Angular.js is dead, so let's talk about everything else
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Or you write directly to the file, but then the file may be corrupted if the writing application crashes.
You can also corrupt the file if you run out of disk space while writing over it - just because the file size was X, it doesn't mean you can actually overwrite X bytes in it if the volume is nearly full.
@Gaska said:Data isn't physically copied over, but the file entry (ie. file identity) is brand neew, as opposed to modern filesystems.
No, it isn't - only (part of) the metadata location changes, everything else stays the same.
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Sure it was DOS and not something mainframe or similar?
Might have been a console Windows application - I've seen several programs that started as DOS programs, and were then simply ported to Windows by keeping them running in console.
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The set of documents of length c of characters from finite set S is finite. However, the set of all documents of finite length, made up of characters from set S, is countably infinite.
Yes. But again, for any finite length
c(or even, by extension, for any finite length up toc), this holds. We can say that the necessary condition to declare the cure for cancer as "existing" is for it to be possible to write it down in some form of encoding, we can therefore set an upper bound forcas number of elementary particles in the universe.
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No, it isn't - only (part of) the metadata location changes, everything else stays the same.
AFAIK everything except file physical location is moved - name, attributes, access date etc.
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However, the set of all documents of finite length, made up of characters from set S, is countably infinite.
That's trivially demonstrable by exhibiting a Gödel numbering. The easiest way of doing that is to just reinterpret the document in your favourite encoding on a computer as a single (very large) integer. OK, that might not be the most efficient encoding, but it's easy to conceive of. Since the Gödel numbering is a bijection between the set of integers and the set of all possible finite documents, you've demonstrated that the set of finite document is countably-infinite.
It's the set of all infinite documents that is much harder. I believe it's still an unsolved problem whether the number of infinite documents (using a finite alphabet) i.e., א1, is the same as the number of real numbers between 0 and 1. Intuitively it looks like it's true, but proving the continuum hypothesis to be either true or false has been one of these weird edges of mathematics that has proved to be really resistant to solution. I guess we don't understand set theory quite as much as we all hope.
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Did someone say angler fish?
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Yeah, and a countably infinite number of monkeys in infinite time (taking positive finite time to produce a letter each) are only going to produce a countably infinite number of potential proofs. I don't think whether those proofs are finite or (countably) infinite matters.
I'm too lazy to back up my claims.
If we know the anti-cancer paper exists, and have an upper bound on its length, then the chance the monkeys will hit it eventually is 1.
If we know the anti-cancer paper exists, and we know it is finite, but do not have an upper bound, then I'm not sure what the chance is the monkeys will hit it eventually, but I expect it to be nonzero.
If do not know whether the anti-cancer paper exists, or if it may be of infinite length, then the set of potential papers is uncountably infinite, and the chance our monkeys will hit it eventually is 0.
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There's also the whole, "actual paying customers of Microsoft aren't asking for this shit, only grumpy Slashdot-posting MS-haters who pirate their products while pretending to use Linux."
I can guarantee, guarantee, that XP Mode existed in 64-bit Windows 7 specifically because some large client of Microsoft's (a.k.a. actual paying customers) desired it. And I can practically guarantee it's not in Windows 8 because all the paying companies who previously desired it had updated their shit and no longer do.
More likely it's not in Windows 8 because enough people within Microsoft knew that no business anywhere was ever going to buy Windows 8.
And certainly no large client would even consider it.Not due to the immense training costs of the split-personality Windows 8 UI, simply because these businesses had only just begun moving to Windows 7 at the time, and a second change of OS would be impossible to justify that quickly.
Even now Windows 8.1 has a minuscule penetration into business computing - Surface Pro 1/2/3 is about it.
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If you have countably infinite monkeys and infinite time, you USE THE MONKEYS FOR CANCER DRUG RESEARCH.
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USE THE MONKEYS FOR CANCER DRUG RESEARCH.
I bet we can do that simultaneous ... just divide the infinite amount of monkeys in infinite groups + 1 control group and give them a pill every time it compiles successfully. Only pay attention that we keep the one we use for infectious diseases separated from the main population.
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give them a pill every time it compiles successfully.
But that's not how pharmaceutics work...I hope you have infinite piles of money.
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I hope you have infinite piles of money.
infinite number of monkeys in infinite time
Given these two constrains I'm sure we can work something out get us near-infinite money
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I believe it's still an unsolved problem whether the number of infinite documents (using a finite alphabet) i.e., א1, is the same as the number of real numbers between 0 and 1.
Considering that every real number between 0 and 1 is directly representable as an infinite document using a finite alphabet (i.e. a string of ℵ0 digits), and that this can be done in any base (meaning that the size of the particular finite alphabet you choose is irrelevant), I'm not sure the continuum hypothesis (which is indeed an unsolved problem) is the problem you seem to be saying that it is.
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And isn't there something about how with infinite monkeys and infinite time anything with a non-zero chance WILL happen? I think given infinite monkeys and infinite time there's a non-zero chance that all the monkeys would die before producing the anti-cancer paper.
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@Jaloopa said:
the Beatles
QFT. Most overrated band ever.No, Nickleback. And don't try to say that no one likes them because they've been a thing for almost 20 goddamned years. The Beatles only lasted 10.
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Neither are Romanians. Doesn't matter for Tom Fox News.
Romania is the place where gymnasts come from, right?
is this reference too old for most TDWTFers?
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No, Nickleback. And don't try to say that no one likes them because they've been a thing for almost 20 goddamned years. The Beatles only lasted 10.
At least they get enough criticism to kinda balance it out. Say you don't like the Beatles, and everybody starts bringing out tar and feathers.
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If we know the anti-cancer paper exists, and have an upper bound on its length, then the chance the monkeys will hit it eventually is 1.
If it exists, we should just, like, read it instead of waiting for the fucking monkeys.
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Say you don't like the Beatles
eeh. i mean their stuff is okay, and i do enjoy it when it comes on the radio, but.... well it's just not my thing. not unless i'm in a really weird mood.
now Queen, Queen is always a good choice.
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Say you don't like the Beatles, and everybody starts bringing out tar and feathers.
Not everyone. There are plenty of people who will agree with you, but you'll only notice your opponents. It's like when people say all the commenters on /. are socialist/libertarian/pro-Windows/Linux/OSX.
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Nickleback... for almost 20 goddamned years. The Beatles only lasted 10.
This makes me sad. I've only ever heard one Nickelback song. How are they still popular?
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I've only ever heard one Nickelback song. How are they still popular?
Some people really like that song, I guess.
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eeh. i mean their stuff is okay, and i do enjoy it when it comes on the radio
This is fifty year old music. How much music from the early sixties could you even say "it's okay" about? The Beatles probably wouldn't be a great band if they came out today, but during their time they invented a lot of what we now take for granted.
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This makes me sad. I've only ever heard one Nickelback song. How are they still popular?
Canadians.
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Canadians.
I'm surprised they haven't been edged out by Rush, Celine Dion, or the Tragically Hip...
...or William Shatner....
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The Beatles probably wouldn't be a great band if they came out today
Might still be; their music is a lot more varied than most bands' output seems to be. That might be due to the disfunctionality of the music business though.
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I've only ever heard one Nickelback song.
There only is one Nickelback song, they've just recorded it under like 40 different names.
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There only is one Nickelback song, they've just recorded it under like 40 different names.
The more I listen to a lot of the same bands, the more that this seems true. Most bands have a specific sound to them. It doesn't matter if it's the Beatles, Motorhead, Black Sabbath, The Eagles, or Nickelback, you could usually recognize them quickly.
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It's almost like a lot of music has a set number of rhythms/timings!
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It's almost like that.
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I'm not sure the continuum hypothesis (which is indeed an unsolved problem) is the problem you seem to be saying that it is.
You are correct. The continuum hypothesis is that there is no other infinite cardinality in between the cardinality of the integers (ℵ0) and the cardinality of the reals (2ℵ0). The generalised continuum hypothesis is that for any infinite cardinal k there is no infinite cardinal between k and 2k. Furthermore, it's not so much an unsolved problem as one that's been shown to be independent of ZFC (the usual axioms of mathematics). In other words, you can construct a system using ZFC and GCH, or you can construct one with ZFC and the negation of the continuum hypothesis, and both are consistent.Going back to the subject of running 16-bit applications, etc., at home I have mainly Win 7 machines which I've installed as 32-bit precisely because we (i.e. me and my kids) have a stack of old games that we still want to play. (It's only home edition so no XP mode available.) I also have a laptop running Win 8 64-bit. What would you recommend as the best way to get 16-bit Win 3.x games running on it?
I mean, obviously some sort of virtualisation setup is indicated, but I don't know the available software well enough, so I'm looking for recommendations here. At the moment it's in the odd state of being able to play really old DOS games (thanks to DOSBox, of course), and newer 32-bit ones, but not the ones in between. Unfortunately some of my favourites (and my kids' favourites) fall into that gap.
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Windows 98SE can be made to run very nicely in VirtualBox (on either a 32 or 64 bit host OS) and that's what I'll generally use to make a compatible environment for elderly software. I am not aware of any 3.x era stuff that won't run on 98SE.
You don't get hardware GPU support because VirtualBox doesn't have guest drivers available for 98SE, but today's CPUs are generally fast enough compared to 98SE-era GPUs that it doesn't matter much. Microsoft's own virtualization stuff might support Win98 better; I've not played with it so I don't know.
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I also have a laptop running Win 8 64-bit. What would you recommend as the best way to get 16-bit Win 3.x games running on it?
Windows 3.1 runs fine in DOSBox.
