Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router
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@FrostCat said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
I'm, uh, asking for a friend.
There! Right there! There's the lie, we know for a tract @FrostCat has no friends!
This is it, boys, we're set for a conviction now!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
There's the lie, we know for a tract @FrostCat has no friends!
Slander! Everyone knows @blakeyrat and I are thick as thieves.
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@FrostCat said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
Slander! Everyone knows @blakeyrat and I are thick as thieves.
Hmm... I would agree somewhat on the thick part, maybe even the thieves part, but the analogy falls apart when putting them together. ;)
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@blakeyrat Maybe it's designed for the crappy cable modem/routers that Comcast and the like give you. Getting a better one will often lead to the fun conversation of "Sorry, must be your modem" when there's an outage or a cable cut somewhere.
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@theBread said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
Getting a better one will often lead to the fun conversation of "Sorry, must be your modem" when there's an outage or a cable cut somewhere.
Followed by them wanting to sell you a $150 replacement. I hated being on the company side of calls when that happened.
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@FrostCat said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
@accalia said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
those cable modems that run fine for a couple of days and then start acting weird
I admit to never having seen one that bad.
We are now on it's newer slightly less shitty brother.
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@FrostCat said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
most cable-company-provided routers
Also assuming that you're allowed to replace it. I know of some cable companies (I'm fortunate not to be with one myself) that won't let you replace theirs at all.......
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@Erufael said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
this is all we could get for internet where I live.
That's terribly unfortunate...... I'm sorry for your loss.......
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@sloosecannon Thank you. I blame all the ISPs for this failure.
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@blakeyrat My crappy SOHO WAP already does that:
We need to ship this fucker but nobody can track down the intermittent memory leak.
Turn it into a feature.
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@flabdablet
Did you hack my router to take that screenshot?
:shifty-eyes:
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@flabdablet said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
@blakeyrat My crappy SOHO WAP already does that:
We need to ship this fucker but nobody can track down the intermittent memory leak.
Turn it into a feature.Router firmware by Discourse?
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@FrostCat said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
Get some red paint. Draw a circle around it.
If the hole is difficult to see, it’s probably because the material around it is black. If so, it’d be better to use white paint, because red tends to cover very poorly and in any case, the contrast between red and black isn’t great.
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@Polygeekery said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
[wtf] is the point of it.
The Nest smoke detector? It's got a glowing light to tell you when the battery's low instead of an earsplitting screech, and it apparently has some smart firmware that can tell steam and cooking apart from a real fire, plus it can be silenced from your phone. It's not the most revolutionary thing ever, but it seems to be some real advancement in a field that honestly hasn't changed a whit in decades.
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@Yamikuronue said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
It's got a glowing light to tell you when the battery's low instead of an earsplitting screech
Except in the event of your smoke alarm battery dying - the screech is surely preferred? It's pretty difficult to ignore.
@Yamikuronue said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
some smart firmware that can tell steam and cooking apart from a real fire,
I'm not trusting the decision on whether my house is on fire to some piece of relatively immature software, versus a piece of hardware which has been around for decades.
@Yamikuronue said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
it seems to be some real advancement in a field that honestly hasn't changed a whit in decades.
It doesn't really need to advance IMO.
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@Adynathos said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
In case a new previously unknown type of smoke appears or PI changes its value. Good to be safe against that.
IoT devices tend to get security holes. Updateable firmware allows them to be patched before a hacker sets you smoke alarm to go off every night at 3AM or something. Admittedly this is arguably more a reason not to have a smoke alarm be "smart" in the first place than to have it able to be updated, but if it has to be then there should be some update mechanism
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@loopback0 said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
I'm not trusting the decision on whether my house is on fire to some piece of relatively immature software, versus a piece of hardware which has been around for decades.
I'd rather not trust a dodgy piece of hardware that can't tell the difference between cooking bacon and the house being on fire, thanks.
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@Yamikuronue said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
I'd rather not trust a dodgy piece of hardware that can't tell the difference between cooking bacon and the house being on fire, thanks.
I dunno, when it comes to emptying my house because there might be a fire I prefer the idea of false positives to false negatives. Within reason, of course.
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@Jaloopa The thing is, the shitty ones I've had in past apartments have essentially trained us to ignore the thing and/or disconnect it before cooking, often forgetting to reconnect it afterward.
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@Yamikuronue how does the Nest tell the difference between, say, cooking a steak in smoking hot oil and something actually on fire?
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@Yamikuronue said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
can't tell the difference between cooking bacon and the house being on fire
If your fire alarm's going off when you're cooking bacon, it sounds like either the cooker's extractor fan isn't on/working, or the oven needs cleaning. Or you cook bacon on one of them George Foreman grills, where all the fat runs off before it gets a chance to burn.
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@Jaloopa Dunno, but I like the idea of improving the detection, was my point.
Looking at the docs, I guess it starts speaking something like "Warning, I detect a small amount of smoke." and lets you use your phone to say "that's fine, I'm cooking is all". Then as the amount of smoke ratchets up, it becomes un-overridable and loud.
ETA: from the promo materials:
Ionization alarms use radiation to detect fast-flaming fires. Photoelectric alarms are better at seeing smoldering fires. The Split-Spectrum Sensor looks for both. Instead of radiation, it uses a 450nm wavelength of light to detect the tiny particles created by fast fires. It also uses a second, 880nm infrared wavelength to look for the larger particles created by smoldering fires. It's the first sensor in a home alarm to use two sources of light to get a more accurate picture of the fire.
Nest Protect is the first alarm to use both a humidity sensor and an advanced algorithm to cut false alarms from steam by 50%.
For example, if there’s an emergency in the bedroom, all the Nest Protects in your home will tell you that there’s smoke or carbon monoxide in the bedroom. You will now be alerted to an alarm in your kids’ room upstairs even if you’re in the kitchen downstairs.
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@Jaloopa said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
IoT devices tend to get security holes. Updateable firmware allows them to be patched
Remotely updateable firmware is a very nice security hole, I heard you can hack cars with that.
If anything, security is another reason against connecting the sensors with WIFI.
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@Yamikuronue said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
the promo materials
The Nest website shows the thing in the middle of the wall. Not, you know, the ceiling (or very high up the wall).
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@loopback0 Some of them do. Some of them show it on the ceiling, and the promo copy literally says "It's on your ceiling"
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@Yamikuronue said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
I'd rather not trust a dodgy piece of hardware that can't tell the difference between cooking bacon and the house being on fire, thanks.
I don't mind false positives that occur when I'm in my kitchen cooking toast.
I do mind false negatives that burn my house down when I'm asleep.
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@FrostCat said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
to the Wirecutter's "best router" article, which right now--I just looked--is $109 on Amazon.
I own the archer c7 (v2) had to restart it yesterday because of lost connectivity.
To be fair it was the first time in months, but it does happen..
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@loopback0 said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
Except in the event of your smoke alarm battery dying - the screech is surely preferred? It's pretty difficult to ignore.
In theory, a smart fire alarm would be able to detect the battery voltage and know it's getting low long before it's in any actual danger of dying, so could light the light and give you maybe weeks of warning (making wild guesses about how long the battery lasts, of course.)
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@Jaloopa said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
I prefer the idea of false positives to false negatives. Within reason, of course.
Glad you added the 'within reason'. I've lived in places where you simply couldn't cook some kinds of food because you'd be guaranteed to set off the detector.
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@flabdablet said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
I don't mind false positives that occur when I'm in my kitchen cooking toast.
Do you start minding them if you cook toast every day, and get a false positive every time?
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@swayde said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
I own the archer c7 (v2) had to restart it yesterday because of lost connectivity.
To be fair it was the first time in months, but it does happen..Well, nobody said it was perfect, just, supposedly, the all-around "best".
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@flabdablet said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
We need to ship this fucker but nobody can track down the intermittent memory leak.
Turn it into a feature.I worked for a company like that once... (internet on a phone. no, not an internet phone - basically a browser in the phone, plus apps [winCE]) So a feature to reboot at 3am (as long as the phone wasn't in use) was added.
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@FrostCat said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
In theory, a smart fire alarm would be able to detect the battery voltage and know it's getting low long before it's in any actual danger of dying, so could light the light and give you maybe weeks of warning (making wild guesses about how long the battery lasts, of course.)
But how often do you look up at the smoke detector on your ceiling? What are the odds you'd actually notice that light?
@FrostCat said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
@flabdablet said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
I don't mind false positives that occur when I'm in my kitchen cooking toast.
Do you start minding them if you cook toast every day, and get a false positive every time?
SOunds like you need to clean your toaster. Or get a new one.
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@abarker said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
But how often do you look up at the smoke detector on your ceiling?
In my apartment, it's actually on the wall, just out of arm's reach, in the hall outside the kitchen, so I see it fairly regularly. I can get to it much easier than the last place I lived, where it was on a 9' ceiling, and I needed a ladder to get to it.
But we're talking about a smart device, right? It should be able to text me that the battery's getting lowish. It might even be possible to estimate how long before it dies.
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@abarker said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
SOunds like you need to clean your toaster. Or get a new one.
Not me, I was just asking. In my case, it's pretty much anything that creates any smoke, because the airflow in the apartment is horrible, and I don't think the hood "vent" actually goes outside.
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@abarker said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
But how often do you look up at the smoke detector on your ceiling? What are the odds you'd actually notice that light?
If it's a super-bright LED, and it's blinking, you'd have a pretty hard time not noticing. Unless it's in a closet where you never go, or something, in which case it's also probably not doing you much good in there.
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@abarker said in Instead of buying a quality router for $60, buy this special plug that reboots your shitty router:
What are the odds you'd actually notice that light?
Dunno. It seems to only come on when you turn off the lights, according to the docs, so it's more noticeable. But then, humans also rarely look up.