Because there's so much wrong with iTunes
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The newest version is having trouble installing on my PC, so I tried to help it out a little...
You had one job, error message. Really just one job. And you identified, twice, by name, the service you tried to start, "Apple Mobile Device Service", which doesn't exist by that name.
[spoiler]Probably because the correct service is called "Apple Mobile Device", and/or because it already appears to be running.[/spoiler]
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Clicking "Ignore" allowed it to successfully install, but now it won't run:
Sigh. You'd think an installer wouldn't shart all over if a previous version was already installed and active, but you'd be wrong.
edit: it's possible the difficulty was because I was overwriting x86 iTunes with x64 iTunes, but still... that's the installer the website gave me.
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One final update: Uninstall and reinstall didn't work (same thing happened again).
Finally I opened the iTunes Setup file in 7-Zip, extracted all of the packages, manually ran the installers for Apple Application Support (32-bit and 64-bit) and Apple Mobile Device Support, and then ran the setup one last time and chose Repair.
Now TRWTF: I get the pleasure of having to use iTunes.
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I admire the effort you went through, but question your sanity as there are so many better alternatives…
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Not if you have an iPhone.
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@anotherusername said:
iPhone
@RaceProUK said:there are so many better alternatives
D(F)QAFT
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IIRC you can sync your music and things with MediaMonkey. If you've been buying stuff on iTunes then you probably need the software (and are TRWTF) but there seem to be alternatives for most other things it does
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You buy locked devices, you deal with the manufacturer's software ¯\(ツ)/¯
Just be happy Apple lets you connect it to a non-Apple device.
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At the time when I bought it, I was mainly interested in: DPI, camera on both sides of the body, average quality of particular apps and how well they're updated (Google Maps, Facebook, games, etc), and price to buy an unlocked, no-contract phone.
I've used Google Maps on Android phones and it was slow (might have just been the phone) and if the app gets restarted for any reason while giving directions it tended to lose its route (which happens very rarely in the iOS version).
IIRC you can sync your music and things with MediaMonkey.
You still need to have Apple's iTunes and QuickTime drivers installed.
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I've used Google Maps on Android phones and it was slow (might have just been the phone) and if the app gets restarted for any reason while giving directions it tended to lose its route (which happens very rarely in the iOS version).
Hmm, sounds like that was a pretty crappy device/old version. Never had that problem on anything relatively modern.
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It was last week, and I'm comparing it to the same app running on an iPhone 4. I have no idea whether the app was the latest version because it wasn't my phone and I'd expect it to update apps automatically or at least nag when new versions come out.
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camera on both sides of the body
This is pretty much standard on Android as well nowadays.
Google Maps
That's going to be a function of the phone speed, yeah. The cheapest androids are underpowered.
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I can be cheap to a fault sometimes. In hindsight I should've paid a little more and got the iPhone 4S instead.
It was a few years ago, and the feature set of the iPhone 4 is still pretty competitive with similarly-priced phones - and I mean similar to what I originally paid, not what it's selling for now. So that should say something for it. But I have been thinking more lately about upgrading to something a little bit faster and having more memory.
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If Apple's software on Windows didn't make me cringe and wish I wasn't using it, I might be slightly more inclined to buy something from them.
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@anotherusername said:
camera on both sides of the body
This is pretty much standard on Android as well nowadays.
Not exactly rare in WinPhone land either ;)
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Not if you have an iPhone.
Deciding to simply not play music on the go is still a better alternative than resorting to iTunes.
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@Yamikuronue said:
@anotherusername said:
camera on both sides of the body
This is pretty much standard on Android as well nowadays.
Not exactly rare in WinPhone land either ;)
Or in WinMob land.
What's that 2006? No, you can't use the phone! I'm talking to Discourse right now. No, you can't call them!!
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Why are you trying to install iTunes? If you succeed at that, your computer will have iTunes on it...
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And you identified, twice, by name, the service you tried to start, "Apple Mobile Device Service", which doesn't exist by that name.
TIL you could put the display name in quotes instead of having to use the service name.
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Why would you install iTunes on Windows? Just install it on your phone or whatever. Skip the Apple nagware that installs with iTunes.
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Is iTunes still doing that shit where every time it updates it tries to sneak an installl of Safari onto your PC? That was the last straw for me.
Also fuck Safari. Fuck it in the ear. Fuck it in every bodily orifice it may have. I do not care for it, sir! I do not care for it all!
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Didn't they discontinue Safari for Windows before the end of XP?
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XP has ended?
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I still hear of Safari.
I murdered iTunes when its installer/updater started crashing on boot and broke a few other applications on my desktop, and never looked back.'s utter shit, written by a team who took a reasonably good UI and destroyed it utterly.
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Does anyone actually know a decent free alternative that allows you to transfer music from Windows to an IPhone ?
ITunes sucks and the alternatives I've found so far suck nearly just as bad.
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I don't buy iPhones specifically because they require the use of iTunes.
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Good luck finding XP any more. It's not even on MSDN, presumably to stop businesses from installing it on new PCs.
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Good luck finding XP any more.
I'm sure the entire country of China could provide you with installation media.
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Good luck finding XP any more. It's not even on MSDN, presumably to stop businesses from installing it on new PCs.
There's "extended support" for it until 2019, isn't there? For businesses which still haven't made it to the fifth stage of the grieving process...
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I have two unopened OEM copies on my bookshelf right now.
I should really toss those.
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Or use the discs as coasters
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There's "extended support" for it until 2019, isn't there? For businesses which still haven't made it to the fifth stage of the grieving process...
The end of "extended support" was April 8, 2014. If you want security patches for XP after that point, you have to pay through the nose for it1.
1Except for the handful of patches Microsoft released for XP after that date. Surprise!
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If you want security patches for XP after that point, you have to pay through the nose for it.
Yeah, I mean the 'super secret double extended support' that you have to pay through the nose for...
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Why would you install iTunes on Windows? Just install it on your phone or whatever. Skip the Apple nagware that installs with iTunes.
Backup/restore for one thing. Not that it helped me out any when my phone crashed hard recently. Apparently sometimes, if you haven't told iTunes to encrypt your backups, it encrypts them anyway without telling you what password it used. But that's a whole different rant.
Does anyone actually know a decent free alternative that allows you to transfer music from Windows to an IPhone ?
Not any that don't require you to install iTunes for Apple's drivers so that the third-party app can actually communicate with an iPhone.
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That's what Ubuntu 12.10 disks are for >.>
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It's not even on MSDN, presumably to stop businesses from installing it on new PCs.
Anyone who didn't get MSDN in the last year or whatever probably has it on older media, though.
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Yeah, I mean the 'super secret double extended support' that you have to pay through the nose for...
Isn't there a registry edit, though, that makes your computer think you have, so you can still get those updates?
Not that I care. Anyone still on XP should have their computer taken away and replaced with an abacus.
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Well, there's another year or so of support for XPe, and it's possible to convince normal XP that it's the Embedded version.
(With a filesystem)
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Or use the discs as coasters
I've still got a set of AOL disks that I use to keep flowerpots off the tablecloth.
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I have an XP machine in my garage.
I think I'm going to try and see what happens if you literally light a computer on fire while it's running. Or maybe ventilate it with a machine gun. While running.
Not inside the garage. Outside.
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what happens if you literally light a computer on fire while it's running.
It gets hot and stops running?
But if you decide to do it, make a video, kthxbai.
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lp0 on fire
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what happens if you literally light a computer on fire while it's running.
KABOOM!
Alright, probably not. But it'd be cool if it did.
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Well, what do you know? Someone's already done it, because of course they have...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19lbMySUzNY
Probably should've replied to @Weng, welp, can't do anything about that now...