Loud motorcycles dying?
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@RaceProUK Haha it is done one of two ways
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Drive down 100 yards, take a U-turn come back where you started and stop. Shift up and down while you're at this.
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Pay the guy responsible some money and you don't even have to turn up for the test. The Driving license gets delivered to your house.
Edit : It looks so farfetched but I swear this is not even slightly embellished for comic effect.
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@Magus Congratulations. You found a way to make Babymetal sound good !
I'm sure the guy filming this video was wearing ear-plugs
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@TimeBandit And opaque glasses; that guy dances like he sings.
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@loopback0 said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
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@FrostCat said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
@Vaire said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
I think that gets me out of the "mainstream loser" category, at least in the US
Yeah, it puts you in the non-mainstream loser category.
What's that comma doing there?
Annoying you, I guess?
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@blakeyrat said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
@fbmac said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
One of them argued me that was for safety, to make sure the cars will hear him.
You didn't provide an opinion on this, but for what it's worth there's actually ZERO evidence that there's any safety benefit to this at all.
Nah; what these guys are after is attention. They want people to look at them and pay attention to them. And we're hard-wired by our instincts to look at things that suddenly make loud noises, so they get "attention" that way.
I overheard a motorcycle salesman tell a customer, "When you open the throttle, they'll (other cars) hear you and get out of your way."
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@tharpa repeated in Loud motorcycles dying? something someone else said:
"When you open the throttle, they'll (other cars) hear you and get out of your way."
To which my response would be "Yeah right will I fuck. Now sod off and stop being a big manchild."
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I suspect the street outside my home has been turned into illegal racer track because everynight since 2 years ago, there are more and more racercars that generates very load noise running there... usually up to 2 - 3 a.m. :(
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@cheong Join them maybe ? Have fun ?!?!
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@stillwater Pay attention kids, this is what is known as "bad advice." Mmmkay?
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@cheong said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
I suspect the street outside my home has been turned into illegal racer track because everynight since 2 years ago, there are more and more racercars that generates very load noise running there... usually up to 2 - 3 a.m. :(
The main drag in my city is used for motorcycle racing almost every single night in the summers. I live about half a mile away and it's loud enough to wake me up if my bedroom windows are open. And I've never heard of our police pulling these goons over.
It does make me nervous on the rare occasion that I'm out late and on my motorcycle. Knowing my luck, they'll actually be pulling bikes over, but pull me over instead of the racers and refuse to believe me when I explain that my 20-horsepower street-legal dirt bike is basically incapable of breaking the speed limit on that road.
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@cheong get a few bags of ready-mix cement and build a speed bump some night shortly after they all leave?
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@anotherusername said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
@cheong get a few bags of ready-mix cement and build a speed bump some night shortly after they all leave?
Too bad you cannot build custom objects on public road yourself in the city.
And btw, the street I'm living is part of one of tracks of the driving license examination.
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@cheong said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
everynight since 2 years ago, there are more and more racercars that generates very load noise running there... usually up to 2 - 3 a.m.
You should do what the dadin Malcolm In The Middle did in that one episode where that happened--he built a speed bump in the street.
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@cheong Actually, you can. The trick is not getting caught doing it.
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@tufty I thought that was implied when I said "at night".
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@Vaire I get the need to be loud. But one of the cardinal rules of life is don't screw with the people you live next to and they hopefully won't do the same.... It needs a quiet switch that you can disable on command so you don't piss off the whole neighborhood. If we can put a man on the moon why can't we install a quiet switch.
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@anotherusername said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
I thought that was implied when I said "at night".
A better approach would be to put on a high-visibility vest and hard hat, borrow some road cones, then do it in the middle of the day. Everyone will assume that you've got all the permissions and are doing it officially, and will leave you alone.
Nobody more invisible on a road than a construction worker.
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@dkf said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
Nobody more invisible on a road than a construction worker.
That’s only going to work if you do it where nobody knows who you are. In a big city, that probably means you can still do it right outside your own front door, though.
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@Gurth said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
That’s only going to work if you do it where nobody knows who you are.
You'd think so, but people most places just see “workman” and their brain switches off.
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@Groaner said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
Those guys have balls of steel.
I dunno what their balls are made of but I've once seen the pink squishy bits of which their brains were made, splattered over the road.
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@darth_llama said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
If we can put a man on the moon why can't we install a quiet switch.
I don't think there's really a noise problem on the moon.
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@darth_llama said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
If we can put a man on the moon why can't we install a quiet switch.
You can buy a quiet switch on eBay for $90.
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@Jaime is my hero.
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@boomzilla said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
I don't think there's really a noise problem on the moon.
You've never been to a Clanger rave, obviously
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@Jaloopa said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
You've never been to a Clanger rave, obviously
Not on purpose, I'm sure.
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So, been thinking about this a bit.
There's a significant body of research showing that, although annoying, exhausts in general that are louder than ambient traffic noise provide a localisation hint for pedestrians. So a loud exhaust might well alert pedestrians who were otherwise unaware of or had misjudged the speed / stopping distance / manoeuvrability of a motorcycle to the fact that stepping out into the street might prove hazardous to their health. It's not the general intent of "loud pipes save lives", but there's possibly a grain of truth to it.
On the other hand, I can't see motorcycle exhaust noise doing anything much for car drivers. Driving up to work, sound level in my car is between 80dB and 88dB (that's with the radio off, but snow tyres on, at between 50 and 90 km/h on some pretty crappy tarmac). Normally I have the radio on, and loud enough to be able to hear it over the road / wind noise. Your (or my) exhaust is gonna have to be pretty damned loud to register above that, especially coming from behind (where the driver's ears are least sensitive) and through glass. the rider' ears are going to be bleeding before exhaust noise kicks that driver out of his "bubble" at useful distances and normal driving speeds.
That said, every time I've been knocked off my bike (motorbike and pushbike), it's been by drivers who were at a stop, pulling out into traffic, one way or another, without looking or failing to spot that there was a 2 wheeled vehicle bearing down on them. As they are at a standstill, the majority of road noise goes away, but given that they probably have their radio on, and at a level intended to drown out the road / wind noise, so you still need to be making a lot of noise if you want to kick that dumbfuck out of his half-sleep state.
ISTR that 90% of motorcycle accidents happen under 40km/h. that's the speed where even the loudest Hardly Dangerous™ exhausts are going "bop-bop-bop" and not "BWAAAAAAAAAAAARP" anyway.
Also, Harley riders are all poseurs anyway.
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@tufty said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
Also, Harley riders are all poseurs anyway.
Trufax.
I try to keep aware of bikers since I know what it's like on a motorcycle. I'm still frequently surprised by loud exhausts as the bike overtakes me, having not heard it at all as they approached.
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@Jaloopa said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
I'm still frequently surprised by loud exhausts as the bike overtakes me, having not heard it at all as they approached.
That's kind of a result of how the regulations are written. Exhaust noise is usually regulated as measured from the side and at part throttle. The techniques that are used to meet those regulations often end up with exhaust systems that are very loud from directly behind and at full throttle. The side-to-rear noise level transition can be quite drastic.
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I want to own an older Harley. One of the things I like is that it was a big fuck you to everyone else.
They should market for that tbh.
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@lucas1 I hope you don't mean a Harley made when AMF owned them (1969-1981). The were genuinely bad motorcycles in that era.
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@tufty said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
It's not the general intent of "loud pipes save lives", but there's possibly a grain of truth to it.
Except the noise isn't thrown forward where problematic pedestrians are, but rather mostly backwards. The people on foot will know they've been knocked down by a bike afterwards, but that's not really a winning position for anyone.
Driving up to work, sound level in my car is between 80dB and 88dB
Sounds like the sound-deadening insulation in that car isn't working any more.
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Thinking of getting a girly sportster 800 they made in late 2000s.
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@dkf The fact that motorcycles emit more noise rearward does not imply they are silent from the front.
(80-88dB) Sounds like the sound-deadening insulation in that car isn't working any more.
No, sounds like I have a roof rack, snow tyres, and drive up very rough roads.
This is the EU label from my tyres - note it reckons 71dB of tyre noise, 7.5m from the vehicle at a height of 1.2m, with the vehicle rolling at 80km/h with the engine off (that's the testing criteria).
https://dc602r66yb2n9.cloudfront.net/pub/web/images/eu_labels/T429673.png
Also note from here : http://www.hearnet.com/at_risk/risk_trivia.shtml
"City traffic from inside a car" - 85dB
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@Jaime said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
The were genuinely bad motorcycles in that era.
I had an uncle who used to ride motorcycles, and he liked to say that on a Harley, you shouldn’t go anywhere without a set of tools.
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@Gurth said in Loud motorcycles dying?:
on a Harley, you shouldn’t go anywhere without a set of tools
Awwww, be nice.
The preferred terminology is "the other members of a Harley-Davidson Owner's Club".