxxixlixixn
Jesus. Fuck off.
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@blakeyrat said in Blakeyrat Reads StackOverflow While Bored At Work:
Another Mason Wheeler sighting!!!
You sure do like stalking that guy.
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@blakeyrat To be fair, the mod did tell the guy who answered with "linuxlinuxlinuxlinuxfossfosslinuxgpl/unixlinuxfossfsf" that it wasn't a viable answer for that question and was borderline FOSS evangelism.
Though that same guy kept pushing Linux in the comments even though the OP said "No, not really viable to switch"
To move on to the meta side of things, I present this:
It's not like there's a site dedicated to movies or anything. Hell, let's just include any movies with the slightest hint of supernatural and put them there. I'll say that the movies "Ghost", "Casper", "Field of Dreams", and "The Ghost and Mrs. Muir" are all relevant to science fiction and fantasy.
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@theBread Except that answer still has 24 upvotes and not, as you'd expect, a score of zero. The only saving grace is that the answer that actually reasonably answers the question has more upvotes. Currently. Who knows if it still will a month from now.
Hastur (writer of the shitty LINNUXLINUXUNXUNX answer) also uses the word "individuate" in a comment, which I'm pretty sure is gibberish.
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@theBread Field Of Dreams is like... the prototypical urban fantasy story. If they allow urban fantasy, they have to allow it.
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@blakeyrat I guess you're right there. The annoying part is how there is so much frickin' overlap between the SFF site and M&TV site.