βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD
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Poland refused to let Germany beat them at football on Thursday, thus bringing about the end of the world on Friday.
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Primates are pretty smart, right?
Do you think a gorilla could figure out how to use a rifle? Someone ought to do some experiments in that field.
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@coldandtired said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
thus bringing about the end of the world on Friday.
Seriously - if there are trees blowing down the road, are you doing out driving!!!
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@anonymous234 said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Someone ought to do some experiments in that field.
On the one hand sure, on the other hand gorillas are already endangered.
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@AyGeePlus With guns, gorillas could endanger other animals.
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@anonymous234 said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@AyGeePlus With guns, gorillas could endanger other animals.
We should be fine as long as they stay in the mist
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@anonymous234 seems...fair?
A SPECIES WITH NOTHING TO LOSE
A MAN WITH NOTHING TO GAIN
IT'S OUR TURN TO BE POACHEDTHIS FALL
GUERILLA GORILLAS
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Bad idea: 95% vegan food
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@anonymous234 Aside from the fact that building a USB drive into the end of a shovel handle is stupid...
Why oh why didn't they...
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@CoyneTheDup Because then, what would be the point of building that USB drive?
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@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@anonymous234 Aside from the fact that building a USB drive into the end of a shovel handle is stupid...
Why oh why didn't they...
I have one of those! Really wish it had a power-in jack on the end though, the poor thing can't power much more than a flash drive...
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The robot is the first to that makes a 'decision' whether to hurt the person or not.
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@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
The robot is the first to that makes a 'decision' whether to hurt the person or not.
Doesn't look like if to me. Seems the guy specifically out his finger where the automatic hole puncher thing is.
It's like blaming the water dispensed for getting you wet when you put your hand on the switch...Unless of course the video is just illustration (it's 80% "guy holding his finger in front of the camera" so .. ).
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@Tsaukpaetra Oh, sure, this is just a demo.
But imagine it carried to a "logical" conclusion. For example, imagine a medicine-administering robot that gives the "wrong" people saline, while the "right" people get the medicine.
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@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
For example, imagine a medicine-administering robot that gives the "wrong" people saline, while the "right" people get the medicine.
That'd be useful for double-blind clinical trials.
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@dkf said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
That'd be useful for double-blind clinical trials.
unless you could work out which one the robot was giving you. Maybe with a timing attack
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0_1467718321066_6JWZAZ-UFUS-8ehGiUVaqw2.mp4
Edit: No onebox for uploaded videos?
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A SockBot plugin that allows for responses in img tags with data-URI SVG, possibly with LATEX-to-SVG. This should circumvent most of the HTML/CSS restrictions of the site.
CC @sockdevs
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@error said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
with data-URI SVG
PLS NO
Use the upload feature. Inline images can't be cached.
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@error said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
A SockBot plugin that allows for responses in img tags with data-URI SVG, possibly with LATEX-to-SVG. This should circumvent most of the HTML/CSS restrictions of the site.
CC @sockdevs
hmm....... you have my attention......
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@ben_lubar said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@error said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
with data-URI SVG
PLS NO
Use the upload feature. Inline images can't be cached.
Did you not notice which thread this was?
Also, the idea was inspired by the bar charts MafiaBot spits out.
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@accalia said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@error said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
A SockBot plugin that allows for responses in img tags with data-URI SVG, possibly with LATEX-to-SVG. This should circumvent most of the HTML/CSS restrictions of the site.
CC @sockdevs
hmm....... you have my attention......
I was also thinking of EBNF command parsing for @error_bot.
Filed under: Alas, poor @error_bot. I knew him well.
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@error said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@ben_lubar said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@error said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
with data-URI SVG
PLS NO
Use the upload feature. Inline images can't be cached.
Did you not notice which thread this was?
It can be a bad idea without being a terrible use of resources.
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@ben_lubar said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
It can be a bad idea without being a terrible use of resources.
oh, so you are going to resize all those imported avatars to a reasonable size?
my phone cries when loading the site over 3G
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@accalia any specific users with huge avatars?
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@ben_lubar said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@accalia any specific users with huge avatars?
i'd tell you if i had any dev tools on mobile.
you have server access, you can find out much better than I who has overlarge avatars
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@accalia said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
who has overlarge avatars
I mean, I don't like to brag...
Filed under: So tiny .
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@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Oh, sure, this is just a demo.
I think actually the point is that it chooses certain people to stab based on random criteria, which makes it theoretically intelligent enough not to stab someone, but chooses to anyway.
@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
But imagine it carried to a "logical" conclusion. For example, imagine a medicine-administering robot that gives the "wrong" people saline, while the "right" people get the medicine.
What? We already have medicine administering robots. Your advanced IV drips are machine controlled, especially the morphine ones. All the drugs in a hospital floor are usually kept in a little robot that dispenses them to nurses when prompted. It keeps track of where drugs are and keeps nurses free of liability when morphine walks off.
The little robot's not without its own derp moments, though. It has an emergency override for obvious reasons.
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@AyGeePlus said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Oh, sure, this is just a demo.
I think actually the point is that it chooses certain people to stab based on random criteria, which makes it theoretically intelligent enough not to stab someone, but chooses to anyway.
@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
But imagine it carried to a "logical" conclusion. For example, imagine a medicine-administering robot that gives the "wrong" people saline, while the "right" people get the medicine.
What? We already have medicine administering robots. Your advanced IV drips are machine controlled, especially the morphine ones. All the drugs in a hospital floor are usually kept in a little robot that dispenses them to nurses when prompted. It keeps track of where drugs are and keeps nurses free of liability when morphine walks off.
The little robot's not without its own derp moments, though. It has an emergency override for obvious reasons.
This is really about a problem that's existed forever. Computers (thence robots) are stupid and commit crimes on command. It'll be that way until AI's exist, at which point AI's will presumably commit their own crimes.
So who does the programming in Serbia? Will the medical robots there dispense proper medicine to the Croats? Or will it dispense placebo to the Croats and save the medicine for Serbs?
Even right now, in this dispute over self-driving cars, everyone is generally fine with the car killing the occupant to save "ten pedestrians". Then if you ask what about if the car is carrying them personally, the tune changes.
There's always been this tension and now it's getting worse because computers that used to keep books are doing so many more things that influence human life.
The article merely discusses a less abstract problem: one where a human is harmed at the whim of a machine.
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@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Even right now, in this dispute over self-driving cars, everyone is generally fine with the car killing the occupant to save "ten pedestrians".
this being even discussed is ridiculous. if it's my car, fuck the 10 pedestrians
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@candlejack1 said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Even right now, in this dispute over self-driving cars, everyone is generally fine with the car killing the occupant to save "ten pedestrians".
this being even discussed is ridiculous. if it's my car, fuck the 10 pedestrians
And if you're one of the pedestrians?
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@CoyneTheDup then I'm not buying a car, am I?
Would you trust the algorighm to not kill you to avoid 10 pigeons or something else that would confuse it's AI?
what it should do is just brake when something odd happens
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@candlejack1 said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@CoyneTheDup then I'm not buying a car, am I?
Would you trust the algorighm to not kill you to avoid 10 pigeons or something else that would confuse it's AI?
what it should do is just brake when something odd happens
Such as when there's a boulder falling onto the highway, right where you'll slide to a stop?
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@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@candlejack1 said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
@CoyneTheDup then I'm not buying a car, am I?
Would you trust the algorighm to not kill you to avoid 10 pigeons or something else that would confuse it's AI?
what it should do is just brake when something odd happens
Such as when there's a boulder falling onto the highway, right where you'll slide to a stop?
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@CoyneTheDup said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
Even right now, in this dispute over self-driving cars, everyone is generally fine with the car killing the occupant to save "ten pedestrians". Then if you ask what about if the car is carrying them personally, the tune changes.
Honestly I don't care about this question. I'd rather ride in a self-driving car that'd kill me to save ten people than drive it myself because quite honestly the car is better at driving than me. It never zones out. It never gets distracted by hot girls on the side of the road. It never changes the radio station or forgets to check its blind spots. Not to mention when it comes right down to it I don't think I'd hit ten people to save myself. You have to get pretty contrived to construct situations where it's them or you and nothing else can be done, and under those conditions I'd probably hesitate.
The number one cause of accidents is a lapse in attention, which human brains are designed to do pretty regularly to keep an eye out for lions etc.
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@AyGeePlus What they fail to mention is that the car kills them with a built-in machine gun. It has nothing to do with avoiding an accident.
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@AyGeePlus said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
the car is better at driving than me. It never zones out. It never gets distracted by hot girls on the side of the road. It never changes the radio station or forgets to check its blind spots. Not to mention when it comes right down to it I don't think I'd hit ten people to save myself. You have to get pretty contrived to construct situations where it's them or you and nothing else can be done, and under those conditions I'd probably hesitate.
TIL under most conditions I am as efficient as a self-driving car.
Not sure how I feel about that...@AyGeePlus said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
The number one cause of accidents is a lapse in attention, which human brains are designed to do pretty regularly to keep an eye out for lions etc.
Ok, that's better. I require at minimum 12% functional mental resources to drive, recommended 24% as a buffer for unknown situations.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
recommended 24% as a buffer for unknown situations
Like lions, screaming children and so on? (The children really start screaming once the lions get to them!)
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Bad idea: Inviting "bae interns" to get "hella lit"
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If it had said 'calling all interns in the bae area' that would have been hilarious.
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Bad idea: Giving kernel-level access to your computer to a third party "anti-cheat" program that costs money if you want to play the games you already own from another company. http://store.steampowered.com/app/479130/
Bad idea: Not proofreading your advertisement for your spyware whose feature list includes "can run on the same computer as popular multiplayer games with guns in them" and no other features.
Bad idea: Putting the same non-game 5 times on a game store's front page in the "popular new releases" section.
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@ben_lubar You didn't even mention that the company got caught in the past using their customer machines for bitcoin mining.
Steam has finished scraping the bottom of the barrel, and now has dug so far they're confusing earthworms.
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@blakeyrat said in βπ THE BAD IDEAS THREAD:
they're confusing earthworms
That is mostly down to language / dialect issues. The single biggest problem they have is that they cannot swim.
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@loose ... are you hijacking my post about Steam being crappy to give us Malaysian Flight 370 conspiracy theories? Or... what the fuck is that link supposed to be?
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@blakeyrat God!, your mind must be a wonder to explore. Everything in your post came from you. All I done was to extend, literally, your comment about digging down, to its logical and ultimate conclusion. You now have a hole bored through the earth: At one end of which you have worms speaking with (possibly) an Australian accent swimming a few thousand miles off of the south Australian coast.
I'll leave it as an exercise for the student to determine where the barrel is and where the hole starts.
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@loose So your joke is Steam dug a hole so deep that they're in the middle of the ocean south of Australia? I ... guess?
Hilarious joke. And so accessible to the audience.