what ginger is your beer
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@fbmac said in What gender is your brain?:
I chose the pizza and mentally throw the beer in the kitchen sink.
There's always root beer and ginger beer.
If you still can't find a beer that you like...
Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
@fbmac said in What gender is your brain?:
I chose the pizza and mentally throw the beer in the kitchen sink.
There's always root beer and ginger beer.
If you still can't find a beer that you like...
Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
There is no alcoholic drink I like. I use soft drinks with pizza.
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@fbmac Root beer is a soft drink.
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@fbmac What @pydsigner just said, and ginger beer is AKA ginger ale, at least in the US.
Does some quick googling Huh. I guess there is a difference, and ginger beer could be slightly alcoholic, since it is fermented. TIL.
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@djls45 said in What gender is your brain?:
What @pydsigner just said, and ginger beer is AKA ginger ale, at least in the US.
No, ginger beer is different than ginger ale here. The beer is usually kind of spicy, but I've never seen any that's alcoholic.
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@boomzilla said in What gender is your brain?:
No, ginger beer is different than ginger ale here. The beer is usually kind of spicy, but I've never seen any that's alcoholic.
Ginger ale is supposed to be kind of spicy. But some people apparently like their beer to taste like watery piss and their ginger ale to taste like Sprite.
The ones who call their product "ginger beer" are probably a bit more serious about capturing the flavor of what it's supposed to contain, so that's a possible explanation for the trend you've noticed.
Anyway, ales are a type of beer, typically with alcohol. We're just conditioned to think of ginger ale or root beer as non-alcoholic soft drinks.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
We're just conditioned to think of ginger ale or root beer as non-alcoholic soft drinks.
So more of a βnot-really-ginger sodaβ?
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@pydsigner said in What gender is your brain?:
@fbmac Root beer is a soft drink.
I'm more into things like Coke, Fanta, Sprite and Guarana.
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@dkf now, typically yes, they're carbonated by directly adding CO2. They can be carbonated by fermentation, and it'll produce a very small amount of alcohol although not enough to really matter to anyone.
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@Gurth said in What gender is your brain?:
@pydsigner said in What gender is your brain?:
Root beer is a soft drink.
I suspect most people outside North America will assume thatβs an alcoholic beverage made using the roots of a plant, or whatever other connotation the word βrootβ conjures up for them based on words in their own language that look like it. Very few will assume anything called βbeerβ is non-alcoholic unless thatβs specifically mentioned.
I realize that, which is why I explained instead of saying "lol you dimwit root beer". Well I guess there were other reasons, but that's one.
@fbmac said in What gender is your brain?:
@pydsigner said in What gender is your brain?:
@fbmac Root beer is a soft drink.
I'm more into things like Coke, Fanta, Sprite and Guarana.
Coke? Bleh. Fanta? The Orange is ok I guess. Sprite? Meh. Guarana? Ok that stuff's good. Tends to be expensive in the US though.
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@anotherusername Ginger Beer tends to be spicier than ale, with a more sharp taste, emphasis on the 'beer'. But it all depends on the quality, so it's very company-dependent. My husband and roommate are really into ginger beer, and they're always hunting down new brands.
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@Yamikuronue they're still exactly the same drink. Just two different styles (more or less ginger flavor) and two different ways of making it (fermentation vs. just adding carbon dioxide), which don't even necessarily always coincide the way you described.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
exactly the same drink.
@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
Just [sic] different styles
@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
and [sic] different ways of making it
E_DOES_NOT_COMPUTE
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@accalia They are exactly the same. Just like Coke and Pepsi.
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@clatter said in What gender is your brain?:
@accalia said in What gender is your brain?
[sic]
*twitch*
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@accalia In that case, sorry, just some derailment.
[sic] indicates that a spelling or grammar mistake in the quoted text has been intentionally preserved.
[...] indicates that some text has been elided from the original.*twitch* because there was a [sic] where I expected a [...].
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@clatter said in What gender is your brain?:
[sic] indicates that a spelling or grammar mistake in the quoted text has been intentionally preserved.
so as the sultanatrix of swypos i should end all my posts with
[sic]
is what i'm hearing? [sic]
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@accalia Finally, a good use case for signatures!
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@clatter said in What gender is your brain?:
@accalia Finally, a good use case for signatures!
now that you mention it........
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
They can be carbonated by fermentation, and it'll produce a very small amount of alcohol although not enough to really matter to anyone.
Hires (Are they still in business? I haven't seen any Hires root beer in years.) used to sell root beer flavor concentrate for brewing one's own root beer. When I was a kid, we had a bottle in the cabinet for years, but never actually made any.
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@fbmac said in What gender is your brain?:
There is no alcoholic drink I like.
@boomzilla said in What gender is your brain?:
No, ginger beer is different than ginger ale here. The beer is usually kind of spicy, but I've never seen any that's alcoholic.
Are you guys trying to set up an "American beer isn't alcoholic either" joke here?
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@another_sam i'm sure it ferments a bit in the horse's bladder
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@another_sam said in What gender is your brain?:
Are you guys trying to set up an "American beer isn't alcoholic either" joke here?
Ain't no joke.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
they're still exactly the same drink. Just two different styles (more or less ginger flavor) and two different ways of making it (fermentation vs. just adding carbon dioxide), which don't even necessarily always coincide the way you described.
When you drink them, they are distinctly different. They are two different drinks.
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@boomzilla they're both the same basic concept (ginger flavored soft drink). You can get widely different variations on the concept, and there are different ways of making it, but there is nothing "wrong" about calling something ginger beer instead of ginger ale or vice versa.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
they're both the same basic concept (ginger flavored soft drink)
Yes.
@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
You can get widely different variations on the concept, and there are different ways of making it, but there is nothing "wrong" about calling something ginger beer instead of ginger ale or vice versa.
Except that anyone who has ever tasted them (in the US, who knows what crazy foreigners drink these days) has tasted dramatically different drinks. Your pendantry is fooling you.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
@boomzilla they're both the same basic concept
by that logic Coke and Pepsi are the same.
they are not. Coke is liquid heaven, and Pepsi is fetid demon piss.
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@accalia said in What gender is your brain?:
by that logic Coke and Pepsi are the same.
aside, those are both "regular" colas. Dr Pepper, OTOH, is a distinct kind of drink.
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@boomzilla said in What gender is your brain?:
aside, those are both "regular" colas
no.... they are distinctly different beverages, with unique flavours and side effects.
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@accalia said in What gender is your brain?:
@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
@boomzilla they're both the same basic concept
by that logic Coke and Pepsi are the same.
they are not. Coke is liquid heaven, and Pepsi is fetid demon piss.
Different scenario. Now you're comparing two distinct brands. Calling Coke Pepsi would be incorrect, and calling Pepsi Coke would also be incorrect.
@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
there is nothing "wrong" about calling something ginger beer instead of ginger ale or vice versa
If you go taste 100 Cokes they'll all taste like Coke, and if you repeat the experiment with Pepsis they'll all taste like Pepsi. Try 100 different brands of ginger ale though, and you'll find that some of them are
incorrectly labeled bottles that actually contain ginger beerall labeled correctly, because there's no difference between ginger ale and ginger beer.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
because there's no difference between ginger ale and ginger beer.
E_INCORRECT
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
Different scenario. Now you're comparing two distinct brands. Calling Coke Pepsi would be incorrect, and calling Pepsi Coke would also be incorrect.
But they're both Cola?
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@anotherusername Try 100 brands of orange soda, you'll find a wide range of flavors there too. I'm not sure your point?
Here's the real experiemnt: take 100 brands of "Ginger _____". Number them and do a blind taste test with the aim to separate them into two groups: the sharper, stronger group and the milder-tasting group. Label the stronger group "ginger beer" and the milder group "ginger ale". Now compare the labels given to the samples with the marketing label given to the original drinks. What's the rate of error? If it's significantly better than random chance, then the labels mean something.
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@accalia said in What gender is your brain?:
@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
because there's no difference between ginger ale and ginger beer.
E_INCORRECT
What's the difference between them, then?
Excluding the alcoholic versions (which are a wholly different thing), they're both soft drinks, both flavored to varying degrees with ginger, and both can be carbonated either by fermenting or not. They're the same thing.
@Yamikuronue said in What gender is your brain?:
Try 100 brands of orange soda, you'll find a wide range of flavors there too. I'm not sure your point?
Now break that range at some arbitrary point and insist that all the ones on one side of the line are "orange soft drinks" instead of orange sodas. It makes just as much sense.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
they're both soft drinks, both flavored to varying degrees with ginger, and both can be carbonated either by fermenting or not. They're the same thing.
and by that logic coke and pepsi are the same thing, and i can tell you that they are not.
coke is edible, and pepsi is liquified radioactive waste.
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@accalia you can only say that because Coke always positively 100% tastes like Coke and Pepsi always positively 100% tastes like Pepsi. That is a distinction which doesn't exist for ginger ale.
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Also, arguing about ginger ale vs ginger beer... weirdest flamewar thread ever? Possibly.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
That is a distinction which doesn't exist for ginger ale.
Ginger ale tastes like ginger ale and ginger beer tastes like ginger beer. there is a distinct and noticable difference between a ginger ale and a ginger beer.
and if you say there isn't then either you've never actually compared the two, or you have no sense of taste.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
Also, arguing about ginger ale vs ginger beer... weirdest flamewar thread ever? Possibly.
Don't start another flamewar in my flamewar thread!!!!!
Hmmm...not blakey enough. Try again...
Will you people stop this stupid shit flamewar that is about different stupid shit than the stupid shit flamewar I already started!! Go make your own stupid shit flamewar thread!!
Better...
Woo...that took a lot out of me. I can't be any more Blakey than that.
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@accalia "ginger ale" is literally just ginger beer that's usually a bit less spicy than ginger beer usually is.
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@Karla if this was discourse the title would've been edited to "what ginger is your beer" by now. And your @blakeyrat impression would need to include a fit about someone editing your title.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
@accalia "ginger ale" is literally just ginger beer that's usually a bit less spicy than ginger beer usually is.
you sir, are wrong.
there is a distinct and noticable difference between the two. your continued insistance is either pointless pendantry or bourne from ignorance. In either case there is no point in continuing to engage with you as you are both wrong and unable or unwilling to correct your false premise.
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@anotherusername said in what ginger is your beer:
@accalia "ginger ale" is literally just ginger beer that's usually a bit less spicy than ginger beer usually is.
Except that companies started using the older term, "ginger beer", after "ginger ale" recipes transformed over time to become much more mellow and bland, no longer tasting much of ginger at all. They wanted to bring back the older, sharper recipes. So now there's a distinct difference.
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@accalia there is a distinct and noticeable difference in brew strength between my preferred coffee and some other people's, but coffee is coffee is coffee. Difference in strength doesn't change what it is, unless you start getting down to a weak tea-like homeopathic dilution of coffee.
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@Yamikuronue that's basically what I said yesterday.
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@anotherusername said in What gender is your brain?:
@accalia there is a distinct and noticeable difference in brew strength between my preferred coffee and some other people's, but coffee is coffee is coffee. Difference in strength doesn't change what it is, unless you start getting down to a weak tea-like homeopathic dilution of coffee.
keep the flames in the right flamewar maybe?
and if it were merely a difference in intensity i wouldn't be arguing here.
A ginger beer has a sharp snap to it and bites. It is heavily flavoured with ginger and is often slightly on the bitter side. Ginger beer is an effective cure for nausea of all sources.
A Ginger ale is sweet, with little to no bite and no sharp snap to the flavour. a ginger ale is lightly flavoured with ginger, to the point that the ginger tones are overpowered by the sugar. Ginger ale is worthless for curing nausea of any source.
Ginger beer is not the same thing as ginger ale, and if you disagree, then find a ginger beer and a ginger ale and actually taste the difference yourself.
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@accalia you're still arguing about the same difference between my coffee and some people's.
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@anotherusername said in what ginger is your beer:
@accalia you're still arguing about the same difference between my coffee and some people's.
no, you are arguing that i am arguing about the same difference between your coffee and others.
i'll say this once more and them i'm muting this thread.
Ginger beer is different than ginger ale. they are prepared differently, they are flavoured differently, they are produced and prepared differently, one has medicinal effects the other has honeopathic medicinal effects only. they are different things entirely.
if you still deny that and call them the same thing then you are either being pointlessly pedantic, or you have a kink in your thinker that will not allow you to process the possibility that these things are different.
in either case it is a waste of my time and effort to try and persuade you of your folly.
good day sir.
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There are actually ginger beers and root beers that are not just slightly alcoholic, but "this is actually beer" alcoholic.
They are good.