I hate Lotus Notes
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@fbmac It's a name for applications which provide email and all the other stuff you need for planning and communicating (task lists, calendar, …). I'm kind of surprised you've never heard the term before.
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@asdf I've seen the term on the web, but never got why e-mail+calender deserves a term for it. Everywhere I worket at just called their Exchange server Exchange, and that's it anyway.
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@fbmac said in I hate Lotus Notes:
never got why e-mail+calender deserves a term for it
Probably because there are other products like exchange, and someone wanted to invent a name for the product category.
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@boomzilla I wonder if Matt Newman @matnewman will somehow get notified about this thread where we are talking about Lotus Notes and Matt Newman if we mention Lotus Notes and Matt Newman a lot and say things like Lotus Notes. I don't like Lotus Notes. I have a problem with Lotus Notes. Need Lotus Notes consultant. Lotus Notes advice. How do I do X with Lotus Notes.
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@anonymous234 said in I hate Lotus Notes:
@boomzilla I wonder if Matt Newman @matnewman will somehow get notified about this thread where we are talking about Lotus Notes and Matt Newman if we mention Lotus Notes and Matt Newman a lot and say things like Lotus Notes. I don't like Lotus Notes. I have a problem with Lotus Notes. Need Lotus Notes consultant. Lotus Notes advice. How do I do X with Lotus Notes.
Quick! Snap another core on @anonymous234, he's been corrupted!
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@anonymous234 said in I hate Lotus Notes:
I wonder if Matt Newman @matnewman will somehow get notified about this thread
If so, not from NodeBB. He's set up to not get email notifications.
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@boomzilla but you could change that setting for him...
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@Sumireko said in I hate Lotus Notes:
If you haven't experienced the horrors of Lotus Notes, maybe a quick reading will convince you it's one of the worst programs to ever have been sold on a commercial basis
One interesting comment from the Hall of Shame article:
While many users would at first glance conclude that the "arrow" on the topmost button is an indicator that this is the currently selected button, it is used to indicate that this is a "special" (a.k.a. inconsistent and undesirable) type of button. Clicking on the arrow causes the button to "open" (downward) to reveal a variety of folders. Why the designers chose to use an arrow pointing to the right to indicate downward movement is one of the many mysteries of this program.
The use of a rightward pointing arrow, which, which clicked, becomes downward pointing and opens new content below the clicked item, has now become one of the common ways to show hierarchical trees of information. Lotus was just a decade or so ahead of their time.
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@Jaloopa Or just contact him on Twitter, but that would be too easy and a bit stalkerish.
@devjoe said in I hate Lotus Notes:
The use of a rightward pointing arrow, which, which clicked, becomes downward pointing and opens new content below the clicked item, has now become one of the common ways to show hierarchical trees of information. Lotus was just a decade or so ahead of their time.
True, but usually it's used a context where it's clear it's a tree that you can navigate. In that screenshot it just looks like a button. Even a modern user would have no idea that it's a menu.
(word of the day: in UI, this kind of problem is called a "hidden affordance")
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@anonymous234 said in I hate Lotus Notes:
(word of the day: in UI, this kind of problem is called a "hidden affordance")
And when you see IBM's prices you'll understand why they're hidden from public view.
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@anonymous234 said in I hate Lotus Notes:
Even a modern user would have no idea that it's a menu.
Right. They'd expect a hamburger.
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@anonymous234 said in I hate Lotus Notes:
(word of the day: in UI, this kind of problem is called a "hidden affordance")
Although if we're honest, it's more like an unaffordance.