Say what you will about Babymetal, but...
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@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Dreikin said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Cool :) but they're not anywhere close to indie ;)
Also, try a few of their other songs from that album (no more singles yet that I'm aware of, so no YouTube) - Élan is one of the slower songs.
Well, I mean ... I dunno what's indie and what's not, I am relying on you people to tell me these things. I only pay attention to the Japanese music scene these days. I barely even know what is going on domestically in the US...o_O
That would explain it. They're not domestic US, either - they're Finnish.
Also, I was wrong, they do have another single from that album on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUb1p8fm7Ag
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@Dreikin said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Dreikin said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Cool :) but they're not anywhere close to indie ;)
Also, try a few of their other songs from that album (no more singles yet that I'm aware of, so no YouTube) - Élan is one of the slower songs.
Well, I mean ... I dunno what's indie and what's not, I am relying on you people to tell me these things. I only pay attention to the Japanese music scene these days. I barely even know what is going on domestically in the US...o_O
That would explain it. They're not domestic US, either - they're Finnish.
Also, I was wrong, they do have another single from that album on YouTube:
Will have to get back to you, my girl LiSA dropped her new album in Japan today, and I am kind of obsessed with it right now :D
すごいーーーーーー^_^
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@FrostCat said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Cartoon Network
Oh right, the Powerpuff thing!
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@RaceProUK said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
For me, the music is the main appeal. But then I do listen to a lot of hard rock and heavy metal, so that part of it is right up my alley ;)
I am an heavy metal fan. But there is no amount of drugs in the world that would make me like that shit.
But hey, listen to it all you want, I won't judge you.
There is people that love Céline Dion and even country music after all
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@TimeBandit said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@RaceProUK said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
For me, the music is the main appeal. But then I do listen to a lot of hard rock and heavy metal, so that part of it is right up my alley ;)
But hey, listen to it all you want, I won't judge you.
There is people that love Céline Dion and even country music after allThat's quite big of you. I still haven't forgiven what Garth Brooks has done to Country nor will I ever forgive the Canadians for inflicting Celine Dion and Justin Bieber on us. Never. Somethings are unforgivable.
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@DogsB said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
That's quite big of you. I still haven't forgiven what Garth Brooks has done to Country nor will I ever forgive the Canadians for inflicting Celine Dion and Justin Bieber on us. Never. Somethings are unforgivable.
I'm sure Canada is just glad to have gotten rid of those two
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@DogsB Just pray that no brazilian song gets half the attention those got.
Believe when I say that there's things way worse than those.
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@DogsB said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@TimeBandit said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@RaceProUK said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
For me, the music is the main appeal. But then I do listen to a lot of hard rock and heavy metal, so that part of it is right up my alley ;)
But hey, listen to it all you want, I won't judge you.
There is people that love Céline Dion and even country music after allThat's quite big of you. I still haven't forgiven what Garth Brooks has done to Country nor will I ever forgive the Canadians for inflicting Celine Dion and Justin Bieber on us. Never. Somethings are unforgivable.
But Avril Lavigne!
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@aliceif And the redemption of My Humps!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRmYfVCH2UA
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@flabdablet That reminds me: on the radio this morning, I heard a promo spot that was listing off various types of music you can find on their app. They listed "Romance", followed by a sound clip: Selena Gomez singing "Can't keep my hands to myself".
I miss real love songs :(
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@Yamikuronue Coming right up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yeimyOsdrA
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@Yamikuronue said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
love songs
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In fairness isn't some of their music produced by Yuyoyuppe? He's a pretty fantastic producer in general.
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Highjacking this thread for some not-so-great symphonic metal news: Leaves' Eyes has kicked out Liv Kristine, replacing her with Elina Siirala (of EnkElination). They've already made a video with the new singer:
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@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
and they showed me stuff that was BORING AS FUCK
You did not just diss Fripp and Eno. You did not, you nail-on-a-chalkboard listening masochist.
You want Fripp rocking out? Here's some Fripp rocking out, motherfucker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4kbkzCdSYw
@aliceif said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Evanescence
TIL that's indie. Also, Radiohead?
@Weng said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
fuck, avril lavigne->evanescense->Nightwish is practically speaking, a gateway to an entire world of badassery.
Seeing Avril Lavigne and Nightwish in the same sentence just makes me cringe.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Fripp rocking out?
Oh, just remembered this version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3FUcSHeJJg
Satriani, Steve Vai and Fripp. A bit over the top, but still all kinds of awesome.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
and they showed me stuff that was BORING AS FUCK
You did not just diss Fripp and Eno. You did not, you nail-on-a-chalkboard listening masochist.
You want Fripp rocking out? Here's some Fripp rocking out, motherfucker.
@aliceif said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Evanescence
TIL that's indie. Also, Radiohead?
@Weng said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
fuck, avril lavigne->evanescense->Nightwish is practically speaking, a gateway to an entire world of badassery.
Seeing Avril Lavigne and Nightwish in the same sentence just makes me cringe.
I don't recall dissing fripp in specific, but the song you posted ... yikes ... o_0 Also, no vocals = [coma]
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@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
You want Fripp rocking out? Here's some Fripp rocking out, motherfucker.
Always been quite partial to this one as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nItuhuY1U04
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@flabdablet said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
You want Fripp rocking out? Here's some Fripp rocking out, motherfucker.
Always been quite partial to this one as well:
I will vpn+proxy to defeat youtube's bullshit region locking for music I know I want (such as J-rock), but I don't even know what UMG IS and I already know I don't really care for Fripp.
Sawwy.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Fripp rocking out?
Oh, just remembered this version.
Satriani, Steve Vai and Fripp. A bit over the top, but still all kinds of awesome.Red is a great song. That whole album is great. Unfortunately, neither of those versions are very good.
More Fripp rocking out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvE3dYKHxwU&feature=youtu.be&t=4290
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@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Also, no vocals = [coma]
Ever wrote an application that did something genius, groundbreaking and clever, only to have someone see it and say "yeah, but does it have any cool Javascript shit? No? Well, it just sucks then"?
That's kinda the same feeling.
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@flabdablet said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
someone please tell their guitarist to turn the gain and reverb the fuck DOWN on their amp! Holy shite, I could barely even hear her. My ears are bleeding.
I suppose I should have qualified ... I look for good J-rock o_0
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@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
such as J-rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGzrL8J0t-c
Filed under: for certain definitions of rock
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@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Also, no vocals = [coma]
Ever wrote an application that did something genius, groundbreaking and clever, only to have someone see it and say "yeah, but does it have any cool Javascript shit? No? Well, it just sucks then"?
That's kinda the same feeling.
I mean ... listen ... I wholeheartedly approve of everyone loving their own thing (as long as it is legal and moral... looking at you, Boomy=_=). You like music with no vocals? Mazel tov! I, myself, do not. I will listen to classical music without vocals such as Bach, Motzart, Tchaikovsky, etc. But modern music? Nope. Sawwy. My dislike of such things should in no way hinder your enjoyment of them, though. And hey, you won't be fighting me for tickets to the show that way, right? :D
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@El_Heffe said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Unfortunately, neither of those versions are very good.
Well, Fripp's famously stingy with copyrights, so hard to find the proper versions on YouTube.
Hope the old man makes it until September, got the tickets for their new lineup booked. Sadly Belew's no longer playing with them, but I've already seen his Power Trio twice, so that kinda makes up for it.
Have some more rocking. Also, Julie Slick <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=182cxr_F7Q4
(it even has vocals! Well, kinda.)
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@flabdablet Fine, more Fripp.
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@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
I look for good J-rock
Why is "that it comes from Japan" important to you?
Fripp and Toyah.
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Also, Fripp's fuckin' lost it. He used to be able to do this by himself, now he needs 19 backing guitarists and can't convince Peter to do the vocals.
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@tufty said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
I look for good J-rock
Why is "that it comes from Japan" important to you?
Fripp and Toyah.
It actually isn't important to me that it comes from Japan. I do, however, understand a lot of Japanese, so that makes it doubly easy to seek music in Japan. But, at the core, the type of music I am looking for is VERY HARD for me to find in the English speaking world. The best I have found in the last few years is Lindsey Stirling's experiment with Lzzy Hale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49tpIMDy9BE
I am looking for:- female vocals (not negotiable)
- soaring/rising & holding
- VERY FAST
- Rock.
That is EASY to find in Japanese music. Like, stupidly easy. Like, you can throw a rock in a music store in Japan and have a 1 in 20 chance of finding that. In the English music world ... that same rock will find that maybe 1 in 1000 times, if that. =_=
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Either you don't know where to look, or you don't look very far.
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@tufty said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Also, Fripp's fuckin' lost it.
Looks quite okay to me...
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@tufty said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Also, Fripp's fuckin' lost it. He used to be able to do this by himself, now he needs 19 backing guitarists and can't convince Peter to do the vocals.
Fripp's not even in there. That's just a bunch of his former guitar students.
Peter who? That song was original sung by Greg Lake.
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@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
female vocals (not negotiable)
soaring/rising & holding
VERY FAST
Rock.I'unno...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGF7bJdn6zI&t=1m18s
Emilie Autumn is ridiculous more often than good, but yeah, it fits.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Hope the old man makes it until September
If Fripp had never picked up a guitar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRJ5cCP0ZPE
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@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
female vocals (not negotiable)
soaring/rising & holding
VERY FAST
Rock.I'unno...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGF7bJdn6zI&t=1m18s
Emilie Autumn is ridiculous more often than good, but yeah, it fits.
The song does not fit my criteria. It doesn't soar, rise and hold. It does have female vocals, and it is fast, and rock. But I am looking for ALL of my criteria. That's what makes it hard to find.
Also, I suppose I should have mentioned I also do not care for, at all, depictions of violence against women. =_=
Yes, I realize that the message of the song was fighting back against it, but I can't watch videos like that. I listened to it without watching it once I realized what it was.
Thanks for trying though ;)
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@El_Heffe said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
Fripp's not even in there. That's just a bunch of his former guitar students.
Ah, my bad, I thought that Fripp played with them.
Peter who? That song was original sung by Greg Lake.
Peter Sinfield. I'm not sure, and would have to dig out the dusty old vinyl to check, but I thought it was Sinfield who wrote and vocalised 21st Century Schizoid Man.
[edit] But Wikipedia says no, only writing credits for Sinfield, vocals by Lake. Memory goes crusty.
Also,
Markdown sucks cock.
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@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
soar, rise and hold.
Uh...
...here? I have absolutely no idea what you mean.
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@tufty said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
But Wikipedia says no, only writing credits for Sinfield
Also:
With Emerson, Lake & Palmer[edit]
(...)
Love Beach (1978) – lyricsSomething you really don't want to put on your resume, I suppose.
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@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
I will listen to classical music without vocals such as Bach, Motzart, Tchaikovsky, etc
Motzart?
Virvaldey.
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@flabdablet said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
I will listen to classical music without vocals such as Bach, Motzart, Tchaikovsky, etc
Motzart?
Virvaldey.
i r t3h gud spelar ^_^
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@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
soar, rise and hold.
Uh...
...here? I have absolutely no idea what you mean.
Examples of rising, holding, and soaring, from the song I posted earlier
00:58 starting to rise
01:20-01:22 holding the high from the rise
02:16 rising again
02:28-02:42 soaring vocals with held notes carried from the rise
03:20 rising again
03:48-04:42 soaring + held high notes
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@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
02:16 rising again
You mean those strings in the background going a tone higher with each pass? Yep, Truck Driver's Gear Change, AKA the biggest musical cliche in modern music.
If you mean the vocals, then given that you've posted the same part three times... I just guess you like song with choruses?
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@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
02:16 rising again
You mean those strings in the background going a tone higher with each pass? Yep, Truck Driver's Gear Change, AKA the biggest musical cliche in modern music.
If you mean the vocals, then given that you've posted the same part three times... I just guess you like song with choruses?
Yes, I mean the vocals. I am not sure why you are being so confrontational?
You asked for examples of what I meant, and I gave them to you. I am sorry if it offends you that I like music you don't, and I do not care for music you do like.
I don't see any reason for you to be hostile about it, or condescending. I decline to engage with you any further on this subject until you can be civil. Please have a good day.
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@Vaire said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
I am not sure why you are being so confrontational?
I'm not, I'm honestly confused as to what the hell do you mean. It sounds like... every single chorus ever, I can't hear a damn thing "rising" or "soaring" in the vocals.
I suppose music is subjective, but it's hard to have a meaningful discussion without actually defining the terms we're using.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Say what you will about Babymetal, but...:
I can't hear a damn thing "rising" or "soaring" in the vocals